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50 minutes ago, qunewsguy said:

The package looks good overall but you can sort of tell it took years to finally implement. Some of the design trends used here are now a tad bit past their prime (arrows opening up sliding elements, semi-webpage looking animation cues). Also I'm seeing some very minor similarities to the CBS O&O look, likely owing to the fact that Wendy McMahon was the driving force behind both.

Those are fair points, but the package is still a massive upgrade for pretty much all of those stations (esp. WABC). Imo, it’s still on par w/ the other major network O&Os, and it looks far better than the packages the major station groups have put on their stations.

On 6/13/2023 at 4:03 PM, speed053 said:

Just turned on my mother's TV and saw the new graphics at WLS.

 

I think that WLS now uses Gari's Eyewitness News music package full time and the Stimulus news music package appears to be retired.

I’m not sure about that; the intro cut of music has the NS2000 signature tacked on at the end. It sounds as if it’s an old cut that’s never been used by anyone before.

EDIT: Here’s the video

25 minutes ago, MediaZone4K said:

More good stuff: Send off video for WABC assistant news director in the nineties. Very WGN Morning News satirical feel to it, lol. NJ Burkett's Tim Milton impression was spot on (1993)

 

Is that the same David Friend who went on to CBS? If so, that certainly aged…

50 minutes ago, nynewsguy said:

Jim Rosenfield, formerly of WCBS and WNBC - most recently of WCAU was in the building today. Not that it necessarily means anything - but he did a test with Shirleen. 

Interesting…he did say he was moving to NY, and he’d be a great pick up for WABC.

18 hours ago, Horizon said:

Of course, the bad side of it is people are losing their jobs. The good side of it is there's gonna be new people to make sure that the graphics stick along with the guidelines for all stations without anyone doing anything weird that would catch folks eyes here, like messing up the fonts, logos, headline graphics that don't match the theme of it, etc. 

 

Maybe if the folks that were fired would've been trained, and do it right, there wouldn't be any need for that.

No offense, but I have no clue where you’re getting that idea. They’re gutting and centralizing creative services to cut costs; they aren’t going to eliminate positions only to fill them up again with new people. It’s got nothing to do with some guy getting the font wrong at a particular station; as others mentioned, the people being let go are more than qualified for their positions.

12 minutes ago, mrschimpf said:

(shh don't tell Antonio Brown).

Nexstar may be cheap, but they’re not stupid lol

37 minutes ago, mrschimpf said:

I still don't understand what they're going to merge...the team golf concept nobody understands or has any loyalty to, or making LIV a part of the FedEx Cup? The Champions Tour just being yeeted out of existence?

I am just left with more questions than answers about what this merger will do except confuse the rights holders, the PGA loyalists, and the clubs that host events already on the edge (your BC Opens) who may lose their tour stops. Maybe this is more PGA tossing money at LIV to just go away and get back to normal than anything.

The press release made it sound like the LIV Tour would continue as an independent tour under this new PGA/PIF consortium. However, if prominent LIV golfers switch back to the PGA Tour, I don’t know how that format sustains itself unless it’s some sort of second-tier tour. In any case, the PGA gets a massive cash infusion and the Saudis can exert their soft power over the PGA itself. The broadcasters must be fuming right now.

1 hour ago, NowBergen said:

This means not only the PGA tour, but CBS Sports, NBC Sports and Golf Channel (NBCU) are willing to accept Saudi blood money and promote events at trump properties. Ouch!!!

Nope. They weren’t privy to the merger.

Broadcasters aren’t all-knowing, all-seeing overlords of the leagues they broadcast. Even the players were blindsided.

56 minutes ago, PTVNews said:

It's basically Bill Weir's beat. He fronts his reports live from some pretty interesting locations.

Gotcha. I don’t think that kind of reporting is bad at all; it’s the other BS that bothers me.

13 minutes ago, Daybreak said:

What exactly did he say to get staffers so upset? 

Pretty much the fact that he gave exclusive access to Tim Alberta at The Atlantic, and effectively made himself the center of attention. If you’re able to read the full Atlantic piece on Licht, that provides full context.

