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I was surprised to see Savannah in the studio this morning.  I guessing she decided to come home for a couple days to see her kids (11 or 12 days a long time) and repack and get  'homework'  Queen state funeral next wee. . 

With Hoda and Savannah both  testing for Coovid there will probably be no  party or celebration this year. Even if they were there it likely was not gonna  like  in the past (40th, 50th, 50th) where all the former anchors and hosts show up, etc.,. There will probably bee a few clips montage I imagine but nothing major.  They were all suppose to appear at The Paley Center this week on Thursday but I notice this morning the page has been taken down. 

2 hours ago, Kenneth Kissel said:

I don't know if I believe this. It makes the most sense to go to either CBS or PBS and CBS is still the best option of the 2. I don't think Brian will be able to pass David Muir and WNT but I do think he could pass Lester and NN for 2nd place. 

I thought World News was in 2nd? 

I was kind of arise to hear this. after the controversy that led to his exit from Nightly  in 2015, he had reinvented himself at MSNBC and form I heard one of the higher rated shows on MSNBC. I guess he was ready for a change. 

PBS is another possibility. 

Would  Brian actually be willing to go to CBS and become the anchor of CBS Evening News? He would be going up against Nightly News.  That would be like Tom Brokaw  going to ABC to  anchors Worlds News Tonight when Diane left. But I guess you never know,   Ratings would improve quit a bit though, possibly even overtaking ABC.  I doubt he leaving to go to CNN  (obviously not Fox) unless they offered him  insane amount of money money then MSNBC was offering.  Otherwise why  leave one Cable Primetime show for another?  Or maybe ABC. that where everyone seem to be going. 

I have been reading  reading Katie Book and enjoying it so far. I suggest people ignore what has been written about it and read it for yourself. Context is important.  People will read things as they want to sometimes and make assumptions. 

Not sure what Deborah beef is?  Hopefully, she will read the copy for herself that Katie sent. Katie actually has nothing but kinds things to say about her and is even sympathetic about the whole transition and the way it was done and how Deborah was portrayed.

Same with Ashleigh Banfield., Katie never criticize  her. or says that she tried to sabotage her career. The only time Katie mentions her is something her father said (which was not bad at all). Of course he going to think no is as good his daughter.  Katie does says sometimes she felt like had to protect her turf which is reasonable dafter seeing what happened with Jane and as she got odder.  However, she never says (or hints)  that she intentionally  sabotage a career in order to  keep her own.    She never (that she wrote) ever acted cruel  towards any them or mistreated them.  Seems they going by what others are saying  (as I said above)  who are taking the words and turning into something it actually not. 

I sure Robin,, Savannah and Hoda are all protective of their jobs at time.  Who wouldn't be especially in that business?  I remember when Robin went on sick leave  in 2012 when she has MDS ABC sent out a warning not jockey for her spot.   That women who  guest hosted were only filling it temporally 

3 hours ago, carolinanews4 said:

In my opinion, the problems are rooted in the "old school" culture of CBS News. CBS has always prided themselves on valuing substance over style. The presentation - graphics, sets, even the on-air talent always play a distant second to the storytelling. On one hand, I applaud the commitment to substantive enterprise reporting. However, they are competing in a visual medium.  The reason why their primetime has done well is because it entertains. CBS News doesn't care to entertain. Content with no frills. It worked for Cronkite in the 60s and that's where their culture still exists...even if the world around them has changed. 

I agree. Katie Couric alluded to this the other night on the Late Show. Diane   became World News Anchors 3 years later and did fine. Although it was in a solid 2nd place when she got there,  it stayed there.  But Diane also did not have the Perky label like Katie.  DI would argue Katie is better then David. I owner if she has joined  10 years alter and went up against David if maybe she would have done better rating's wise? 

I Want to add that viewing habits are hard to change. And then there 24/7 Cable News (and Social Media),  which has became more  in recant years then ever.    NBC and ABC ratings have dropped as well. 

On 10/27/2021 at 5:10 AM, iron_lion said:

Dan was a solid anchor despite his moments. CBSEN under his tenure was just as good as NNN and WNT, I guess someone had to be in third place and it was him.

 

To me, CBS has remained third because of their competition. Brian Williams had a commanding presence and a narrative delivery style that made me at least want to tune in. Plus, NBC typically had the best presentation. ABC had more recognizable and better fitting anchors: Charles Gibson, Diane Sawyer and David Muir.

