Samantha 2895 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Signature's station portfolio is dwindling slowly, to the point where it's used on fewer than ten separate news operations. Bonten's KRCR-KAEF-KCVU-etc. and KTXS-KTXE are using it, as are Nexstar's KOLR-KOZL, WCIA-WCIX, WHOI, WHBF, and WBGH-WIVT (the latter as of January). One additional NMSA listing is for a rebroadcast of WXOW, which has changed themes several times since, and I can't even verify if the station still is rebroadcasting that newscast. WGXA-DT2 stopped using Signature as a result of the station using the Sinclair News Package for all newscasts. (They still are one of Sinclair's technical bottom feeders.) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15828-is-it-time-to-start-the-signature-death-watch/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ntropolis 596 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Inergy and Aerial are the new Signature and Counterpoint... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15828-is-it-time-to-start-the-signature-death-watch/#findComment-179726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClementeFan69 477 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Signature's station portfolio is dwindling slowly, to the point where it's used on fewer than ten separate news operations. Bonten's KRCR-KAEF-KCVU-etc. and KTXS-KTXE are using it, as are Nexstar's KOLR-KOZL, WCIA-WCIX, WHOI, WHBF, and WBGH-WIVT (the latter as of January). One additional NMSA listing is for a rebroadcast of WXOW, which has changed themes several times since, and I can't even verify if the station still is rebroadcasting that newscast. WGXA-DT2 stopped using Signature as a result of the station using the Sinclair News Package for all newscasts. (They still are one of Sinclair's technical bottom feeders.) Seems like This Is Your News (now only used on KBTX) is on more of a death watch. Shoutout to KRDO and KJCT for saving Counterpoint from imminent news music death a few years back. I've always found Signature to be kind of a dated package to have hung around for so long. Sounds a lot more dated than Counterpoint, TIYN, News One, etc. IMO Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15828-is-it-time-to-start-the-signature-death-watch/#findComment-179737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2415 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Seems like This Is Your News (now only used on KBTX) is on more of a death watch. Shoutout to KRDO and KJCT for saving Counterpoint from imminent news music death a few years back. I've always found Signature to be kind of a dated package to have hung around for so long. Sounds a lot more dated than Counterpoint, TIYN, News One, etc. IMO Apparently, KLST is still using Counterpoint according to NMSA. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15828-is-it-time-to-start-the-signature-death-watch/#findComment-179739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClementeFan69 477 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Apparently, KLST is still using Counterpoint according to NMSA. So there's three. lol Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15828-is-it-time-to-start-the-signature-death-watch/#findComment-179741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClementeFan69 477 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Being in the news music graveyard doesn't necessarily mean a pack is dead forever though. Think KXLY/KAPP/KVEW's 2016 resurrection of The Rainmaker (functionally dead since 2003) or WLNS's 2015 resurrection of Millennium News (dead since 2009)... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15828-is-it-time-to-start-the-signature-death-watch/#findComment-179742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2415 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Being in the news music graveyard doesn't necessarily mean a pack is dead forever though. Think KXLY/KAPP/KVEW's 2016 resurrection of The Rainmaker (functionally dead since 2003) or WLNS's 2015 resurrection of Millennium News (dead since 2009)... Just saw NMSA and apparently that package was only available in Indianapolis and dead actually since 2013 (thank the SkyTrak Weather Network for that) until KXLY and its Tri-Cities duopoly decided to pick it up and resurrect it from the dead. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15828-is-it-time-to-start-the-signature-death-watch/#findComment-179743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsn8te 200 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 It'd be nice to hear some brand new themes for Signature. I do agree that the package is a little dated. Even the cuts that WCIA, KOLR, etc.. use don't sound that great any more. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15828-is-it-time-to-start-the-signature-death-watch/#findComment-179775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClementeFan69 477 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Just saw NMSA and apparently that package was only available in Indianapolis and dead actually since 2013 (thank the SkyTrak Weather Network for that) until KXLY and its Tri-Cities duopoly decided to pick it up and resurrect it from the dead. Called it "functionally" dead since 03 because I don't really count SkyTrak using a few cuts of it(?) as real use. It's like when the NMSA lists those college TV stations. