Geoffrey 861 Posted May 4, 2010 Author Share Posted May 4, 2010 It appears there is now a crawl on the bottom of the screen for every CBS 2 newscast. I don't know if I really like that on the afternoon and evening newscasts. It is more for the morning newscasts when people are in a hurry getting ready. I hate the ticker at all times of the day. I haven't been paying close attention but I wonder if the ticker is there just for the Times Square thing and isn't intended to be permanent. Interestingly, the last time a nice graphics look was "dumbed down" (August 2006), there was also a ticker on the evening newscasts, but only for a few days. Actually, I hate the ticker in the morning, too. I ignore it for the most part and I bet that most people do as well. I'd much rather have something more graphical... Remember the Info Box and Info Bar? I liked how the weather was more eye-catching with icons instead of having to read moving text. It looks like CBS 2 is trying to copy the cable news channels. First with those single-anchor music-less teases (which looked so bad -- glad they pretty much abandoned that), now with the ticker, and now they type out a sentence for most stories on the lower-thirds. It's just way too much to read. CBS 2 also seems to be trying to address the readability issues with their lower-thirds. First the text on the name and title L3s were made larger (and it looked ridiculous, in my opinion). Now the top name line has been made slightly smaller again, which looks better. Also, the lower title line as well as the two-line "story sentence" L3s now have a much more solid blue color behind it. I think it looks better but it all looks inconsistent and sloppy to me. Wish they'd have put more thought into this stuff in the first place. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-58692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMA 135 Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Hopefully in the coming weeks they'll standardize it. I think they need to start from scratch on the L3s. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-58695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchorman 94 Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 I messed around on paint real quick (excuse the slobby job) but what about doing something like how I have the HD inside the "2" ... makes it look less awkward, no? (the version I did would of course be modified to look better, etc... just wanted to get the general point across) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-58699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc485 87 Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 I also do not like the ticker at all... it's fine for the morning newscast, but I find it to be distracting and unnecessary at noon, 5, 6, and 11. I agree that the graphics, especially the lower thirds, need improvement. What's with the light gray CBS eye on the left side of the "Coming Up" lower thirds and the "headline" lower thirds? It is almost impossible to see the eye. Actually, what's the point of all the extra eyes in the lower thirds? We have an eye in the bug, an eye on the live bug, and an eye on the left side of all lower thirds. We get it... we're watching CBS! It's redundant to have all of the eyes. And, as far as the regular lower thirds, why not have a consistent font size and background? The single line lower third (for anchor names, locations, etc.) has text that looks way too big (this was recently made much larger, presumably for readability), and the two-line lower thirds now have a full blue background, rather than the translucent black background that they previously had. Again, I assume that this change to the solid blue background was made to make the lower thirds easier to read, but it just looks sloppy and is inconsistent with the other lower thirds. I think they really need to just start over with the lower thirds so that they can make them consistent. And while they're at it, can't they find something more interesting than Arial? I know that Arial easy to read, but there are other simple fonts out there that are easy to read and have some style, too. Generally speaking, I find this entire look to be "cold" compared to the previous look. I think it probably has something to do with the fact that the new color scheme (dark blue, gray, black) is much darker than the previous blue and orange look. I think they should have added accents in a contrasting color (maybe yellow or gold?) to brighten the look a bit. The opens are also a big letdown compared to the previous opens. The shots of the city in the open look nice, but the new CBS 2 News logo and the animation look bland, and the new open graphics do not fit the music as well as the previous look did. At least they are still using the same great cuts of Enforcer. I'll get off my soapbox now, but I had to vent. The previous look was much nicer, and it's obvious from all of the tweaks that have been made since the new look launched that this new graphics package was not particularly well thought out. I expected better! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-58701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYNews 54 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I guess the transparent L3 has been dropped in favor for a blue one. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-58718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colortini 76 Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 As of tonight, it looks like they tweaked the L3's a bit once again. There was blue behind Otis' name when he was introduced & when Dr. Holly filed a report, it was still transparent but with blue underneath where it said CBS2 News....and the ticker was gone(hopefully for good). If anyone wants to see the change, just click the video of Lonnie tonight on http://www.cbsnewyork.com Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-58731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw-804 192 Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Yeah, I noticed the L3 tweaking. Y'all happy now? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-58732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewsJunkie247 1 Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 So we now have an improved look on the lower thirds and the ticker is gone. Hopefully they keep it that way! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-58734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmediaguy 123 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 CBS Mandate, Part Deux? KTVT will (has?) adopt a similar look. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nTZqdGp1fk Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-58771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler 151 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 What are the odds of KDKA getting a similar open? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-58773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennTV1983 804 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 What are the odds of KDKA getting a similar open? About as likely as hell freezing over if that happens. If CBS is planning for a full standardization rollout on most, if not all, of their O&Os, it may be coming sooner. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-58775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey 861 Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share Posted May 15, 2010 The graphics were made bigger today. They're either there for the blind or to make you go blind. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-58778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometown News 54 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Why can't they just replace them already, as they are hideous at all sizes? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-58781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw-804 192 Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 The graphics were made bigger today. They look the same to me. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-58787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc485 87 Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 On Friday at 5pm, CBS 2 increased the size of the lower thirds and the bug by about 20-30%, but by last night, everything was back to the normal size. I really think this package looks terrible... it's a definite downgrade compared to the previous "HDTV" look. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-58790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshow 166 Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 KCNC in Denver now has the new look... Which station is next? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjoDqdY6DFU Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-58987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjohnson 17 Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 Methinks the graphics in Boston days are numbered. It would be a big step backward for WBZ, but I could see it happening, now that KCNC has gotten the CBS 2.0 HD treatment. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-58991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmediaguy 123 Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 Methinks the graphics in Boston days are numbered. It would be a big step backward for WBZ, but I could see it happening, now that KCNC has gotten the CBS 2.0 HD treatment. Hopefully not. Any insiders know exactly how "mandated" this may or may not be?? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-58993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Block 1566 Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 I doubt they would sabotage WBZ's well-known identity...again. That was a mistake when they changed their name to CBS4, and ratings improved when they rebranded as WBZ. I'm sure WBZ could get an exemption. The reason why KCNC got the new graphics is because they never dropped the CBS4 branding, and their previous graphics were a bad mix of WBZ's graphics and something reminiscent of KCNC's old CBS look. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-59001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ntropolis 596 Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 ....ratings improved when they rebranded as WBZ. Not by much; 'BZ's still getting hammered in all timeslots even with the "Curious" identity. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-59002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
swillh2k2 203 Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 Some of the Group W stations like KDKA, WJZ and KPIX will stay put IMHO, along with WCCO and WFOR. Could definitely see this look spreading to KYW (maybe WBZ), KOVR and that's it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-59005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess 1115 Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 Not by much; 'BZ's still getting hammered in all timeslots even with the "Curious" identity. And the CSD who oversaw the "curious" identity left the station to head up creative services at KABC in Los Angeles, so unfortunately I can see WBZ getting saddled with this look... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-59008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmediaguy 123 Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 And the CSD who oversaw the "curious" identity left the station to head up creative services at KABC in Los Angeles, so unfortunately I can see WBZ getting saddled with this look... Her replacement is an internal candidate and the GM that was instrumental in the rebrand remains. The campaign is very much alive. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-59010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess 1115 Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 Her replacement is an internal candidate and the GM that was instrumental in the rebrand remains. The campaign is very much alive. Okay, then that's very, very good! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-59011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometown News 54 Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 The day WBZ adopts those monstrosities is the day I stop watching 'BZ. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/6392-new-cbs-2-logo/page/3/#findComment-59019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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