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Always thought Holmes and Robach were the future for main GMA, but this event makes things very interesting indeed. They always had good chemistry on-air, but it seems like things sparked off-air.  I wonder how ABC will position this? Will viewers care? I think if they come out in the open and be truthful about what happened, I think most viewers who are already invested in GMA3 will be okay with it, I think some morning viewers will actually welcome it (might even help with ratings). They weren't in an affair like the tabloids are saying, it's 2022 and they've been separated from their partners since August. 

32 minutes ago, CLETVFan said:

Does anyone see NewsNation content and programming popping up on The CW?

Very likely we will see programming powered by NewsNation, I can totally see crime documentaries and other news magazine specials (in the vein of how TMZ has been doing primetime specials on Fox) being part of the lineup. 

Kinda sad but not shocked that Mark Pedowitz is gone. He did a lot of good for The CW and kept the network's relevancy. It will certainly be interesting to see where Nextstar will take The CW, would love to see some sort of original programing continue. 

Newsy was a cool and fresh brand, I think it's more catchy than "Scripps News". 

I wonder if Scripps News and Scripps stations will have a unifying brand aka new graphics packages and music coming soon? I mean, they might as well standardize the whole thing. 

1 hour ago, FiveNews said:

#BoycottKTLA is on Twitter. While I may not agree with how KTLA handled the Lynette situation, some of the folks on Twitter do not understand how a TV contract works. Plain and simple, Mark violated the terms and conditions of his contract, hence his departure. I really wish viewers understood how the intricacies of TV news works. I'd like to engage with some of the viewers on Twitter, but I know it would be fruitless.

The thing is, morning television is such a communal experience. That's the wonderful thing that KTLA Morning News has been able to establish all these years and why they have been unbeatable, these news personalities become part of people's daily routine, viewers invite them into their house every single morning as they report news-weather-traffic-entertainment-and-everything-else, KTLA gave viewers a window to the world and interpersonal bonds are developed in the process -- Lynette connected with many viewers, and to have her 24 year career as a respected broadcast journalist end with a short and lackluster announcement was hurtful to loyal viewers, it's as if their family member was evicted suddenly.

Listen, I totally understand the roots and protocols that human resources and management have to abide with, but it's this by-the-book nonsense that people have an issue with. All of this could have been prevented if management came to their senses and gave Lynette a dignified manner to say goodbye, just at a PR standpoint at the very least.

Did Mark Mester make a mistake for going rogue on live television? Yes, putting out dirty laundry last Saturday was disrespectful and was not professional.  It's an unfortunate circumstance but it makes me wonder why management did not do anything to ease or prevent the mishap. You have a coworker who is totally heartbroken that his work partner wasn't getting her dues, he posted on his public social media that he will share his view on the matter, but did management try to find a solution to resolve this issue?

At the end of the day, are your employees robots or humans? There has to be a reason for this mass exodus that's happening at KTLA, Mark was probably at a boiling point.  Mark's career will be fine, he's not damaged goods; the public sees this as a person who was sticking up for his fellow colleague, he will get picked up somewhere, his career is bright. 

1 hour ago, FiveNews said:

Sam Rubin just reported that starting Monday, all KTLAs shows will be broadcasting from a temporary set. Their current set, which is still in good shape and 6-7yrs old will be demolished and construction will begin to take place on a new one. Let's pray the new set will not be the requisite Nextstar "set in a corner. Anyone have any insight?

Oh no, that is such a beautiful set and totally agree it is still in good shape. Time surely flies, I can't believe it's that old. Hopefully they don't get a generic set, that would be a downgrade. 

Down here in San Diego, I can name a number of stations that totally need a refresh: KUSI, KGTV, KFMB. At this point, I don't think KUSI will ever demolish what they have. 

