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  1. so... noticed something absent from the live stream...

     

    closed captioning... which they are legally required to have if it's being closed captioned over the air...

     

    anyone who can pick this channel up... are they doing closed captioning ota??? since closed captioning wavers are for individual stations this might land someone in hot water with the Commission...

     

    you wanna play with the big boys you gotta follow the rules the big boys all have to follow...

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  2. On 12/1/2018 at 1:57 PM, Eat News said:

    Cough,Cough...

    Calling KAAP "San Francisco" is what I would call really generous.

    Like super, super generous...with a really big antenna on a super perfect day.

    But maybe San Jose will have better results...and it's better than nothing at all.

     

    hard to take a news org seriously when they try to stretch the truth about what cities they are in...

     

    KAAP has a construction permit issued that will take the signal farther away from the city than it already is...

     

    https://www.fcc.gov/media/radio/map-display#appid=2016934&call=KAAP-LD&contour=51&city=SANTA+CRUZ&state=CA&fileno=-0000054935&.map

     

    would be more appropriate to say "san jose"... but that doesn't sound as cool...

     

     

  3. How did we all miss this...

    Justin Draper is the new GM at KOVR.

     

    https://www.adweek.com/tvspy/cbs-taps-justing-draper-as-kvor-gm/208150

     

    warning, warning, warning...

     

    Draper is a CBS bean counter.

     

    Not a sales weasel...

    Not a news pig...

    Not a production or engineering nerd...

     

    Draper is a Bean Counter. x2

     

    Pay very close attention to what happens at KOVR with this guy because he will be setting the tone for all the other OnO's in the CBS chain.

    If he makes a big splash in the Sacto River then expect CBS to shoot him up the ranks real quick.

     

    Draper has one job.

    Get KOVR "on financial track" asap....and then the rest of the chain shall follow.

     

    he can't be much worse than jay howell... who essentially hit the ground running with projects to automate the control rooms... said goodbye to expensive talent and redundant management... loved bonded cellular over anything else (which has blown up on air multiple times)... he also implemented a cheap-o way to telecast the local minor league baseball games... taking the feeds of the team's in-house stadium cameras and sending them back to the station over cheap IP encoders (not fiber, some wireless junk) where they are switched... blew up right before the first telecast and almost sank it... if the engineers hadn't been clever... he is cheap cheap cheap!!!

     

    KOVR is ripe for some bean counting... good day sacramento takes up tons of resources (sac has a huge creative services team... half of which seem to exclusively work on good day material...) and makes little profit... who wants to bet a year from now it's reduced to an hour long infotainment show??

     

    KOVR is where they are slipping bean counters into the "good ol' boys" club that is CBS GMs...

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  4. Why didn't they stick with the one they had or go back to the orignal circle 5? How many drafts did they have? WPTV were able to keep their circle 5 logo, but again what were the reasoning? Look at WCVB, WISN and WTAE there a reason those logos stand out and have been synonymous with their brand identity for decades.

     

    http://logos.wikia.com/wiki/WEWS-TV

    http://logos.wikia.com/wiki/WPTV-TV

     

    they did... there were other "circle 5" logo variations pitched too... they were passed on... and most of them weren't great...

     

    the consultants or whoever said they needed a new brand and that's what happened... maybe... just maybe... tv stations that are struggling to attract young viewers... don't want some dated logo and slogan from the 70's serving as their brand...

     

    this happens everywhere... pepsi has done it... mcdonalds... walmart... all for the same reason... to remake their image... hell in the period of time some of these stations have changed their logo once... other brands have changed a dozen times....

     

    oh the times they are a changin'...

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  5. however for the station to have the call letters of it owner, and to be the state first tv station. One would think they would embrace quality over quantity.

     

    i see the "i wish things stayed the way they were in 1995" side of tvnewstalk is out again... a mediocre logo for a mediocre company... not sure what the problem is... ;)

     

    quality over quantity??? how many logos do they have??? if you don't like this logo... you should have seen some of the drafts... oof!!! this was the best of the bunch... believe me...

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    his short tenure at KOVR was fraught with hasty management and talent departures... wonder if he's being sent around to clean house...

