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18 hours ago, JCB4TV said:
Where's your source, which stations are set to lose their choppers?
For my source: I’ll say my lack of citing a “source” should speak for who my source is.
As for which specific stations are losing them… Again, I’ll just say it will be most of them. You’ll be able to count on one hand how many stations still have a chopper after this is over… and you’ll have fingers leftover too.
Let’s let my vagueness over sharing anymore specific details speak back to my answer to the first question.
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Look for most Nexstar stations that still have them to lose their choppers very soon. You heard it here first.
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On 10/31/2024 at 4:13 PM, Breaking News said:
Can anyone explain the two largest cities in Texas? Dallas-Ft.Worth #4, but Houston #6. I had to look it up, but Houston's population is bigger than Dallas. Is the Dallas market bigger than Houston because of
Dallas & Ft. Worth together?
Dallas Fort Woth is a bigger metro area by about a million people.
About 8.1 million people call the DFW metro area home.
About 7.1 million people call the Houston Metro area home.
The only reason Houston is the “biggest” city in Texas by population is because it is—quite literally— the “biggest” city in Texas.
Back in the day, before Houston really started growing, the city of Houston annexed as much of the (then undeveloped) land around it as possible. So when developers began to build suburban housing developments in those undeveloped areas—they became part of the city of Houston, rather than becoming a part of a different “suburb” city.
Dallas didn’t do that to the same extent.
When Dallas began to grow, suburbs like Richardson, Garland, Plano, etc. beat the city of Dallas to annexing undeveloped land into their cities.
In total, the City of Houston takes up 665 square miles, with a city population of 2.3. million.
The City of Dallas takes up 340.5 square miles. And has a city population of 1.3 million.
So the city populations area proportionate to the land area each city takes up.
That said, Dallas has far more suburbs than Houston. And also shares a metropolitan region with Fort Worth, another major city with a population nearing one million within its city borders.
ill give you another example.
Oklahoma City is the 20th largest city in America by population.
But it is the 42nd most populous metro area—because it doesn’t have many suburbs. It’s basically just Oklahoma City and a few suburbs.
tldr: DFW contains more suburbs than the Houston metro, and has a bigger metro population because of this.
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On 9/20/2024 at 9:06 AM, MediaZone4K said:
What confuses me is that the Miami metro is over 6 million people and Tampa is just over 3 million. I guess that goes back to the number of persons per household.
What did surprise me was just how massive that 3 county coverage area is. The top of Broward County (Deerfield Beach) to the bottom of Monroe (Key West) is a 4.5-hour drive, 210 miles. Not to mention Miami stations will go into Palm Beach County if news permits, such as the Trump assassination attempt.
It’s very simple: The reason the Miami DMA doesn’t match the Miami metro area’s population rank is because the Miami metro area is essentially split into two different DMAs: the Miami DMA and the West Palm Beach DMA.
The West Palm Beach area is included in the Miami Metro area’s 6 million+ population figure, but it is not included as part of the Miami DMA.
It’s like if the DFW area were split into a Dallas DMA and a Fort Worth DMA.
It’s one metro area, but in Miami’s case it’s served by two DMAs.
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On 9/20/2024 at 11:35 PM, mre29 said:
I don't doubt its legitimacy, but you could have done some quick edits before posting.
Just saying.
If you’d like to edit it, be my guest!
Sorry I shared it.
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6 hours ago, mre29 said:
@MarkBRollins88_v2, I'm seeing a number of typos (such as "Serasota", "Molbourne", "Balimore") in your initial top-30 post. Are you sure you didn't get that list from an unedited draft?
Maybe it's time to merge the existing top-four boards into a single top-five or even top-ten board.
I copy and paste them from a picture of it so my phone might have mis-translated some one the words
I noticed it read the lowercase L in “Tulsa” as an I so when I copied the text over, it says “Tuisa”
but everything was spelled correctly on my source documents.
i can promise you it’s all very legit.