Wale Aliyu from Boston 25 is moving to San Diego and joining 10News as a main anchor:

https://twitter.com/WaleAliyu/status/1559753769516154881?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1559753769516154881|twgr^7a1c9827975882976378593b2955aadee4e15eff|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpublish.twitter.com%2F%3Fquery%3Dhttps3A2F2Ftwitter.com2FWaleAliyu2Fstatus2F1559753769516154881widget%3DTweet

8 minutes ago, Nelson R. said:

They could’ve kept Dancing With the Stars on linear…

Totally, but I'm guessing they're trying to attract more subscribers for Disney. ABC has been on the same track with the lack of creativity; they recently had a spin-off for The Goldbergs that only lasted 2 seasons, they are about the launch one for The Rookie this fall and they are branching out with The Good Doctor with a backdoor pilot this coming season. 

This is what happens when there is no innovation or creativity, you become a distant memory. This is the network that built Must See TV, now they are crumbling and shifting their efforts to Peacock. 

Currently, NBC has 6 hours of Dick Wolf, they air The Voice twice a year, and they have no comedy hits. The kids have gone to streaming or You-Tubing, leaving only the oldies watching broadcasting/cable. It's obvious that the next generation of viewers no longer sees broadcasting television as relevant. 

They're not the only ones doing lazy programming, ABC will be airing 4 hours of Bachelor in Paradise this fall and CBS has always relied on cookie-cutter acronym procedurals for the last couple decades. 

On 7/24/2022 at 8:04 AM, nycnewsjunkie said:

I’ve come around to thinking this way myself, but in all likelihood, station groups will continue to add newscasts for the time being. The amount of ad revenue they generate will be attractive to station owners, and they don’t yet see the implications of overworking the staff. There has to be some sort of breaking point for this expansion, but I don’t see it happening yet.

 

If they don’t slash the non-core time-slots entirely, I’d like to see stations do news differently in those time slots. I’d love to see a local Ros Atkins-type analysis show at 4pm, where major stories are broken down/explained, and multiple perspectives are examined.
 

I actually give Tegna a bit of credit for trying alternative newscasts in certain time slots at KUSA and KTVB. I personally wish they would focus more on analysis instead of commentary/opinion, and Kyle Clark can come across as being a bit arrogant at times, but the format seems to work, at least at those stations. Plus, they relieve the pressure on the rest of the staff and make the station stand out.

Crazy as it is seems, but I don't think we will ever see someone on daytime in the league of Oprah ever again. I would love to be proved wrong though. The daytime landscape is different from what it used to be; streaming and social media have taken away daytime television's relevance since you can get entertainment and infotainment anytime in the palm of your hands. Big-name media giants have all tried to replicate the magic with already-established personalities like Anderson, Meredith, Katie to lackluster results. 

With the cable industry being a former shell of itself, I totally see broadcasting going to the wayside eventually and the local news industry evolving to meet customer demand on other platforms. I think that this is the reason why you are seeing more newscasts these days rather than stations investing in a talkshow, it's just easier and affiliates are preparing for a time when their audience will more likely see them on an app, social media or on their Roku box. When we get to that point, are network affiliations be of importance? If you ask KTLA, the answer is "not anymore". 

3 hours ago, Newsjunkie24 said:

 

 

 

Wayne Brady just won Outstanding Game Show Host in this year's Daytime Emmys. Him, Jonathan Mangum, Tiffany Coyne and keyboardist Cat Gray have some of the best chemistry of any game show personalities I've seen. It's one of the best revivals of any game show in recent years, so I expect to see it continue for awhile. 

Been a fan of Wayne Brady ever since his Whose Line Days on ABC and enjoyed his energy on his self-titled prime time and daytime shows.  For some reason, I can never really get into "Let's Make a Deal" which always feels stale and repetitive, I wonder if it's just the style of the set that reeks fluorescence lighting from the 1980s, the cheesy music that lacks texture, or the contestants trying too hard to make an impression.. just never my cup of tea, and I usually enjoy The Price is Right and the other primetime game show revivals. 

But as a treat, this is the website of the first iteration of Wayne Brady Show when it was on ABC primetime: https://web.archive.org/web/20010801144214/http://abc.go.com/primetime/waynebrady/wayne_home.html

If anything, I'm surprised the news program didn't adopt the Today brand, could have easily been called "TODAY in the Afternoon".  

