WAVY 10 Fan 233 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 I noticed at the end of the WBZ dropping CBS Mandate thread that there was some disagreement as to whether the switch to digital means that the analog channel numbers we are used to associating with our stations will be no more or if they will still use the number despite airing on digital television. Can someone straighten out how this switch is supposed to work? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/610-analog-digital-switch/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario500 3 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Many stations will have the option of switching their digital signal to their original analog channel number before February 17, 2009, the current date set for the end of analog broadcasting. Only stations with analog channels 2 or above 51 will not have that option. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/610-analog-digital-switch/#findComment-4791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc7 Man 47 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I don't know HOW many times people like myself are going to have to explain this. : When the switch occurs, analog stations going to digital will have their digital channels show up as their analog channel thanks to PSIP. For example, WABC-DT 45 will show up to viewers as 7-1, 7-2, 7-3, et. al. There will be no need to change brandings to remove channels or change channels. Viewers will likely see the channels remain on the same cable/satellite slots. Quit fretting about it, I'm so sick of hearing about station's branding changes having to do with DTV. They don't. End of story. I know... this has been mentioned on many threads already. The TV takes information from the digital signal (regardless of what channel its coming in on) and based on this information shows it on the designated channel. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/610-analog-digital-switch/#findComment-4820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bixpchiphead 105 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 It may not be as settled as we think it is.... Fer Instance, here in West Michigan WOOD-TV (Analog Channel 8, DT channel 7) on the Analog Drop dead date Will turn in their Analog channel 8 license to the FCC..... Competitor WWMT (Analog Channel 3)will turn in that licence on the Drop dead date, and will become DT CHANNEL 8.... Using the theory that some have said here that all is settled, does this mean that on that date, that WOOD-DT 7's PSIP will remap to 8.1, Since their competitor WWMT is DT 8? I don't think so...... Another example In Detroit WXYZ will turn their analog Channnel 7 license(so long circle 7)on the drop-dead date and become DT 41, the same day that WJBK-TV turns in their analog chanel 2 licence and become DT CHANNEL 7....Again, will WXYZ-DT's PSIP remap to 7.1,etc, when WJBK-DT becomes Fox 7? again, I don't think so.... For as sure as we are here, I don't think the broadcastor are in unity on this... Hence the smart move by Ed Piette at 'BZ (and 'CCO before that), to emphasize the Call letters in the runnup to February, 2009... For all we know, the DT's could remap to WBZ.1, WBZ.2 (WCCO.1 WCCO.2) http://www.fcc.gov/dtv/ has the details Pay attention to the 05/23/06 and the 08/29/06 entries... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/610-analog-digital-switch/#findComment-4821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ntropolis 596 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 It may not be as settled as we think it is.... Fer Instance, here in West Michigan WOOD-TV (Analog Channel 8, DT channel 7) on the Analog Drop dead date Will turn in their Analog channel 8 license to the FCC..... Competitor WWMT (Analog Channel 3)will turn in that licence on the Drop dead date, and will become DT CHANNEL 8.... Using the theory that some have said here that all is settled, does this mean that on that date, that WOOD-DT 7's PSIP will remap to 8.1, Since their competitor WWMT is DT 8? I don't think so...... Another example In Detroit WXYZ will turn their analog Channnel 7 license(so long circle 7)on the drop-dead date and become DT 41, the same day that WJBK-TV turns in their analog chanel 2 licence and become DT CHANNEL 7....Again, will WXYZ-DT's PSIP remap to 7.1,etc, when WJBK-DT becomes Fox 7? again, I don't think so.... For as sure as we are here, I don't think the broadcastor are in unity on this... Hence the smart move by Ed Piette at 'BZ (and 'CCO before that), to emphasize the Call letters in the runnup to February, 2009... For all we know, the DT's could remap to WBZ.1, WBZ.2 (WCCO.1 WCCO.2) http://www.fcc.gov/dtv/ has the details Pay attention to the 05/23/06 and the 08/29/06 entries... Do you own a digital TV and have it hooked up to an antenna? WWMT will remap to 3.1, 3.2, etc. and WJBK will remap to 2.1, 2.2, etc. Most viewers won't know WWMT's digital is on 8 and WJBK's digital is on 7. They'll still think of them as channel 2 and channel 3. Nothing can remap to "Call Letters.1" and "Call Letters.2." It will show up as 4.1 and 4.2, etc. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/610-analog-digital-switch/#findComment-4824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopdevil 1 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Another example In Detroit WXYZ will turn their analog Channnel 7 license(so long circle 7)on the drop-dead date and become DT 41, the same day that WJBK-TV turns in their analog chanel 2 licence and become DT CHANNEL 7....Again, will WXYZ-DT's PSIP remap to 7.1,etc, when WJBK-DT becomes Fox 7? again, I don't think so.... One uniformed statement after another. Next time, do the research before you post. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/610-analog-digital-switch/#findComment-4859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