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With all of this in mind, I motion @Weeters to sunset the ‘Philadelphia News’ forum and replace it with a ‘DFW News Forum’
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6 minutes ago, Samantha said:
This is legit and corroborates with some other information I had previously gathered. @MarkBRollins88_v2 is it possible to get DMAs 201–210?
Wanted to also add some context. I've been maintaining a database of ADI and DMA rankers that goes back to 1968 (the concept of exclusive markets itself only began in 1966 with Arbitron and 1967 with Nielsen).
This is the first time AFAIK that Philadelphia has not been market #4. Dallas–Fort Worth was ADI #12 in 1968.
Only the top 200 were released AFAIK. Unclear what that means for 200-210
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Full list:
2023-24 RANK
2024-25 RANK
CHANGE IN RANK
MARKET
2023-24 TV HOUSEHOLDS
2024-25 TV HOUSEHOLDS
1
1
0
New York, NY
7595250
7494510
2
2
0
Los Angeles, CA
5905230
5835790
3
3
0
Chicago, IL
3648640
3654750
5
4
1
Dallas-Ft. Worth, TX
3130430
3264490
4
5
-1
Philadelphia, PA
3176540
3145920
6
6
0
Houston. TX
2772680
2797420
7
7
0
Atlanta, GA
2737480
2758170
9
8
1
Washington, DC (Hagerstown, MD)
2577690
2630640
8
9
-1|
Boston, MA (Manchester, NH)
2606030
2584460
10
10
0
San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose, CA
2520350
2542480
12
11
1
Tampa-St. Petersburg (Sarasota), FL
2143270
22221240
11
12
-1
Phoenix (Prescott), AZ
2174290
2198200
13
13
0
Seattle-Tacoma, WA
2070920
2098240
14
14
0
Detroit, MI
1929890
1940750
16
15
1
Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne, FL
1840340
1902420
15
16
-1
Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN
1861980
1886680
17
17
0
Denver, CO
1787410
1806270
18
18
0
Miami-Ft. Lauderdale, FL
1737000
1756920
19
19
0
Cleveland-Akron (Canton), OH
1552900
1554340
20
20
0
Sacramento-Stockton-vodesto, CA
1525760
1497920
21
21
0
Charlotte, NC
1361740
1382020
22
22
0
Raleigh-Durham (Fayetteville), NC
1333350
1345840
23
23
0
Portland, OR
1315030
1277920
24
24
0
St. Louis, MO
1285040
1273870
25
25
0
Indianapolis, IN
1205900
1232210
26
26
0
Nashville, TN
1191970
1199400
28
27
1
Pittsburgh, PA
1164860
1167890
27
28
-1
Salt Lake City, UT
1173870
1163520
29
29
0
Baltimore, MD
1161920
1155000
30
30
0
San Diego. CA
1122930
1116150
31
31
0
San Antonio, TX
1081400
1096400
32
32
0
Hartford & New Haven, CT
1034210
1060910
34
33
1
Kansas City, MO
1019080
1033680
35
34
1
Austin, TX
1000680
1029800
33
35
-2
Columbus. OH
1020490
1018390
36
36
0
Greenville-Spartanburg, SC-Asheville, NC-Anders
950970
987740
37
37
0
Cincinnati, OH
940410
958630
38
38
0
Milwaukee, WI
931550
944900
39
39
0
West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce, FL
912680
936790
40
40
0
Las Vegas, NV
888620
896460
41
41
0
Jacksonville, FL
799420
840340
44
42
2
Harrisburg-Lancaster-Lebanon-York, PA
774520
802360
42
43
-1
Grand Rapids-Kalamazoo-Battle Creek. MI
784190
801030
43
44
-1
Norfolk-Portsmouth-Newport News. VA
776230
779970
46
45
