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    TV's Awful Decline

    in General TV

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    5 hours ago, MediaZone4K said:

    You are right, things change and (get off my lawn ahead) it sucks that that media change is happening in my lifetime.

     

    BUT, most people (across several bubbles that I've spoken with ) agree TV sucks now...and subjective statement ahead: the change has largely not been for the better.

     

    Viewing habits will evolve, change is a fact of life. I love streaming. The problem is content saturation and de-evolution. 

     

    Watered down recycled ideas, endless reboots instead of original ideas, heavy handed political virtue signaling in shows, excessively graphic cursing and sex scenes.

     

    I love the traditional tv model, I'm open to streaming, let's just make sure what we're doibg now isn't crappier than what we had.

    I'm a traditional TV lover and I also have a few of the streamers in my house.

    4 hours ago, Abraham J. Simpson said:

    Every generation seems to lament what those newfangled whippersnappers like. Bring back Milton Berle and Ed Sullivan. What the heck are music videos? Who wants to watch kids dance for an hour?

     

    What hasn’t changed is the audience dictates the content. What people reject goes away.
     

    And while sequels/reboots/rehashes of existing IP are by no means anything new in TV, they seem to get a disproportionate share of “there are no original ideas” when in fact there are many. Of course audiences familiar with whatever brand may gravitate toward checking it out; we’re human and like positive memories. If people stick around and enjoy the show on its own merits, great. But there’s plenty of original

    ideas and creative twists on older ones (Stranger Things and Wednesday from Netflix come to mind as one example of each).

     

    And all kinds of content from music to movies to TV has borrowed, some more blatantly than others, from

    what came before.
     

    Much of the original content from basic cable migrated to streaming as the audience did. Makes sense; follow the money. And it also follows that we’d see a big push early on for original content to give each platform an identity and a reason to pay up. That dust will settle and the investments will become more targeted into what proves to be working.

     

    The broadcast model is dying. It’s not dead and won’t be for a while, but it’s on the way. It’s going to need to rely on a changing mix of programs to wring some remaining life out of it, and rely on streaming to pick up some of the lost audience. For now, it’s sustainable with adjustments. 

    How much money would you say in the ballpark what the broadcast model is making compared to the first decade or so of it's existence? It's all relative numbers anyway.

    Giant Octopus 2003 work samples

    in Graphics

    Posted

    29 minutes ago, ttvn2000 said:


    It’s all about efficiency these days.  Flat renders faster and is scalable across multiple stations in a group.  But I agree - I miss the distinctive branding you’d see across stations.

    I was sort of getting at the subtle "Your flashy CGI graphics are cluttered crap and European style rules" crowd. Wanting everything to be like Europe is becoming almost overrated (this is addressed to American TV graphics specifically as I know that there are many Europeans on here too). Not saying it can't go too far the other way either, like WSVN/WHDH in the 90s and early 00s with their over-the-top tabloid format.

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    TV's Awful Decline

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    On 4/24/2023 at 1:24 PM, DirtyHarry said:

    @MediaZone4K - local news is okay, but the national news media has become Pravda for the Deep State. Anything on the national level is not to be trusted anymore. All it is is talking points fed to the media from political flacks. 

     

    The funny one is Hunter Biden, who is actually involved in illegalities, along with his dad, given a pass. But they gleefully go after Trump over and over again and can't find a thing. He may be the cleanest person to ever run for the presidency. Oh and we have that Scooter Libby and Valerie Plame thing. A nothingburger, but they started beating the drums. I have no respect for the national media at all. All these phony scandals have turned me off to all these people.

     

    Scandal against Republicans and throw the book at them for jaywalking, Democrats always get a pass for major violations of the law. I'm not standing up for Republicans -- I hate the DC Republican Party, but that's what I see.

    I will say this...both and all sides have their issues.

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    TV's Awful Decline

    in General TV

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    On 1/7/2023 at 2:21 PM, DirtyHarry said:

     

    Two things screwed everything up: 1) the death of all the vaudeville people; 2) Norman Lear.