 

To me, Couric's tenure inserted too much soft news. Pelly came off as too stiff, Jeff Glor wasn't well known enough, and Norah is just another face trying the same format. She was better in the AM with Gayle.

Yes. The transition form Brokaw  to Williams in 2004, (nd I might Couric to Vieira on TODAY  in 2006 in which NBC went outside the network and took her away form ABC), was almost ridiculous because of how smooth sailing those transitions were.  Those shows stayed in their first place spot. Very seamless. unfortunate  some NBC more recent transients have gone over as well.  

56 minutes ago, Newsjunkie24 said:

 

Unfortunately, Norah is struggling in the ratings as well. I wonder which news anchor has the best chance of getting the CBSEN out of it's long-troubled 3rd place rating? 

It interesting isn't it? They are number 1 in Daytime, Late Nights, Primetime Newsmagazines shows and Primetime in general.  So why does it seem like they always struggle in Morning News (aside form CBS Sunday) and The Evening News? You know it must be driving them nits. 

Dan Rather was in  2nd place (I think?) in the 1990s.  My first thought is Not enough stability since he left. There been 4 Co-anchors since he left 15 years ago.  That a new anchor about every 3 years on average. My second though is problems or issues internally that maybe hasn't come to light.  

On 10/23/2021 at 4:13 PM, MorningNews said:

Savannah for as nice as she seems is just one of the weaker anchors in the show’s storied history imo.

I think she does better with the hard news stuff. It the lighter fare (unless of  course she interviewing her idol Katie), where I think she struggles sometimes (especially cooking segments). This is where Hoda does a better job.  I do  think she has  grown a bit more into the role since Matt left. 

About Katie book: Despite some of the negative attention it has gotten I do plan on reading it.  I watching her interview last week on TODAY and was thinking that I would rather a person who writing about their life  is honest and not peachy about everything and pretends  they liked every person that ever met.  Cause that not possible. I think we et  too use sometimes to these "nice nice"" memoirs..  Context is also important nit just bits and pieces that is given to us 

Interesting. in 2009 and 010, Ann Curry, Natalie Morales,, Savannah Guthrie, Amy Robach, Norah O'Donnell and Erin Burnett were al either seen as potential successors to Meredith  on TODAY Show or were rising starts in the industry.  Now Savannah has been TODAY Show Co-anchor  for 9 years,  Norah is now the anchor of CBS Evening News, Amy is the co-anchor or 20/20,  Erin  has a primetime show on CNN. Ann  Curry is doing documentaries on PBS. . 

Natalie? Will she now on the talk.. A "View" wannabe  copycat is way more gossipy and celerity oriented. What happened? well et be hoses here she has never really been seen as a hard news journalist. A lot of that is probably the fault of NBC. They never really treated her fairly or gave a lot of hard news assignment. She never fit on access Hollywood. 

The reason she  ended up in L.A is because her husband got a job offer. Things were changing at NBC.  So they decided to take it. In order to keep her at the network they gave her Access Hollywood and  made her West Coast Correspondent.  Kind of like Ann  "senior correspond" role she didn't do a lot with it so probably a little more then Ann.  You at  least saw Natalie periodically on the show show whether in L.A or NYC.  I don't think NBC really knew what to do with either nd with Ann thee was a lot of awkwardness after what transpired. 

Certainly. Foreign reporters and journalists are mostly  confined to their hotels and sets. Unless previous Olympics they  really can’t go out and explore like they been able to in the past due to COVID.   
 

Savannah was in Tokyo fir 6 days before the opening ceremony. Seeing as she and Hods have young kids they probably didn’t want to be away for long. 

Savannah, Honda and Al are back in New York 

Well for starters:  the entire American TV Viewing  Audience has dropped as a whole.  Morning Shows is not the only genre or day part  that has seen it ratings drop. Sunday Shows, Evening News Shows, Daytime Shows, Late Night and even Primetime have seen ratings slip as a whole.  
 

There is of course a lot of options now then there were 10-15 years ago and different ways to watch to watch tv shows. With Morning Shows people can live stream on tablets, computers, phones, etc,. Without having to turn on the TV. People can now DVR and of course wait until full episodes of morning shows are posted online to watch them.  Not including Sporting Events and major news events TODAY Show has not averaged 6.5 million viewers on daily basic in at least 20 years.   2.4 Million is not unusual for CBS although not to recently they were getting 3.6 million on a daily basic the best a CBS Morning Show had ever done.  
 

Morning Shows ratings always tend to drop in the summer and then recover some of it lost viewership in the fall. 
 