1
Birmingham (Anniston and Tuscaloosa), AL
756050
771860
45
46
-1
Greensboro-High Point-Winston Salem, NC
756270
766980
47
47
0
Oklahoma City, OK
737090
762700
49
48
1
Albuquerque-Santa Fe, NM
702680
708050
48
49
-1
Louisville, KY
707810
702310
51
50
1
New Orleans, LA
672320
672790
50
51
-1
Memphis, TN
672720
666300
53
52
1
Providence, RI-New Bedford, MA
647790
662810
55
53
2
Ft. Myers-Naples, FL
623670
641850
54
54
0
Buffalo, NY
641090
637090
52
55
-3
Fresno-Visalia, CA
649430
636260
56
56
0
Richmond-Petersburg, VA
611040
625380
57
57
0
Mobile, AL-Pensacola (Ft. Walton Beach), FL
606020
605340
59
58
1
Little Rock-Pine Bluff, AR
587660
590980
58
59
-1|
Wilkes Barre-Scranton-Hazleton. PA
588490
589190
61
60
1
Knoxville, TN
578600
584100
62
61
1
Tuisa, OK
557440
575780
60
62
-2
Albany-Schenectady-Troy, NY
580560
575590
63
63
0
Lexington, KY
515060
517660
66
64
2
Dayton, OH
486650
498200
65
65
0
Tucson (Sierra Vista), AZ
498090
497660
64
66
-2
Spokane, WA
500010
496260
67
67
0
Des Moines-Ames, IA
482450
480550
69
68
1
Green Bay-Appleton, WI
475650
478970
68
69
-1
Honolulu, HI
476990
470520
70
70
0
Roanoke-Lynchburg, VA
458320
460000
72
71
1
Wichita-Hutchinson, KS Plus
455550
458990
74
72
2
Flint-Saginaw-Bay City, MI
444780
458710
71
73
-2
Omaha, NE
455600
458080
73
74
-1
Springfield, MO
445800
454280
81
75
6
Huntsville-Decatur (Florence), AL
423570
452230
75
76
-1
Columbia, SC
443360
450440
77
77
0
Madison, WI
433920
443220
78
78
0
Portland-Auburn, ME
433250
439030
76
79
-3
Rochester, NY
436060
435860
82
80
2
Harlingen-Weslaco-Brownsville-McAllen, TX
422200
428240
80
81
-1
Toledo, OH
426210
424050
79
82
-3
Charleston-Huntington, WV
426870
422160
83
83
0
Waco-Temple-Bryan, TX
411930
419600
85
84
1
Savannah, GA
391320
400190
88
85
3
Charleston, SC
388840
399960
84
86
-2
Chattanooga, TN
410010
391370
86
87
-1
Colorado Springs-Pueblo, CO
390400
388730
87
88
-1
Syracuse, NY
389240
387030
89
89
0
El Paso, TX (Las Cruces, NM)
378650
385080
90
90
0
Paducah, KY-Cape Girardeau, MO-Harrisburg, IL
374420
378520
92
91
1
Shreveport, LA
372960
375030
91
92
-1
Champaign & Springfield-Decatur, IL
373250
371520
93
93
0
Burlington, VT-Plattsburgh, NY
366420
369840
94
94
0
Cedar Rapids-Waterloo-lowa City & Dubuque, IA
364260
364130
95
95
0
Baton Rouge, LA
357270
355760
96
96
0
Ft. Smith-Fayetteville-Springdale-Rogers, AR
348990
352410
99
97
2
Myrtie Beach-Florence, SC
338230
347660
97
98
-1
Boise, ID
341580
345250
98
99
-1
Jackson, MS
339750
339170
100
100
0
South Bend-Elkhart, IN
328740
331800
101
101
0
Tri-Cities, TN-VA
326330
331520
102
102
0
Greenville-New Bern-Washington, NC
310640
319350
103
103
0
Reno, NV
310570
315350
104
104
0
Davenport, IA-Rock Island-Moline, IL
301920
304840
105
105
0
Tallahassee, FL-Thomasville, GA
300610
303530
109
106
3
Tyler-Longview(Lufkin & Nacogdoches), TX
288630
297900
106
107
-1
Lincoln & Hastings-Kearney, NE
295450
296500
110
108
2
Augusta, GA-Aiken, SC
287840
291070
107
109
-2
Evansville, IN
291550
290790
108
110
-2
Ft. Wayne. IN
290350
290520
111
111
0
Sioux Falls(Mitchell), SD