Looks like GMA3 has some competition. Days and GMA3 seems like they were neck-and-neck in the ratings: https://www.soapoperanetwork.com/2022/07/daytime-broadcast-ratings-for-the-week-of-july-11-15-2022

2 hours ago, wabceyewitness said:

CBS Mornings had 4 anchors at the table this morning.  Tony and Nate were joined by Jamie Yuccas and Michelle  Miller   Gayle King has been off this week, however, this morning was the first day 4 people were at the desk with no mention of Gayle. 

Very interesting indeed, especially with sweeps coming up, kinda odd that Gayle took time off, I don't think they ever said where she went. Seems like they are testing other options.

Also interesting that this article came out in the same week: https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/cbs-news-shakes-up-talent-relations-gayle-king-norah-odonnell-1235099429/

I'm still confused in the aspect of their move to Time Square, aren't they in the old TRL space, why isn't part of the set designed with actual views of their new neighborhood? Visually, you really don't know that they are in Time Square, it sort of defeats the purpose of the move if there are no windows to look at.

I also noticed they started reusing the CBS This Morning Eye Opener theme as well for the "your world in 90 seconds" montage.

Not sure if the show actually needs four main anchors, they tried the configuration with Brianna Golodryga a few years ago and that didn't improve ratings.

2 minutes ago, MorningNews said:

Kind of an odd decision, I really wish they’d stop tweaking with the line up and allow some stability.

 

Few things I take issue with in the article: 1. CTM isn’t as silly as the competition on ABC, NBC but the show is far from “hard news.” This lineup change and the move to MTV’s studios will definitely be a notable shift from the show’s launch.

 

2. GMA’s studios haven’t really utilized the Times Square location for some time imo. Home base faces inward, the couch space (when used) faced the southern end of the set away from MTVs, and after introducing the upstairs audience seating they rarely ventured outside for anything. 

I agree, this is a weird move. I always loved the vibe of CTM's studio and it has aged pretty well, I love the use of their circular desk. As a serious news program, they didn't need Times Square. Like you said, there's too much fluff at Time Square and it does seem like CTM will be evolving into another type of program with more fluff? Could we be seeing live performances on during the weekdays?

It will be interesting how ABC and CBS will sensor each other on their telecasts. In the past, ABC used to embrace their views on the area, you could see MTV logos during GMA. Like you said, things have definitely changed, GMA already limits how they use their studio. I remember back in the day, ABC utilized all areas on Time Square Studios: Primetime Thursday was set on the rooftop, Barbara Walters would be hanging out Friday nights on the first floor, and GMA utilized both floors. I'm just glad GMA Weekend is back at Times Square.  I have noticed this week that GMA3 started using the patio space once again.

On 5/27/2021 at 11:23 AM, MidwestTV said:

 

It's a black circle with three letters in it. It isn't really that special of a logo, but I guess of course they're going to try and sell the change as new! fresh! and innovative!. There, I said it. Get back to me when NBC or CBS tries to change up the peacock or eye.

Personally, how does one get a white-collar, ad agency job where you simply tell your client that old is new again? I would love to be paid good money just to shower my fluff of fresh and innovative ideas, seems like a very transformative profession. 

I wonder if Troika is involved once again with their new branding identity?

3 hours ago, Big Rollo Smokes said:

FWIW...

 

Winfrey has a corporate connection to CBS going back to when her syndicator, King World, was purchased by the old CBS in 2000, before the merger with the first Viacom.

 

Her historical connection with ABC was established well before that, starting at WLS-TV in Chicago in 1983.

 

And her early career consisted of stops at (then-) ABC affiliate WJZ-TV in Baltimore, and CBS affiliate WLAC-TV (WTVF) in Nashville. 

True, it always looked like she had a good relationship with King World when the syndicator was independent from CBS. There seemed to be friction towards the end of her talker,  Sony was actually courting Oprah to come over to their side before she officially called it quits. And instead of CBS,  Harpo had launched Dr. Oz and Nate Berkus talkers with Sony instead of CBS during this time. https://deadline.com/2009/11/the-end-of-oprah-as-we-know-her-18362/

Congrats to CBS This Morning. Oprah is still the queen of American television, I wonder if CBS has other ideas for Winfrey going forward. The Gayle King connection was probably a big reason why CBS was able to get the rights to the special. Prior to this, Winfrey's broadcast home has always been ABC, the home of her syndicated series for many years on the O&Os. 