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15828-is-it-time-to-start-the-signature-death-watch/#findComment-179790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Well, once Bonten deal closes, it would only be a matter of time before they switch to the Glass and Curves. That's a given. And WHOI, well WEEK-DT2 (branded as HOI News) is owned by Quincy. But I thought it would make some cosmetic changes for the ABC affil, just like they did with the main NBC channel. Maybe in the future? WIVT/WBGH just recently switch to Signature, after using a Gari relic for a really long time. And WHBF switched to the theme a couple of years ago. So I don't these three will switch any time soon. If there's any other music packages that's on a deathwatch, how about Metropolis. Sure they debuted a decade after Signature, but a far few outlets are using the theme (KEYC, KGUN/KWBA, Fios 1). And basically any Gari theme that's not Eyewitness News, Enforcer or This Is Home (unless Tegna drops it en masse) could be on its own deathwatch. There are a few stations left using Image (WSOC/WAXN, WLNY, KCAL 9), Advantage (WFSB, WGGB/WSHM, WLUC (Are the Brady Northwest Fox still using it?)) and even The One and Only (WPLG, KSAT, KUSI, KATC, WLOV?). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15828-is-it-time-to-start-the-signature-death-watch/#findComment-180053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2415 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Well, once Bonten deal closes, it would only be a matter of time before they switch to the Glass and Curves. That's a given. And WHOI, well WEEK-DT2 (branded as HOI News) is owned by Quincy. But I thought it would make some cosmetic changes for the ABC affil, just like they did with the main NBC channel. Maybe in the future? WIVT/WBGH just recently switch to Signature, after using a Gari relic for a really long time. And WHBF switched to the theme a couple of years ago. So I don't these three will switch any time soon. If there's any other music packages that's on a deathwatch, how about Metropolis. Sure they debuted a decade after Signature, but a far few outlets are using the theme (KEYC, KGUN/KWBA, Fios 1). And basically any Gari theme that's not Eyewitness News, Enforcer or This Is Home (unless Tegna drops it en masse) could be on its own deathwatch. There are a few stations left using Image (WSOC/WAXN, WLNY, KCAL 9), Advantage (WFSB, WGGB/WSHM, WLUC (Are the Brady Northwest Fox still using it?)) and even The One and Only (WPLG, KSAT, KUSI, WLOV?). Eventually, KGUN/KWBA will dump Metropolis for Inergy so might as well scratch that one out. Don't forget KATC and WLUC 6.2 for The One and Only and yes: KAYU/KCYU/KFFX and KMVU are still using Advantage. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15828-is-it-time-to-start-the-signature-death-watch/#findComment-180055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MXSans2 64 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Battery V.4 is residing at one station, which is WCBI. They could get a new package soon, but you know, Morris owns WCBI. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15828-is-it-time-to-start-the-signature-death-watch/#findComment-180160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MXSans2 64 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 You can also (maybe) put Newsforce on the list. WPRI might get a new package soon. But MUTV might not give it up yet. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15828-is-it-time-to-start-the-signature-death-watch/#findComment-180161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClementeFan69 477 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 You can also (maybe) put Newsforce on the list. WPRI might get a new package soon. But MUTV might not give it up yet. I don't really think some college TV station using a package really counts tbh. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15828-is-it-time-to-start-the-signature-death-watch/#findComment-180219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad 113 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 NBC - Flagship can also be added to the list. It's a great package, but now only WICU uses it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15828-is-it-time-to-start-the-signature-death-watch/#findComment-185456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 NBC - Flagship can also be added to the list. It's a great package, but now only WICU uses it. I thought WICU uses This Is Home (w/WSEE) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15828-is-it-time-to-start-the-signature-death-watch/#findComment-185557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2415 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I thought WICU uses This Is Home (w/WSEE) Correct. WICU/WSEE does use This is Home as of 2015 by a check of the NMSA database. That was done when WICU/WSEE finally decided to simulcast each other on some newscasts (mainly 6-7am, 6-6:30pm and 11-11:35pm). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15828-is-it-time-to-start-the-signature-death-watch/#findComment-185562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsn1992 25 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I don't really think some college TV station using a package really counts tbh. Even at that, MUTV hasn't used it since 2011. (I was in charge of one of the departments when I was in school there.. we didn't even use it.) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15828-is-it-time-to-start-the-signature-death-watch/#findComment-185565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad 113 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Correct. WICU/WSEE does use This is Home as of 2015 by a check of the NMSA database. That was done when WICU/WSEE finally decided to simulcast each other on some newscasts (mainly 6-7am, 6-6:30pm and 11-11:35pm). Then, R.I.P. Flagship 2004-2015. You will be missed. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15828-is-it-time-to-start-the-signature-death-watch/#findComment-185786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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