286580
286600
112
112
0
Johnstown-Altoona-State College, PA
285750
285520
114
113
1
Fargo, ND
269740
269310
116
114
2
Yakima-Pasco-Richland-Kennewick, WA
262240
268030
115
115
0
Springfield-Holyoke, MA
268000
267210
118
116
2
Traverse City-Cadillac, MI
259540
266960
113
117
-4
Lansing, MI
271010
265830
117
118
-1
Youngstown, OH
260040
263000
120
119
1
Macon, GA
255090
258400
119
120
-1
Eugene, OR
256350
256020
121
121
0
Montgomery-Selma, AL
251540
249100
123
122
1
Peoria-Bloomington, IL
248490
246270
122
123
-1
Santa Barbara-Santa Maria-San Luis Obispo, CAl
248860
245950
125
124
1
Lafayette, LA
243740
245210
124
125
-1
Bakersfield, CA
247690
244310
128
126
2
Wilmington, NC
230510
240210
126
127
-1
Columbus, GA (Opelika, AL)
234620
234450
127
128
-1
Monterey-Salinas, CA
233940
230950
129
129
0
La Crosse-Eau Claire, Wi
223920
224120
130
130
0
Corpus Christi, TX
210480
209780
133
131
2
Salis bury, MD
193270
198930
131
132
-1
Amarillo, TX
195870
198790
132
133
-1
Wausau-Rhinelander, WI
195540
194130
135
134
1
Columbus-Tupelo-West Point-Houston, MS
190850
190950
136
135
1
Columbia-Jefferson City, MO
187170
190370
134
136
-2
Chico-Redding, CA
191030
188320
137
137
0
Rockford, IL
182070
180910
139
138
1
Duluth, MN-Superior, WI
176810
179710
138
139
-1
Medford-Klamath Falls, OR
179170
176990
141
140
1
Lubbock, TX
174470
176410
140
141
-1
Topeka, KS
175120
176250
142
142
0
Monroe, LA-EI Dorado, AR
173600
171300
144
143
1
Beaumont-Port Arthur, TX
169260
170420
147
144
3
Odessa-Midland, TX
160050
169390
143
145
-2
Palm Springs, CA
170150
167060
146
146
0
Anchorage, AK
165500
165750
145
147
-2
Bismarck-Minot-Dickinson(Williston),ND
168930
163860
148
148
0
Panama City, FL
158710
163100
150
149
1
Sioux City, IA
157500
157520
149
150
-1
Wichita Falls, TX & Lawton, OK
158250
156680
151
151
0
Joplin, MO-Pittsburg, KS
153990
155240
154
152
2
Albany, GA
151390
153090
152
153
-1
Rochester, MN-Mason City, IA-Austin, MN
152610
152720
153
154
-1
Erie, PA
152460
151250
155
155
0
Idaho Falls-Pocatello, ID (Jackson, WY)
147210
148180
156
156
0
Bangor, ME
146500
147060
158
157
1
Gainesville, FL
143480
146560
157
158
-1
Biloxi-Gulfport, MS
144350
144960
159
159
0
Terre Haute, IN
141090
142660
160
160
0
Sherman, TX-Ada, OK
136540
140220
161
161
0
Missoula, MT
136440
138300
162
162
0
Binghamton, NY
133620
132690
163
163
0
Wheeling, W-Steubenville, OH
126590
126550
164
164
0
Yuma, AZ-EI Centro, CA
122010
124660
165
165
0
Billings, MT
121170
120120
167
166
1
Abilene-Sweetwater, TX
117830
120020
166
167
-1
Bluefield-Beckley-Oak Hill, WV
119760
119330
168
168
0
Hatties burg-Laurel, MS
113740
114160
169
169
0
Rapid City, SD
108880
110060
170
170
0
Dothan, AL
107820
108770
171
171
0
Utica, NY
103310
102160
172
172
0
Clarksburg-Weston, WV
100640
101120
174
173
1
Harrisonburg, VA
99720
100920
175
174
1
Jackson, TN
98790
99740
176
175
1
Quincy, IL-Hannibal, MO-Keokuk, IA
98590
99650
173
176
-3
Charlottesville, VA
100520
99260
177
177
0
Lake Charles, LA
98130
97170
178
178
0
Elmira (Corning), NY
95420
94030
179
179
0
Watertown, NY