6 hours ago, MediaZone4K said:

-diversify network coverage outside of politics, climate change, and the usual stuff

When’s the last time CNN has even mentioned climate change? If anything that’s a story they need to cover more of.
 

Otherwise I agree with your suggestions; they’re still politics-heavy under Licht, and that should change. I’d add that we really don’t need the endless parade of political pundits during dayside programming.
 

However, can we honestly say that people would watch the network even if they followed through with all of that? People looking for impartial news coverage and thorough explainers aren’t going to cable news; if they were, BBC News and France 24 would be in demand. I get the impression that the average cable news viewer is just looking to be pandered to. Perhaps it didn’t have to be that way, but you can blame the cable networks, including CNN, for making it that way.

1 hour ago, Nelson R. said:

You and me both! Someone please just buy the stations already! 

Or don’t, and just leave Tegna the hell alone as long as they’re profitable and able to operate. But yeah, I agree, Jessel is a rather embarrassing read imo.

8 minutes ago, mightynine said:

I believe this is still that typeface, just a thinner, narrower weight.

 

There's some spacing issues to me, especially when you go to the two line identifier, that make things look a little TOO thin.

 

But put it next to the old look, and I'd have to say the new look is cleaner:

 

 

Now that you point out the comparison, I can see two positives. The ticker looks good, especially because it isn’t just a constant crawl of doom anymore. Also, I appreciate the fact that they’re no longer putting every damn headline in all caps. It still looks really outdated to me, though, and I think they could’ve done a far better job than they did.

11 hours ago, mightynine said:

The surrounding animations around the standard MLBN graphics set for the Padres sure seem pretty easy to adapt for any other team.

 

Guessing MLB made a quick and dirty set to have ready and perhaps something a bit more bespoke would be rolled out next season. Maybe with a full-on MLBN revamp that’s needed, IMO. 

Yeah, MLB clearly had well-founded contingency plans for this scenario, and it’s impressive that they were able to put something that polished on the air in such a short time. Honestly, even if the Padres find a permanent OTA/cable partner, I could see MLB continuing to produce the games.

2 hours ago, Geoffrey said:

My first reaction when we saw the off-angle screenshot the other week was to not like them. I need to see them a little longer to get a feel. But overall these feel like fan-made mock-ups to me with some corners rounded.

You could honestly stop right there. The new graphics look about as cheap as David Zaslav himself. I’m not gonna lie; I think the 2011 graphics look far better than this.
 

Granted, I am glad that CNN’s actual content has shifted to the center, but it’s still not all that watchable for me. A new set of graphics (and poorly designed ones, at that) doesn’t change that they’re often just as sensationalist as every other American cable news channel.

55 minutes ago, GodfreyGR said:

Ami late to the game on this? Or did the ABC logo bug just get smaller?

I actually noticed it last week when they were airing “Shang-Chi”; I figured it was a one-off but I guess not

I think it’s an improvement; the old bug was far too big imo and I found it distracting. People watch TV to see the programs, not to look at the bug.

3 hours ago, MichiganNewsGraphicsJunkie said:

OMG ABC O&O has got to be the slowest ever in rolling out stuff... This has been going on for way too long.  We've been talking about this for 2 frickin' years and barely 1/2 the stations have flipped to the new weather graphics... 

I’d rather it take forever and be done right than having it take 8 months and be done completely wrong.

20 hours ago, wabceyewitness said:

The “wake up with..” is not too new, but updated to have Ken edited out. 

A more recent promo (“a new day is a new start! Start new with…”) has also been edited to remove Ken. 
 

 

crazy idea: I think WABC shouldn’t replace Ken and should instead elevate Heather and Sam to co-anchors. Go the route of GMA with three anchors and just have Heather and Sam trade off some of the stories with Shirleen being the main “news” person. 

I’m going to have to agree with @MorningNews; if channel 7 weren’t number 1 in the morning, this would be a fantastic experiment to try out, but right now it would be unwise for them to mess with what works.
 

I feel like this kind of thing works well as a mid-morning show, though.

