Ntropolis 596 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HQtnXzf4sM Very nice. New logo too. Is that theme new? Did they ever use Newswire? Whatever it is, it's very cheap-sounding... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennTV1983 804 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Well, at least we now know what Gannett's new graphics look like. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ntropolis 596 Posted September 28, 2008 Author Share Posted September 28, 2008 Well, at least we now know what Gannett's new graphics look like. Ha... that never entered my mind! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1916 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 What a awful open. It's the same thing from two different angles. Way to go whoever made this! And the graphics look like a cheap knock off of WNBC. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qunewsguy 377 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Ewwwww. Just... ewwwww. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstNews8 13 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 This isnt good at all.... the logo is nice,but the grfx are way too BBCish, the open is WAY too plain... music is bad.... really bad... and there is no style in this open. Very bad. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsguy 0 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Not impressed...I guess firing the support artists across the group wasn't such a good idea. You can never replace the human touch when it comes to design. I wonder how much they "saved" by filling Chyron's pockets with money instead of some poor college kids. Whoever arranged this probably got a big kickback. These graphics are not well done. Overcrowded, noisy, tasteless...my eyes don't know what to look at..Don't even get me started about the open. Horrible...thumbs down Gannett Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightynine 290 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 So, do you think they eventually update the weather intro to include the new logo? Yeah, those are kinda just...there. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRAP-TV 146 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 The music is disgusting. The graphics are making me dizzy. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjohnson 17 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 First, What's wrong with BBC News' graphics? There's nothing wrong with the BBC News' VizRT graphics. It would have helped if they were going to rip off Lambie-Nairn's work, they could have done a better job...This is horrid looking...It looks like they let somebody loose in the effects toolbox, they said: "I've go to use all of these effects! They're so neat!" Result: Overly shiny, overly, exposed graphics... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstNews8 13 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I see no connection to the community in these grfx, no connection to the station (aside from the logo)... this is sad very sad.... And the music.... the worst ive ever heard. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMA 135 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 This isnt good at all.... the logo is nice,but the grfx are way too BBCish, the open is WAY too plain... music is bad.... really bad... and there is no style in this open. Very bad. It doesn't really look like BBC News, at all: http://www2.tv-ark.org.uk/news/bbcnews24/2008.html# Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProButtonPusher 230 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 What a awful open. It's the same thing from two different angles. Way to go whoever made this! And the graphics look like a cheap knock off of WNBC. I see no connection to the community in these grfx, no connection to the station (aside from the logo)... this is sad very sad.... And the music.... the worst ive ever heard. Ewwwww. Just... ewwwww. who cares? they identify the station, the music covers up silence, and the supers have words on them. i don't know what makes you "professionals" in television design. most, if not all of you, don't even fucking live in grand rapids, so it really means nothing to you! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProButtonPusher 230 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 chris, once you start working in television, you will realize how unimportant things like that really are. no one notices them once you're in a show. people don't watch the news for graphics, they watch it for content. the people who watch news opens all day on youtube don't realize that. Imagine being the person who designed the graphics, had them approved by the station, seeing what some fan boys on a tv forum thought about them. I bet they could care less, and the station probably could too. btw, i work in creative services along with my production work. plus, i never said i was qualified, honey, and i never said a word on what i thought about the graphics. its better to work in a small market then to fantasize about working in any market. we're 151, by the way. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Lampstein 107 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 we're 151, by the way. Haha.. I love this site.. and the douchebags that bring it to life. Also - is it just me, or does all Pyburn stuff look the same? Weird glassy effect.. Rectangle L3 with dead space on the left side? In terms of originality, this is worse than Giant Octopus. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess 1115 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 It doesn't look like a ripoff of WNBC's graphics. It looks like a ripoff of CNBC's graphics. Gannett markets who are about to get this, I feel your pain. This kind of sloppy graphical work is what we Philadelphians have had to endure for five years now... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Lampstein 107 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 It doesn't look like a ripoff of WNBC's graphics. It looks like a ripoff of CNBC's graphics. Gannett markets who are about to get this, I feel your pain. This kind of sloppy graphical work is what we Philadelphians have had to endure for five years now... If you change the colors and replace the circles with peacock feathers, yeah it is WNBC's graphics in some variation. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhombics447 1 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 If you change the colors and replace the circles with peacock feathers' date=' yeah it is WNBC's graphics in some variation.[/quote'] I wonder if they will do that for the NBC affiliates. I'm expecting WKYC to switch at any time. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoryan 21 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 This won't go over well with the KARE audience here in the Twin Cities... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess 1115 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 There's some stuff from both, but I think the WNBC package was more based on light effects. The CNBC package was based on extremely heavy use of chrome, which is carried over here. I think once we see the blue version then the similarity will become more prominent. Still doesn't change the fact that this is overall a very weak package. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSSZNews 1051 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 I honestly don't think this would look terrible in blue. WZZM's previous graphics were red, so it makes sense in that regard to do a Hue change to red, if indeed the original Pyburns were made in blue. So, maybe there's hope for stations like KPNX and KARE. W*USA? WXIA? Ehhhh. (And I'm almost positive WCSH/WLBZ will resist this change for as long as they can.) -T Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
who?cares 254 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 i personally think this package would look better in blue. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jestbiteme 13 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 I (And I'm almost positive WCSH/WLBZ will resist this change for as long as they can.) -T I was hoping for the same with WTSP, especially since they just switched to the Giant Octopus graphics, but it doesn't look promising. I'm kinda disappointed, and I'll throw in my dislike for the music at no extra charge. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jestbiteme 13 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 chris, once you start working in television, you will realize how unimportant things like that really are. no one notices them once you're in a show. people don't watch the news for graphics, they watch it for content. the people who watch news opens all day on youtube don't realize that. Imagine being the person who designed the graphics, had them approved by the station, seeing what some fan boys on a tv forum thought about them. I bet they could care less, and the station probably could too. btw, i work in creative services along with my production work. plus, i never said i was qualified, honey, and i never said a word on what i thought about the graphics. its better to work in a small market then to fantasize about working in any market. we're 151, by the way. If graphics do not matter, tell me why WBBM just shelled out nearly half a million dollars for theirs? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess 1115 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 This was the opinion of staffers at a station I interned at. (I'm not naming the station.) They felt that people didn't pay attention to the graphics and they really did not matter if they were good or not. The resulting on-air look showed. My belief is that while we represent the obsessives, on-air presentation is more important than a lot of people think. A good set of graphics enables the broadcast to look professional; a good piece of music can become one of the most crucial "branding" elements of the station. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/4482-new-wzzm-graphics/#findComment-41978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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