2 hours ago, Daybreak said:

All I am going to say is that George should have saw this coming a while ago. Even if George was the better "serious" anchor, it wasn't realistic for him to continue being their  "Chief Anchor," when David, (like him or not) is number 1 in the evening. It was rather confusing how he would come in late in the evening when David was already their whenever breaking news occurred. I could see the last few months David did not like taking a back seat during breaking news to George. 

 

Also, I do find it curious what rival network would he gone??? I would've advise him take a look at the careers of Josh Elliott, Sam Champion, and Bill Weir. George is good but I don't know if he would fair out like Chris Cuomo (in a sticky situation now), Jake Tapper and Kate Snow which took some time for them to pop at their respective networks. Lowkey now I wondering did this also weighed in as to why Tom Llamas left?!? 

Yeah, I feel like this was probably a contributing factor for Tom Llamas to leave, there's not really much growth if he was aiming to be leading anchor on the weekday line-up in the near future. On GMA, it seems like T.J Holmes will be primed to take over GMA at this point, especially since he was added to GMA3 and he and Robach seem to be the future of the franchise. In the evening, Muir will most likely be anchoring for another decade or two as long as the ratings are strong.  I do wonder if NBC has offered Tom Llamas a role on Today, like on the third hour?

Overall, do you guys think that ABC News will force David and George to do something together just to show the public that they're civil and friendly? Or will this just be one of those things that the network won't really speak about in public kinda like drunk Diane Sawyer from 2012. 

Matt Gutman suspended again:

https://deadline.com/2021/02/matt-gutman-abc-news-covid-19-1234694009/

Congrats to both Linsey and Whit, both deserving of this role! 

9 hours ago, MorningNews said:

Funny that this was mentioned and for the first time in a long time Amy and David anchored tonight’s show.

Yeah, I noticed that too.

1 hour ago, mountainave said:

It's surprising to me that ABC wouldn't bump Muir off 20/20 and open the role for another anchor, simply as a talent retention tool.  But I assume the case is that Muir enjoys retaining the 20/20 anchor role in addition to his WNT duties, if for no other reason than money and/or visibility.

It's the same issue with Stephanopoulos double dipping with GMA and This Week. ABC would have been able to keep Jake Tapper if they gave him This Week all those years ago. 

20/20 is pretty much a shell of its former self and is no longer the multi-topical format that gave us segments like 'Give Me a Break', does anyone really host the current show? Seems like the Friday program became a 2-hour crime docuseries, I don't think Muir or Robach even introduce the story. Looking at the ratings, it looks like the crime series is working. At this point, ABC should give 20/20 another timeslot, like Wednesdays, 10/9c; none of their scripted programming is working at that time period and they would be better off utilizing to talent and resources of ABC News and possibly have a standard newsmagazine format in rotation. 

4 hours ago, Action Newsroom said:

Didn't Elliott go to NBC (News/Sports) in the first place because he wanted George Stephanopoulos' job and more money on GMA (ABC balked at both but he was given a slightly higher paycheck) then jumped ship? He also wanted a high position on Today (probably Matt Lauer's job) and NBC balked. He was lucky to basically get paid to do nothing while at NBC Sports. He never learned to be patient while staying in his own lane.

 

All Llamas should do is do what he's given, do it well and not be a prima donna; he should be fine and grow from there.

Yeah, for the press, Elliott made it seem like wanted to go back to sports, but that never made sense to me since he could have always gone back to ESPN if that was what he was truly saying. If I remember correctly, the executive producer of the Today show (Horowitz) at that time came from ESPN and he was in the midst of redoing the Today show from the ground up and had hoped to put Elliott somewhere in there. Lauer and his minions got word on the situation and revolted to the point that Elliott wasn't really welcomed to Studio 1A and nixed the Today show revamp. NBC Sports didn't really give him much to do and he left soon-after. 