93680
93350
180
180
0
Bowling Green, KY
91260
93320
181
181
0
Marquette, MI
88290
89550
183
182
1
Jonesboro, AR
87600
89400
182
183
-1
Alexandria, LA
87870
85710
186
184
2
Laredo, TX
82720
84750
184
185
-1
Butte-Bozeman, MT
82820
83590
185
186
-1
Bend, OR
82760
83160
187
187
0
Grand Junction-Montrose, CO
80830
81090
189
188
1
Twin Falls, ID
75070
77070
188
189
-1
Lafayette, IN
75190
74620
190
190
0
Lima, OH
70150
69630
191
191
0
Great Falls, MT
66110
66390
192
192
0
Meridian, MS
65280
64660
194
193
1
Cheyenne, WY-Scotts bluff, NE
61010
60950
193
194
-1
Parkersburg, W
61720
60660
196
195
1
Greenwood-Greenville, MS
60640
59980
195
196
-1
Eureka, CA
60870
59670
197
197
0
San Angelo, TX
58460
57040
198
198
0
Casper-Riverton, WY
56870
56860
199
199
0
Mankato, MN
56310
56190
200
200
0
Ottumwa, IA-Kirksville, MO
46450
47020
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2 minutes ago, TheRolyPoly said:
May I ask how you got this?
A reliable source.
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I’ve been informed Nielsen has updated its market rankings for 2024, and this is the new list of top 30 DMAs, effective Sept. 28.
Note DFW has finally surpassed Philly as #4.
(Full list including year-to-year change in comments)
2024-2025 RANK
MARKET
TV HOUSEHOLDS
1
New York, NY
7494510
2
Los Angeles, CA
5835790
3
Chicago, IL
3654750
4
Dallas-Ft. Worth, TX
3264490
5
Philadelphia, PA
3145920
6
Houston, TX
2797420
7
Atlanta, GA
2758170
8
Washington, DC (Hagerstown, MD)
2630640
9
Boston, MA (Manchester, NH)
2584480
10
San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose, CA
2542480
11
Tampa-St. Petersburg (Serasota), FL
2221240
12
Phoenix (Prescott), AZ
2198200
13
Seattie-Tacoma, WA
2098240
14
Detroit, MI
1940750
15
Orlando-Daytona Beach-Molbourne. FL
1902420
16
Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN
1888680
17
Denver, CO
1806270
18
Miami-Ft. Lauderdale, FL
1756920
19
Cleveland-Akron (Canton), OH
1554340
20
Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto, CA
1497920
21
Charlotte, NC
1382020
22
Raleigh-Durham (Fayettevile), NC
1345840]
23
Portland, OR
1277920
24
St. Louis, MO
1273870
25
Indianapolis, IN
1232210
26
Nashvile, TN
1199400
27
Pietsburgh, PA
1167890
28
Salt Lake City. UT
1163520
29
Balimore, MO
1155000
30
San Diego, CA
1116150
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On 6/20/2024 at 3:45 PM, Chicago2008 said:
How common would you all say ambush style interviews are? Finally why would you all say you don't see them much anymore? Thanks
I would say they’re still done just as much as they always have. But they should only be reserved for very certain situations.
generally, a reporter should only want to approach someone with the mic on and camera rolling unannounced if the situation meets the following criteria (and this is very subjective and situational:
1. The person being “ambushed” is a public servant (politician, police chief, city manager, etc.), OR a powerful/influential private citizen (business owner, lawyer, political staff member, celebrity).
