NewzPimpin 1 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 I've been wearing dress clothing for a large portion of my life. I'm no fashion guru, but I was brought up knowing the basic rules of dress attire, such as: *The 3rd button on a blazer is NOT designed to be buttoned *A handkerchief or pocket square is supposed to match either your tie or shirt etcetera, etcetera. In other words, my fashion, as far as dressing as a TV journalist, is quite traditional. After all, traditional NEVER goes out of style. Anyway, I was watching the news on WREG this Saturday afternoon and saw Memphis TV news mainstay Omari Fleming wearing this WARNING: THE IMAGE YOU ARE ABOUT TO SEE MIGHT CAUSE SOME VISION LOSS. PLEASE PROCEED WITH GREAT CAUTION. That's a big ass knot, I tell you what. My question: is this a new trend or something? Omari is not the only one doing this; to a lesser extent, WHBQ weekend anchor Bernard Watson has adopted the same habit. Both wear these kinds of knots on a regular basis while anchoring. As for me, personally, I think it's just a [very annoying] trend that will [hopefully] pass [soon]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GForceTV Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 This looks like a job for SuitSnob! FINALLY! Someone else who posts at Sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 996 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Wow. That is umm...bad. SuitSnob is going to have a ball with this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GForceTV Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Only if he has time off. He's busy teaming up with Siggy against Powers in the Apprentice board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GForceTV Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 This looks like a job for SuitSnob! FINALLY! Someone else who posts at Sucks! WTF? Survivor Sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelicanGuy 117 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Holy crap! That is a bad knot...plus, it's not up as far as it should be...in other words, he can pull it up some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakingNews08 0 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 His tie knot is called a "Full Windsor." It's more of a contemporary fashion...It's always been around. I compare it to 4-button suits that basketball players wear...only certain people can pull it off. I've worn that type of knot to church before but never on air. The reason it looks like his knot is not tight or pulled up all the way is because he is wearing another fashion trend. The shirt collar he is wearing is sort of new and should be worn with small knots only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuitSnob 19 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 My fellow Sucks bretheren summoned me!!! What a mess. The Full Windsor is the hardest knot of all to pull off...usually used by only the most sartorially ambitious and overacheivers. If it is done correctly, it is a real show-off detail. But, when done by an amateur, as seen here and it slips down it is truly disastarous. Better to tie an easy knot and succeed than tie a complicated knot and fail miserably. You would think these station's make-up people would catch this sort of thing before these guys go on air. Or at least they should do a once-over in the mirror before every broadcast. And for the first poster: YES on not buttoning the bottom button but NO on the pocket square matching the tie, unless you are auditioning for The Sopranos: The MUSICAL!!!! The pocket square can be linkied with the colors of the tie, but never an exact match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewzPimpin 1 Posted June 3, 2007 Author Share Posted June 3, 2007 And for the first poster: YES on not buttoning the bottom button but NO on the pocket square matching the tie, unless you are auditioning for The Sopranos: The MUSICAL!!!! The pocket square can be linkied with the colors of the tie, but never an exact match. Thank you. I knew if I slipped up, you'd be the first to catch it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuitSnob 19 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 His tie knot is called a "Full Windsor." It's more of a contemporary fashion...It's always been around. I compare it to 4-button suits that basketball players wear...only certain people can pull it off. I've worn that type of knot to church before but never on air. The reason it looks like his knot is not tight or pulled up all the way is because he is wearing another fashion trend. The shirt collar he is wearing is sort of new and should be worn with small knots only. Actually, it is a wide-spread collar and ideal for a Full Windsor. The problem is it isn't tied tightly enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakingNews08 0 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Actually, it is a wide-spread collar and ideal for a Full Windsor. The problem is it isn't tied tightly enough. Yeah, I couldn't remember if the wide spread collar was right or wrong for a full windsor. I remember reading it in magazine one time. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuitSnob 19 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Don't the stations have a fashion consultant to help the guys dress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueflag 0 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 I don't hate the look in concept -- there's nothing wrong with a Windsor knot (and as previously noted, that's what you need for a collar with a spread as big as that one), but that one's tied awfully -- tighten that thing up! The collar needs a proper pressing, too, which is probably part of the problem. I can't really pull off a three-button; but for those who can, here's a simple guide: O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuitSnob 19 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 I don't hate the look in concept -- there's nothing wrong with a Windsor knot (and as previously noted, that's what you need for a collar with a spread as big as that one), but that one's tied awfully -- tighten that thing up! The collar needs a proper pressing, too, which is probably part of the problem. I can't really pull off a three-button; but for those who can, here's a simple guide: O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuitSnob 19 Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 I got a few shots of men in the NYC market that wear Full Windsors to varying degrees of success: Here is Rob Malcolm of FOX5 who does very niceley with a medium-spread collar and keeps the knot under control: But then here it just gets too wide...to the point that it makes a wide-spread collar buckle: Here is Jeff Rossen from the local ABC affiliate (you may recognise him from a REALLY humiliating scene from "Bowling For Columbine") who also lets it get out of hand: Here is Charles Perez, formerly of the local ABC station...I believe he is now in Miami. He is very tall which helps keep the knot from getting too large, and consistantly pulled it off: And finally, also in the "perfect" column...the Standard Bearer of Men's Sartorial Excellance in New York City, Lee Goldberg: So, it can be done and done well...just takes talent and flair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueflag 0 Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Actually, here's some even simpler advice about four-button suits -- don't. In that first shot of Rob Malcolm, his knot is *way* too big for that collar. (That's why we have the half-Windsor.) Jeff Rossen's seems just about right. And there's no arguing with you about Lee Goldberg. Sorry, I don't read the New York board. Can't help you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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