FirstNews8 13 Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Does anyone know a cheap way to do a live chroma key presentation, i have been looking into Ultra 2, but i do want something where i can hook a camera and computer. Any ideas? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/827-chroma-keying-live/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewzPimpin 1 Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Ultra is extremely cool. I'm not sure exactly what you want to do, though... Could you be more specific? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/827-chroma-keying-live/#findComment-6576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstNews8 13 Posted March 17, 2007 Author Share Posted March 17, 2007 Well, i would like to do this just like meteorologists do, with a computer hooked up, and a camera, and a monitor to view it where you point. This is for our high school, they have everything set up to do all the taping and the other work, but the chroma key for the weather isnt set up, they dont know how to do it. So if you know of anything please let me know, THANX! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/827-chroma-keying-live/#findComment-6586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstNews8 13 Posted March 17, 2007 Author Share Posted March 17, 2007 Well, we have the cameras and all that, its just the LIVE thing we need, so they can point at things. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/827-chroma-keying-live/#findComment-6588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElliotJones 52 Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Could it be possible to pre-tape it just before the broadcast, and have the talent look at the studio monitors? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/827-chroma-keying-live/#findComment-6589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbjimbo 0 Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 I think what they're looking for is a way to have the studio monitors display the feed of the weather studio cam with the person in front of it and the graphics behind them. They can add the graphics in later but that's makes it difficult to tape because the graphics aren't being displayed simultaneously and whoever is doing the weather has to guess where the graphic will be after its inserted in post-editing. So they're looking for some kind of relay system for the monitors that will add the graphic in right there and then so the person can actually see where their hand is in relation to the graphic. And I'd love to hear what others have to say cause I have the same problem w\ my broadcasts. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/827-chroma-keying-live/#findComment-6592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Texas 0 Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 ...also from experience, you do NOT want to use one of those cheapy Videonics units for chroma-keying. Seconded. We had to use videonics equipment to do our broadcasts, when I was in H.S., and it's awful. We had the idea to incoporate weather in our newscasts, but the chroma keying function was awful, it doesn't key-in all the way. Not worth investing for your project... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/827-chroma-keying-live/#findComment-6597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstNews8 13 Posted March 17, 2007 Author Share Posted March 17, 2007 Great, does anyone know a cheap, nice, effective mixer then that would work for chroma keying? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/827-chroma-keying-live/#findComment-6599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief-O 31 Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 a good consumer-grade (but loaded with many professional features) switcher would be the TriCaster from Newtek -- Newtek is the same company that made the Video Toaster systems from the late 80's onto present. The TriCaster is a small and portable Windows XP box, a self-contained switcher with built-in character generator (in other words you can run pre-built OTS, L3, full screens [supports animation]), a built-in VTR with hard drive for storing video and playing it back live to air, a plethora of transitions and effects (even 3D ones), and the chroma-keyer is as good as a professional external unit. For schools that can afford one, this is a very good investment that can power an entire broadcast (compare to the very basic Videonics switcher that many schools have, priced at over $2,000), this unit is about $5,000 and has is incomparable in its ability. Another awesome feature for school newscasts that incorporate weather forecasts, you can use another computer running Powerpoint directly over the network as a video source...no scan converter or video cables necessary! This thing will even run a live online stream of your broadcasts if you want! I can speak from experience that the chroma-key function on the TC is just about as good as you can get from any Grass Valley/Sony/Ross/etc. switcher. Very clean, and able to work in a wide lighting latitude----my high school studio's chroma wall isn't lit that well, but the TC still keys like a champ. About the only thing it can't do too well is graphics, but just ask the fine folks here to design them for ya..... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/827-chroma-keying-live/#findComment-6619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElliotJones 52 Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Oh my God, yes, seconded on the TriCaster. We use ours for any EFP - Sports, Concerts, and any other events. It's also possible to upload your own graphics. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/827-chroma-keying-live/#findComment-6620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstNews8 13 Posted March 18, 2007 Author Share Posted March 18, 2007 SUPER!!! Thanks guys ya all gave me some great ideas. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/827-chroma-keying-live/#findComment-6629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstNews8 13 Posted May 24, 2007 Author Share Posted May 24, 2007 ...also from experience, you do NOT want to use one of those cheapy Videonics units for chroma-keying. Seconded. We had to use videonics equipment to do our broadcasts, when I was in H.S., and it's awful. We had the idea to incoporate weather in our newscasts, but the chroma keying function was awful, it doesn't key-in all the way. Not worth investing for your project... So, for the Videonics mixer.... does it work at all? or does it have spots and such where it dosnt key fully? I know you have to have very good lighting for that. I am looking on eBay and have asked several people with Panosonic mixers, JVC mixers which are near my price range... and they dont have a clue what even chroma key is. What mixers have and dont have the chroma key features. We have a very tight budget for this $400-under, if you could point me in the right direction that'd be great. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/827-chroma-keying-live/#findComment-10986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstNews8 13 Posted May 24, 2007 Author Share Posted May 24, 2007 http://cgi.ebay.com/PANASONIC-WJ-4600B-SPECIAL-EFFECTS-GENERATOR_W0QQitemZ150116177853QQihZ005QQcategoryZ21166QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem this is the one I am looking at. Does it have chroma keying? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/827-chroma-keying-live/#findComment-10987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbjimbo 0 Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 I believe this is probably exactly what your looking for: http://www.adobe.com/products/visualcommunicator/ . You can download it and use it until its debut (which is very soon if it didn't already pass). Basically the program splits your screen in thirds. Left is a live monitor, which you can chroma key a preview in real timel; middle is a prompter; and the right side is where you put titles, effects, OTS ahead a time. I hope this helps. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/827-chroma-keying-live/#findComment-18744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1916 Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 I believe this is probably exactly what your looking for: http://www.adobe.com/products/visualcommunicator/ . You can download it and use it until its debut (which is very soon if it didn't already pass). Basically the program splits your screen in thirds. Left is a live monitor, which you can chroma key a preview in real timel; middle is a prompter; and the right side is where you put titles, effects, OTS ahead a time. I hope this helps. It's running until September 30th. I'm using that for USNCD right now. It's a pretty good system. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/827-chroma-keying-live/#findComment-18750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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