artie fufkin 0 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 It may not be as settled as we think it is.... Fer Instance, here in West Michigan WOOD-TV (Analog Channel 8, DT channel 7) on the Analog Drop dead date Will turn in their Analog channel 8 license to the FCC..... Competitor WWMT (Analog Channel 3)will turn in that licence on the Drop dead date, and will become DT CHANNEL 8.... Using the theory that some have said here that all is settled, does this mean that on that date, that WOOD-DT 7's PSIP will remap to 8.1, Since their competitor WWMT is DT 8? I don't think so...... Another example In Detroit WXYZ will turn their analog Channnel 7 license(so long circle 7)on the drop-dead date and become DT 41, the same day that WJBK-TV turns in their analog chanel 2 licence and become DT CHANNEL 7....Again, will WXYZ-DT's PSIP remap to 7.1,etc, when WJBK-DT becomes Fox 7? again, I don't think so.... For as sure as we are here, I don't think the broadcastor are in unity on this... Hence the smart move by Ed Piette at 'BZ (and 'CCO before that), to emphasize the Call letters in the runnup to February, 2009... For all we know, the DT's could remap to WBZ.1, WBZ.2 (WCCO.1 WCCO.2) http://www.fcc.gov/dtv/ has the details Pay attention to the 05/23/06 and the 08/29/06 entries... Hey buddy, the FCC made a rule a couple of years ago about channel IDs. They said that you are to identify your channel by your analog number, not the digital number. Stations are not supposed to list the digital channel number in station IDs (some still do). So if you're ABC 7 in the analog world, you'll still be ABC 7 in the digital world whether you broadcast on 7, 17, 27, 37 or 47. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/610-analog-digital-switch/#findComment-4900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCAUTVNBC10 413 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Yeah this really isn't that complicated. Stupid twelve year olds. : Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/610-analog-digital-switch/#findComment-4908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3951 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 I'm sure some piddly UHF stations that were lucky enough to have been assigned a VHF DT channel and are keeping it after the switch are going to flaunt it like there's no tomorrow. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/610-analog-digital-switch/#findComment-4951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
artie fufkin 0 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 I'm sure some piddly UHF stations that were lucky enough to have been assigned a VHF DT channel and are keeping it after the switch are going to flaunt it like there's no tomorrow. I'm not sure why...because the DT channel will just show up as their UHF channel. As hopdevil said: One uniformed statement after another. Next time, do the research before you post. they could always change what their branding, cfif, and they could change what they show up as on digital tuners. Wrong again. If you're an analog UHF station that will be VHF in the digital age. You will still be identified by your UHF number. If you're analog Channel 43 and digital channel 7, you can't call yourself channel 7 after the transition. I thought it was bad enough that some people still think you can't own television stations in adjacent DMAs because the signals overlap (ex. Boston and Providence). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/610-analog-digital-switch/#findComment-4976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVY 10 Fan 233 Posted February 13, 2007 Author Share Posted February 13, 2007 Or (no offense) working at NMSA Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/610-analog-digital-switch/#findComment-5028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev17ian 0 Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I'm sure some piddly UHF stations that were lucky enough to have been assigned a VHF DT channel and are keeping it after the switch are going to flaunt it like there's no tomorrow. I'm not sure why...because the DT channel will just show up as their UHF channel. As hopdevil said: One uniformed statement after another. Next time, do the research before you post. they could always change what their branding, cfif, and they could change what they show up as on digital tuners. Wrong again. If you're an analog UHF station that will be VHF in the digital age. You will still be identified by your UHF number. If you're analog Channel 43 and digital channel 7, you can't call yourself channel 7 after the transition. I thought it was bad enough that some people still think you can't own television stations in adjacent DMAs because the signals overlap (ex. Boston and Providence). Then can you still be known as channel 43 after that happens? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/610-analog-digital-switch/#findComment-10631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueflag 0 Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 May I refer you to further up this very same thread to where cfif explained it rather nicely? I don't know HOW many times people like myself are going to have to explain this. Roll Eyes When the switch occurs, analog stations going to digital will have their digital channels show up as their analog channel thanks to PSIP. For example, WABC-DT 45 will show up to viewers as 7-1, 7-2, 7-3, et. al. There will be no need to change brandings to remove channels or change channels. Viewers will likely see the channels remain on the same cable/satellite slots. Quit fretting about it, I'm so sick of hearing about station's branding changes having to do with DTV. They don't. End of story. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/610-analog-digital-switch/#findComment-10717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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