18 hours ago, 24994J said:

 

Really, what is their deal, over there? BY MY COUNT (let me know if anything has changed), KTRK puts out 9.5 hours of news, each weekday, as do KABC and WPVI, and yet they have way more anchors. Outside of the morning shows and whatever role Simon is taking on at 10pm on 13, note that 3rd anchors (looking at you, 6abc) are in contributing roles. The question mark count is also for where there are apparent vacancies. I know some of the KTRK folks have other on-air roles, like Winkler and Rivas, but goodness, they're an insanely bloated operation.

 

Is it me or do they have trouble deciding what slots to give their meteorologists? Travis Herzog is their chief, yet he was working nights this past weekend. Not to mention, if you’ve never seen their mid-morning stream, it is not a well put together newscast at all imo.

2 minutes ago, mre29 said:

People who work nights?

 

I know if I was working nights, I'd prefer early morning news over infomercials any day.

You know what, that’s a good point actually; I’m sorry it skipped my mind. To be fair though, WSVN does air a repeat of the late news during that time, so those viewers do still get relatively (depending on the story) up to-date news, even if it isn’t live.

5 hours ago, newscopter7 said:

I don’t know that it’s fair to through WCBS in the same category as KCBS and WBBM. I think they’ve worked hard at recovering from the 1996 massacre and having become a competitor again. 

 

The new music may work for some stations, but it’s too light for New York. It’s why WABC has stuck with the 1999 version of the Eyewitness News theme. The version KABC uses is way too light for NYC. 

I know Dimensional (or at least, the one cut most of the stations use) has a bit of a relaxed vibe that doesn’t mesh with the other NYC stations, but it arguably works ok for WCBS. Channel 2 isn’t nearly as tabloid (for lack of a better word) as channel 7.

4 hours ago, mrschimpf said:

They could've noted that before they made the music final, and get a custom cut then. When you go with random themes based on 'vibes' you lose the trust of those who build the newscast out and the average viewer who is just over every time period having to lead off with doom and gloom because of one guy's decision to be out of compliance.

Eh, Idk about that; it’s not like they’ve gone full-on WSVN-style tabloid with their story selection just because of a music change during the open. Although, there is a problem in that the music sounds really awkward when the headline is about how nice the weather’s going to be like.

9 hours ago, T.L. Hughes said:

When I first read this, I thought, "they should really be expanding their morning newscasts into the 4:00 a.m. hour, not the 10:00 a.m. hour." It doesn't make sense for a top-50-market station to not have their morning news start before 5:00 a.m. these days. (I still think it's weird KOKH is the only English-language news operation in OKC that starts its morning news at 5:00, while the Big Three affiliates start theirs at 4:00 or 4:30 a.m.)

Funny you mentioned that; my first thought was “thank God it’s 10am and not 4am.” I know it’s become conventional for stations to start at 4 or 4:30am, but is there really that much of an audience there? Granted, most people are at work by 10am, but you can at least get stay at home moms/workers and people in waiting rooms to watch you.

11 minutes ago, RaleighTVBOI1 said:

Yeah but the topic is about Shirleen Alicot it think we should be respectful about his allegation it's might be true. It only takes one person to come out before everyone else does. Camille Edwards was the ND a few years ago who got axes for toxic work environment.

That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. For the love of all things holy, can we stop already?

1 hour ago, nynewsguy said:

Listen guys -

I said Ken was fired for cause. What he said wasn’t right. It’s a disgusting word to use, let alone call someone. 
what I said was that SA has been the same person for 20 years. She is not the nicest person. She knows how to be fake.  If she doesn’t feel like she can gain something from you - she’s not very friendly. 

Evidence?

EDIT: Shouldn’t have even asked. It’s baseless and it’s being pulled out of you know where.

8 hours ago, mre29 said:

Because why not?

 

First up: Sunbeam-Owned WSVN Miami, WHDH Boston Add Hour of Morning News

 

 

That's a lot of news.

 

 

Wait... they have a general manager for each station and one for the company as a whole?

 

That has to be a typo or something. Magnes is WSVN’s GM.

12 hours a day is certainly overkill, but if any stations are going to follow the KVVU model of filling up more than half the day’s schedule with news, it’s these two.

4 hours ago, SFTV said:

Well that didn’t last long. I’m surprised they didn’t utilize the other tracks like KPIX uses.  

The production track is just for some of the opens; Dimensional is still being used when going to commercial breaks. But yeah, I totally agree.