However I do think COVID is to blame for more recent lost viewership. I think people are “Covid-out” tbh. That and the Election  has practically been the only thing these shows have covered over the last year be I know they were the two big new stories last year but for many weeks Covid was non stop.  I think people got tired after awhile and had no interest in watching the host do the show from home and celebrities (far on between” doing virtual interviews also from home.  Also the constant coverage on Trump and the 2020 Election (some of which might be bias depending on your viewed) has probably turned some off.  People are Covid fatigued and Election fatigued.    TODAY and GMA were averaging 3.9-4.5 (1980s average) million before Covid hit. When life finally get back to 2019 normalcy and covid is thing of the pass and the shows get back fully to normal I think they will recover some of their lost viewership. Of course it won’t be 2000s or early 2010s level. 
 

these shows have always  lighter side however they gotten even more fluff over the last 15 years or so. Also the way the fluff is presented has changed. If that make sense 

17 minutes ago, newseider said:

Could a refresh be coming to 1A? I noticed on the outside shot out of the open this morning, 1A was all boarded up. They also did the show from the big wall area only. Not sure if they are renovating or it’s boarded up for post election reasons?

Because of the Pandemic. 

7 minutes ago, MorningNews said:

Barbara has dementia? Wow, I hadn’t heard that but it might explain why we have no seen her at all in any capacity since retiring.

Yes.  Her last public appearance  was in 2016. she is currently confined to to her apartment  and allows almost no visitors except for close family.  Very sad! 

Her family and  manager had not   made a public statement about it. Biggest dictator is that last year Sheri Sphered and Jenny McCarthy made comments last year suggesting she not doing well. A Big indicator of her deteriorating  health was the death of Hugh Downs and Regis Philbin this year. She and Hugh had been friends and working partners for 50 years or so. She was also very  good friends with Regis for decades.  She did not make any kind of  statement on either of their death and no statement was ever put out  on her behalf about their death. 

About TODAY Show 70th anniversary.  We may end up only with  Jim Hartz,  Tom Brokaw, Jane Pauley, Bryant Gumble, Deborah Norville, Katie Couric and Meredith Vieria showing up.  Huge Downs died  this year. Barbra Walters has Dementia and is not doing well. She may not be around by then.  If she alive she won't be able to attend anyway.   

I be surprised if Matt showed up. He may not even be invited at all which is a real shame (but I guess understanble)  as he was on the show for 23 years of which he was co-ancho for 20  (during which for most of the time the show  had  it greatest Ratings and longest streak at Number ),  and was a face of the TODAY  Show for the better part of the last  12 years he was there.   I could see Ann curry being invited but whether she decide to attend is another question.  There is now a whole new  management (couple times actually)  in place at TODAY Show and NBC News since 2012.  .  

Depending on how much of an issue COVID is by then  it may be scrapped all together however experts are predicting that life will (hopeful!) get back to pre COVID normalcy by the end of  next year.  It could also be a more scaled down affair form 2012.  Certainly  any type of celebration and whoever shows up there will be that "elephant"  in the room.  Ann removal and Matt firing. 

The reason Savannah is still at home I think is because of her eyes not having completely recovered. She still need more surgery  but at the moment that been put on hold due to the pandemic.  That could also be considered a underlying health issues. She told Ellen that she still see blurry spots.  I would not be surprised if it not until this fall that she back in stud 1A.  But Al, Jenna and Craig are still doing the show from home too so she not the only one.   

Why are Craig and Hoda still appearing in the studio?  everyone  else is at home. 

The Live Audience for Hoda and Jenna has been suspended and the Plaza is now closed to visitors because of  the COVID-19 Pandmeic. https://www.today.com/news/today-show-live-audiences-suspended-due-coronavirus-t175664

1 hour ago, Action Newsroom said:

I decided to watch the entire interview and I came to the conclusion that Gayle didn't do anything absolutely wrong. Yes, she did not have to ask Ms. Leslie about Kobe's rape allegations so soon after his passing. But she was well within her right to ask anyway, and the angle she went with the question was very fair.

 

I think everyone whom knocked King (also well within their right to come to their own conclusions about the questions she asked, correct context or no) went supremely overboard after that clip of the interview hit social media. Some, according to Oprah, are now launching death threats against her. She does not deserve this, and those who lauched those threats instead of taking time to actually watch the interview after the fact can shove them up theirs.

 

Except some did years earlier. Gayle just wasn't one of them.