2. The person must be facing serious accusations that majorly affect the lives and/or wallets of members of the public who have put their trust in that person (embezzlement, murder, assault, any number of sex crimes, fraud, racketeering, electioneering etc.).
***THE ACCUSATIONS SHOULD BE DOCUMENTED AND YOU SHOULD ALREADY HAVE DONE SOME DUE DILIGENCE YOUR OWN TO VALIDATE THE CLAIMS***
3. The reporter has made *numerous* attempts to reach the person in good faith to schedule an interview, and documented these attempts. This should include, but is not limited to, emails, phone calls, showing up to their office and requesting to schedule an interview, etc.
4. A reasonable amount of time has passed for the person to respond to those requests. This can vary situationally. But at least a 24 hours should be given.
5. The reporter has specific questions that have not been answered, and the only person who can answer them is the person being “ambushed.”
Again, all of that is very fluid and just a very basic idea of the ethics behind “ambushing” people.
Some will have looser ethics around this stuff, some will have tighter ethics.
My pet peeve: Some stations will go for low-hanging fruit “behind the kitchen door” stories where they find a restaurant with a low (but not failing) health rating and show up to the restaurant with a camera and put them on blast as if they serve straight-up poison to their customers (even though they still passed inspection—albeit not by much.) In my opinion, using ambush tactics for stuff like that is like the boy who cried wolf. It sensationalizes something that really isn’t a problem.
While I personally wouldn’t say I’ve seen any huge decrease in the use of this tactic—If you *have* been seeing fewer ambush-style interviews as of late, it’s probably because many newsrooms have strengthened ethics around this stuff, and are moving away from consultant-driven overly-sensational non-stories, as the years have gone on… because it’s not good journalism.
TLDR: You should save ambush tactics for the most serious situations in which you and the public have been denied answers you have a right to know by someone in a position of power.
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The video was made private anyone have screen shots
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On 12/15/2023 at 7:54 AM, Abraham J. Simpson said:
I’m old enough to say my generation isn’t going to be around to see a structural shift. I hope the upcoming generations make progress,
This is the exact mindset killing this industry.
Current Boomer-aged executives are they to have their cake and eat it too.
They’re trying to make money off TV in the short term, while setting it up to fail in the long term, but they’ll be retired by then, so it’ll be Gen Z’s problem.
Prime examples of this are Nexstar’s ban on livestreaming news, or the industry’s move as a whole to grow more and more dependent on retrans agreements with dying cable companies as revenue sources.
yes, these will maximize profits right now.
but what about when everyone has cut the cord, so there are no retrans agreements to be had, and everyone who watches news watches it via live stream, but they won’t know nexstar stations exist.
but we’ll let the future generation deal with that.
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32 minutes ago, Abraham J. Simpson said:
It is often popular and easy to blame some general group of people and paint them as some kind of Snidely Whiplash cartoon villain, but sometimes people with a specific skill set who excel in their field make what the market will support. Is it fair someone who can hit a baseball will collect whatever hundreds of millions the most recent contract was for? Makes me roll my eyes, but in reality, if they think that investment will fill the seats and move the merchandise to recoup the cost (and of course, I know it's part of a team, and the team being successful is part of the filling seats/selling merch equation), then whatever. Lots of other people in the organization undoubtedly work hard and do their best, and they aren't making that bank (I'm talking staff here, not players).
Strikes are powerful tools, and if someone can organize one and make it successful, more power to them. It's not easy. Hell, it's often very risky to understate it. It's also not always an easy sell to garner public sympathy--sometimes yes, sometimes no. We're in a bit of a time in the nation where more attention is paid to the CEO/average worker gap, and there may be ways to leverage that, or it could end up backfiring, so to speak. I would suggest that the best target is the CEO type position, it's an easier concept to sell. Joe the sales guy who happened to make a nice living because he's darned good at selling doesn't make the same compelling comparison when you're trying to get sympathy on a large scale. Bob Iger? Ok, that's doable. Not going to win over everyone, but there's a difference there. (And not to pick him specifically, he was just the first example that popped to mind.)