     

    Before Lear, everything was just entertainment. Norman Lear with all his shows where he tried to make a social statements influenced too many others who seem to want to push their politics on everybody else. (Not to mention that many of us think that Archie Bunker has been partially vindicated after all these years.) 

     

    But more importantly we've lost all those vaudeville people. Those people knew how to tell jokes and entertain and TV and radio reflected that. They're gone and I don't think the people producing TV today have the well-honed skills that those old timers had.

    Well I do agree that a lot of TV and film push the politics of their creators to some degree, like Family Guy is one example. Now, content made just to do little more than shock is about half of what is on TV and film these days. Most shows in the adult animated genre have the same plot/character cliches and social/political statement humor (like inserting "God is just that big monster in the sky" every other week).

     

    I'm not very strict or religious, but it's truth that movies and especially TV is gratuitously "risque" lately.

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    TV's Awful Decline

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    On 1/3/2023 at 6:52 PM, MediaZone4K said:

    As the article suggests, cord cutting isn't the sole issue. Cable networks seem to be clueless that they've abandoned their niches in favor of saturated content: reality shows and sitcom reruns. MTV & VH 1 don't play music videos anymore, TLC lacks educational content in favor of Honey Boo-Boo, and umpteen channels show Friends. Not to mention the original content channels produce seems watered down compared to their old offerings: examples BET, Disney Channel, Nickelodeon, and Cartoon network. Audiences aren't that dumb. Add to that, the heavy handed political messaging in shows. Viewers can tell when something is poorly written or cookie cutter and will turn away.

     

    Broadcast tv is stale, it's current lineup of shows lack imagination compared to scripted streaming offerings.

     

    Finally, we all know the problem with cable news. Sensationalism, hyper partisanship and toxic journalism that seeks to get eyeballs and reactions from viewers, rather than educating and informing them. With these poor choices, it's no wonder audiences are turning away from television. 

    I think a lot of the issues with creative quality is the big element of industry politics being involved.

    On 1/3/2023 at 7:46 PM, MediaZone4K said:

    Rabbit ears analog was way better. I preferred the static over scratching and glitching from digital.

    Yeah. Digital isn't always better in my opinion.

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    Holy Graphics Knockoff Batman!!

    in Graphics

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    On 12/16/2019 at 11:31 AM, kfc513 said:

    Does stolen logos count as knockoffs?

    I'm asking this because KXPI-LD in Pocatello, Idaho stole the logos of FOUR other Fox stations! (KSWB, WNYW, WTTG and WAGA)

    KXPI_Fox_5_logo.thumb.png.a145908ff716c19f4f7c57db557d19e0.png        KXPI_Vertical_Logo.thumb.png.3c32338ef7a1540a0f02006cf0d26887.png

    Well, I guess that is market #161 for you.

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    Out & About

    in General TV

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    Hasn’t WSEE always branded by their call letters though? A god awful CBS eye logo with italicized SEE over the eye comes to mind.

     

    The logos for both stations are now the generic NBC and CBS logos with the plain call letters next to it. Even more bland and worse than it was before.

    Out & About

    in General TV

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    Here's a small TV note: Lilly/SJL's WICU and WSEE in Erie, PA since having produced a joint newscast have also began ID'ing on-air both as simply "WICU" and "WSEE" with no channel number, at least like at the end of syndicated promos and common stuff.

    Discovered composers & publishers of music themes

    in News Music & Voiceovers

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    It's too bad the few clips that are around are the TVArk ones and a few with the camera pointed at a TV. It does sound like a really nice package.

     

    These are some examples from a YouTube page with the aformentioned camera pointed at a TV. The user's titles hint at 1989-90 even though they are from the same feature.

     

    Station ID / Cinema 26 Primetime Open

     

    A couple of movie bumpers and a news tease near the end of this clip

     

    Station ID and Movie Bump on this one

     

    I'd say before 1995--that old '20th Television Fox' is rarely seen on television now.

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