It is not easy to report a rape or throw an accusation when the law will somehow take the rapists side and not the victim's, and (if/when news gets out) the public will mostly accuse the victim of everything under the sun, especially wanting the man's money. And if you were victimized by a famous male luminary, don't expect the process to be any more easier-- even if the victims themself is also famous. That is just a few reasons many women - let alone the women accusing Cosby for many years - don't report right away.

 

And another thing, I'm tired of people saying stuff like this about some famous black men being accused of sex crimes when some famous white men do the same. If famous black men (and pretty much all men in general) don't do and/or get accused of sex crimes in the first place, we wouldn't be having this discussion. And those more than probably wouldn't have asked those men anyway as you for certain wouldn't have gotten the chance anyway.

Gayle has had DECADES of experience in the media before even starting CBS This Morning - she started at WJZ in the late 70s. You not knowing this very easy fact is really distressing. 

That  was not my question or what I am talking about.  i understand why the women didn't report it for many years. 

My questions is why did People particularly in the Meeia not keep mentioning Cosby seuxal assult and rape accusaitons prior to 2015? It was pretty much swept under the rug in 2006 after he settled with 11 women. No one seems to care and  most forgot about it or just acted like they amnesia.  When he got  awards during those years or did interviews I don't recall people bringing those charges  'up? or calling him a rapist.  

Social Media probably played a big part but suddenly in 2014 everyone cared?  I remember when he was  accused back in 2005.. 

Gayle is getting a lot of backlash. for this   https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/02/05/kobe-bryant-gayle-king-sparks-outrage-questions-rape-charge/4672566002/ 

My question is...

Why didn't Gayle  (and everyone in the Media) question Bill Cosby In 2012 and 2013 and before and bring up prior accusations against him? Cosby allegations of rape and sexual assault had been well known and documented for many years before it exploded in 2014. Remember he settled a civil lawsuit with 11 women in 2006. There was also the women who accuse him of sexual assault in 2000. Why wasn't anyone talking about that until it resurfaced in 2014 (and 50 more women came forward to accuse him) and then acted shocked like they had just heard it for the first time?  

I   think  the content on The TODAY Show first 2 hours is better now than it was between 2008 and 2013.  The format/tone 10-15 years ago is a bit outdated now. 

Remember there are other ways to watch the show now. People can not DVR it and also watch it online later.  Ratings only count homes  not business like hospitals, gym, etc,. We live in much fast apce society.  There probably other reasons why people are not watching these shows like they used to but I am not going to get into that aspect of it here. 

Someone awhile back said they were surprised that Al is still on this show. Honestly, I am not. The person who I am most surprise that has lasted is Carson Daly. He been on the show fo six years now (which I didn't realize until today tha it been that long) and does not seem like he will be leaving anytime soon (which is part of why I think he left his late night show)  but I will say he  has grown into his role on the show very well. I know at the time lot o people has skepticism but he has turned out to be solid addition in the long run I think.  

Natalie and Maria should do a AncestryDNA test. they look too much alike lol 

On 6/25/2019 at 8:52 PM, C Block said:

 

I also think Campbell Brown would have been a good and likely pick. I was always a fan of hers. I don't think it's a coincidence that she left for CNN shortly after Meredith started. She must have had an out in her contract.

I forgot about Campbell Brown. She would have been a good choice too, Sadly her career has hit a stalemate since leaving CNN. I miss seeing her on TV.  I think you right, she probably left NBC  after because she was passed over for a job on Weekday TODAY Show. 

It sad that  Weekend Anchors are often overlook when it comes ot co-hosting Jobs on The weekday show: Jodi Applegate and Soledad O'Brien  in the late 90s to mid 2000s  were the two of the  likely successor to Katie Couric for awhile for several years.  Jodi Applegate career like Campbell  also seem to hit a stalemate or they are just taking a break but they both left NBC after Kaaie signed new contract.  They both co-hosted Weekend TODAY at different times.  Soledad has had better luck though it seems

Amy Robach has often made it clear that the  main reason she left  Sunday TODAY and NBC was because she kept being passed over for a job on Weekday TODAY which is what she really wanted. She wrote in her book that she wanted the 9am Job in 2011 which eventually went to Savannah. Se  was using the weekend show as a stepping stone to get a permanent role on the weekday one.  she doing  very well at ABC now.  

I like when Maria Shriver appear on The TODAY Show.   I think if Arnold Schwarzenegger had not been Governor of California, She would have gotten a co-host job on TODAY at some point.. She would have been a fine replacement for Katie back in 2006 but Meredith was great though.  Or if things had gone differently she could have replaced Meredith in 2011.