You sound just like a couple GMs I’ve worked for
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On 12/6/2023 at 2:33 PM, MichiganNewsGraphicsJunkie said:
Not sure if this is the place for this question or not, but please move it if it isn't...
Anyways, my question is: What's up with anchors/mmjs/etc constantly moving after 1-2 years?? Doesn't this make them less credible?? I'm just curious why stations are hiring people, only to have them leave after a year... I've been doing some searches and haven't come across a somewhat clear answer...
I also just want to say thank you for asking this question.
For people outside the industry, most have no idea the crap conditions and pay reporters/MMJs/photogs/mets, etc have to put up with.
its time to shine a light on this for the public.
10 hours ago, MediaZone4K said:Not to sound extremist, but journalists need to be the next group to strike. This especially as stations rely more on news departments for direct ad revenue with syndication options drying up.
You will never see a mass TV journalist strike simply because very, very few are in unions.
And any attempts for a newsroom to unionize would likely be fruitless and would almost guarantee contract non-renewals for anyone who tried to unionize.
that being said, I fantasize often about a day when I could join a union and show management how truly f*cked they’d be without their news people.
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2 hours ago, Abraham J. Simpson said:
A commission based team gets rewarded for successful sales. Good, bad, anywhere in between, it’s not any one group of people or one industry where that doesn’t happen. And if you’re not a successful seller, you’re not bringing home that big payday.
I could never, ever in a million years be good at a sales role. So I’m never, ever going to be getting commissions commensurate with what I bring in. Oh well, that’s the world.
That doesn’t excuse the fact that, at every station I’ve worked, the base, pre-commission minimum salary range for even entry-level sales positions is still significantly higher than pretty much every news position except for main anchors and news director.
and yes, I’ve seen the salary ranges with my own eyes.
this is at several stations in small, medium and large markets.
let’s also not forget, that ratings are directly tied to what sales can charge their customers. So if ratings go up, whatever commission sales people get would be higher than when ratings were down, simply by the fact that they can charge higher rates.
even though they did nothing to contribute to those higher ratings that allowed them to sell ads for more.
in other words, the news department at every station plays *a* role in the sales team’s success, but they do not see the rewards.
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5 hours ago, Abraham J. Simpson said:
Not sure it means anything for “credibility.” We all understand people move on, and of course some settle in for long stretches, too.
As for the money aspect, for better, worse and everything in between, the bottom line is what it is. You aren’t going to get the same viewership and ad revenue in a world that has splintered into a million different viewing options. The slices of those pies get smaller. It undoubtedly sucks, and like many fields, sucks more as time goes on. But there are far bigger macroeconomic issues at play that aren’t unique to the industry and aren’t going to be solved in one industry alone.
While the fact that revenue is shrinking and money is drying up and the industry is basically dead is true, stations have been screwing over reporters and MMJs for money in favor of their sales buddies since the dawn of TV news, even when the cash was flowing deep
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Without revealing too much…
1. Because for reporters/MMJs, the contracts are usually 2-3 years
2. Because those contracts usually always pay them crap money, and stations are usually not willing to give them raises for a new contract that would even account for any inflation that happened during the expiring contract—because at the end of the day—they know they can just bring someone else in with less experience and pay them less than the experienced person wanting to renew their contract.
“But wouldn’t a station want to pay what it takes to keep talent around if they’re willing to stay, so the product is stable and the journalism is actually good?”
No. Because despite what GMs and excs will tell you, they give approximately zero shits about newscast quality, as long as the viewership isn’t plummeting (and even if it is, they see that as an excuse to get rid of the current people).
It’s all a money game. That’s all it ever was and ever will be. It’s why sales people make the big bucks. Because execs and GMs don’t view news talent as “direct revenue producers” who deserve a fair, comfortable wage (actually words a GM has told me
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They view reporters and MMJs as objects—as nuts and bolts in a car the sales department is trying sell and make commission off. You don’t pay the parts that make up the car. They’re lifeless objects. You pay the sales guy who sold it. Even though there would be no car to sell without the nuts and bolts.