I can see Llamas utilizing his talents for Telemnudo as well and creating content for both English and Spanish networks, but I do wonder if he is gunning for Nightly News when the time comes for Holt to retire.

On 1/25/2021 at 7:43 PM, wabceyewitness said:

 

I suggested replacing Strahan just as a possibility, but 100% agree there are many more better fits already on the ABC bench (Amy Robach, TJ Holmes, Whit Johnson) that deserve Strahan’s seat. 
 

I do wonder what he’ll be doing at NBC News. He was with NBC for 14 years — his entire career — prior to moving to ABC in 2014, so an offer to return already has the “homecoming” incentive. Maybe he’ll be part of MSNBC with some airtime on NBC as well. 

Very interesting and I wonder what exactly NBC has lined up for him. He should be very careful. Just ask Josh Elliott and Sam Champion, both were promised to be featured across all their platforms when they moved to the NBCUniversal family. Elliott had a lot of pushback from the Today show club and wasn't actually utilized well on NBC Sports while Champion sort of flopped with his own morning show at The Weather Channel.  I understand the idea of wanting a new challenge and professional growth, but Llamas had a really great role and had great visibility at ABC News.  

The new desk is very odd.

I personally don't mind seeing legs, has this become a no-no now?  Just saw the movie Bombshell, the characters did talk about the power of leg visualization.  

On 1/14/2021 at 4:48 PM, nickp said:

NickGAS, Toon Disney/Jetix, Vortexx, and Discovery Kids welcome Qubo

I predict they will be joined by Disney XD eventually, judging from their social media platforms which simply promotes Disney+ programming, that channel is a shell of its former self. 

On 1/14/2021 at 1:16 PM, channel2 said:

 

The thing about Qubo is that Scripps would likely have to invest big bucks into it to make it even remotely competitive. That would mean spending big on original programming that they'd either produce in-house or otherwise lock down all the rights to. There would also likely be minimal help from the syndication market, since most of the worthwhile content (at least, animation-wise) is owned by Disney, WarnerMedia, ViacomCBS and NBCUniversal, and I can't imagine most of those companies are all that eager to help. They could perhaps look into old TGIF shows or what have you but I can't imagine they come cheap.

 

Remember The Hub? Not even Hasbro had the acumen or the willingness to spend big to make that network competitive. Were it not for My Little Pony, The Hub would've been even more of a flop than it ended up being.

 

I'm also under the impression that the TV business has more or less given up on children's shows on linear. Cartoon Network has basically packed it in (if only they hadn't ditched the multi-generational angle they had in their salad days!). The Disney Channel and its offshoots seem to be dying on the vine. Nickelodeon is still one of ViacomCBS's crown jewels and that NFL simulcast indicates some sort of self-preservation instinct. The fact that they have so eagerly flogged their '90s heyday and decided that we didn't have our fill of Rugrats in 1999 helps.

 

Scripps bought ION because it's cheap and hugely profitable. Qubo will never be a factor without significant investment, and reruns of 20-year-old Nelvana shows aren't going to cut it.

The mega media companies own the relevant content that they will most likely funnel to their respective streaming services. Qubo is pretty much DOA and I don't blame Scripps for pulling the plug, 

Oh yeah, I remember The Hub! It seemed like Hasbro and Discovery had something special initially. The unfortunate part for them is that Disney grabbed ownership to two intellectual properties that are very important to the Hasbro toy brand, Marvel (late 2009, Discovery and Hasbro announced their joint venture earlier that year) and Star Wars (2012).  Had Mickey Mouse not bought either properties, I'd speculate that Hasbro would  have done all they could to give Marvel and Star Wars top billing on The Hub, which would have most likely been more cartoon shows to promote the respective toy lines. My Little Pony became the only thing The Hub was known for. 

Cable is on their way to join Blockbuster eventually in media heaven.  Internationally, a bunch of Disney Channel networks have closed down or are closing down left and right. The future is streaming for the mega media companies.