They wish they didn’t have to pay them at all, but those pesky labor laws force them to have to view reporters and MMJs as humans deserving of minimum wage and not much more.
With this analogy in mind, even if a reporter or MMJ likes the smaller market they’re currently under contract in, the only way for a reporter or MMJ to get a sizable raise is to move to a bigger market when their contract is up, to a market where they’re viewed by management as the expendable, lifeless nuts and bolts in a GMC Yukon a sales hotshot is trying to profit off, instead of the expendable, lifeless nuts and bolts in Ford Fiesta a sales hotshot is trying to profit off.
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2 hours ago, ScottSchell said:
I honestly think it just depends on the contract conditions when Clint left he couldn’t announce where he was going until the contract was up so I think his contract was done at the end of December since that’s when he announced where he was heading. Kinda like when Mike Collier left 8 he wasn’t actually supposed to be on air for another week but KJRH said screw it kicked Brett Anthony out during severe weather and had Mike go on.
I just mean more of the fact that this can happen at all…
I believe the only other states this is really even possible are California and South Dakota.
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On 1/1/2022 at 10:08 AM, ScottSchell said:
Update on Clint Boone he has joined KOTV replacing Kendell Smith who’s with FOX Weather and Sawyer Wells who left the station yesterday to become a doctor (His replacement starts soon from what Sawyer told me). Clint rejoins Travis Meyer who was his boss at KTUL in the mid 2000’s he will be on weekends starting next weekend.
Oklahoma’s “no non-competes” law really does help talent wreak havoc on their stations when they just pick up and cross the street and I’m here for the drama.
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On 12/28/2021 at 1:06 AM, C Block said:
I haven’t paid too much attention to KUSA lately, but I noticed they’ve rebranded their morning show from “Mile High Mornings” back to simply “9News Mornings.” They’ve also brought back the “Colorado’s News Leader” tagline, and it seems like they’re starting to use the KTVD callsign in the KTVD branding. It seems like they’re trying to go back to a more sober and authoritative brand unlike…*gestures broadly* whatever they’ve been doing the last few years.
It’s almost like viewers want the news—to do—get this—actual news.
Hopefully this return to the way things were will be contagious and spread to their sister station in Dallas. But I won’t hold my breath.
Maybe that’ll happen if Soo Kim/Apollo/The Cox family (what little power they have left) get their hands on TEGNA.
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16 hours ago, dman748 said:
Wouldn't that put Google at risk of being sued by groups like Hearst, Tegna, Gray and Scripps for breach of contract on the ABC affiliates? Because they do have deals with those groups which did cover the ABC affiliates.
My (non-lawyer) brain tells me google would be violating retrans agreements with the station groups by removing all of their programming, even local newscasts and syndicated shows, infomercials, education programming, etc. that have nothing to do with ABC.
But clearly Google’s lawyers think this is okay.
Seems like an overreach if you ask me. But I haven’t seen the fine print of the deals the station groups have, so maybe it allows for this.
Certainly, if there is a loophole in station groups’ agreements with google (or any other carrier) that allow this to happen, I’m sure next time they negotiate a deal… they will add a clause to make sure this can’t happen.
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I’m curious, have we ever seen something like this happen before… where a cable/streaming provider removes an entire network and its affiliates from its lineup, without regard for the fact that those affiliates carry more than just that network’s programming?
I can’t think of one.
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On 11/13/2021 at 9:37 AM, MidwestTV said:
This is correct. It's only on full screen gfx. Minor changes, but they're definitely improvements. Bigger elements, more depth, color gradients, and some updated animations. It isn't as flat as it was.
Any examples?
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Nexstar...again
in Corporate Chat
Posted · Edited by MarkBRollins88_v2
You are 100% correct, and corporate has been made aware of that, but will not be budging.
I think they’re more concerned about possible liabilities than any competitive advantage or profit.
They understand they will effectively be losing money on this, but seem okay with that