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  7. i am in the target demo, and the only reason i watch network news is i work in tv and it's on at my desk... if i wasn't working i wouldn't watch... why? because i've heard it already... i saw the same news on Twitter three hours ago... and i didn't have to sit through a bunch of fluff to see it... i'm not sure you will like how they "evolve"... Its going to be nothing like how it is now... one anchor? long opens? all of that will go away... to attract the kiddos... @Weeters needs to make a pure HTML theme for this site so people can pretend it really is 1995...
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  8. Checked in with both WTMJ and WGBA and their "Now" treatment; it looks like WGBA is playing it straight with some local content where it's fit in naturally, while WTMJ is giving it a more selective treatment as if it's a wire service, though today was an unusual edition due to Jordy Nelson's release from the Packers and the wait for a news conference with the team (which thank goodness started after primetime and both stations sanely decided to give it the 'more at 10' treatment rather than pre-empt The Voice for it). Oddly, WTMJ isn't using the custom time/temp bug any longer.

     

    tmj4's version of the now was doing pretty well ratings-wise... so they might have some freedom to keep parts of their old format... one of the few "nows" where the ratings went up from the show it replaced ("wisconsin tonight" was a dumpster fire)

     

    that bug was the normal now bug without the current conditions icon... a limitation of viz ticker versus newsroom solutions that scripps standardized everyone else on... someone told me they were working on adding it but it was very low priority... guess no one got around to it...

  9. Also I don't think KTNV will ever get "The Now" and if they did it'll only last a few months before "The Now" goes nationwide

     

    it went nation wide today... the article says the changes take place “starting Today”...

     

    Those are hardly different than the old ones... they added some edging and that’s about it... the transition is slower but I’m not seeing much different there...

     

    not sure what YOU have been watching... but they’re much bigger... and uglier... than before... not to mention more red...

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  10. highly doubt they are remodeling the set during sweeps... whatever you see now are probably all the changes that are going to be made...

     

    if it aint changed by the minute the opening ceremonies end on friday it aint getting changed...

  11. I also wonder why Chuck Todd never filled in on the Today Show. He seems like he could do well in that format. I guess that's the reason why.

    i know people who work with chuck... pretty sure the last thing he wants to do is host "today"...

     

    how about jimmy fallon? or seth myers? maybe they could get lorne michaels to find someone... hey, jay leno isn't doing anything either... maybe they can win back conan, or andy, i mean they already

    ... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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  12. I’m assuming that affiliates have to have something absolutely epic occur to be able to pre-empt Olympic coverage. During the Rio olympics there was a supposed shooting inside Crabtree Valley Mall. WTVD went all in for two or three hours with reporters live around the exterior of the mall while WRAL broke in once or twice for a minute or so and ran crawls. It was a huge story for the day. No way will NBC let them kick olympics for basketball. My bet is on Fox 50.

     

    don't get why people think NBC will get angry for preempting olympics for breaking news.... they won't if it's something significant (like a mass shooting)...

     

     

    that is the first cut-in WTMJ broke in to the '12 summer olympics (on a sunday morning!!) for the Sikh temple shooting... once more crew came in, olympics got pushed off to 4.2 for the rest of the day... they are still one of the oldest NBC affiliates in the country... :rolleyes:

     

    sports? hell no... but if there's a major breaker they can totally preempt the olympics... no one wants to be the network that punished a local station for covering local news... the reason WRAL probably didn't cover it? olympic news preemptions = less staff scheduled to work & calling in crew not scheduled to work = $$$overtime$$$!!!

  13. It was definitely '87, that's when they did the rebrand, ditched the logo we both use for our avatars, and brought in Dan Gray (who is clearly amused by Santa up there). Cheap is right- that KCOP knock-off logo wasn't introduced until later, initially it was just "KOVR 13 NEWS" in a bold, italicized version of the font CBS News used for lower thirds, odd for an ABC affiliate but perhaps foreshadowing its future as a CBS O&O?

    And speaking of lower thirds, during the initial period of that set, while using the CBS-style font, the lower thirds were ginormous- almost like lower halves!

     

    the logo in your avatar got ditched in 87 for the kcop one when they moved to west sac... then they realized the new one sucked and debut a refined version of the previous logo around 1990... that logo is still painted on their helipad...

     

    KOVR has a unique history... and the internet hasn't documented it well...

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  14. Aries had deep financial problems and couldn't compete, the news room was barebone. The only time WGBA had news personal levels that were comparable to the other stations in the market was the first five years or so Journal owned the station, not seeing ratings gains like Journal wanted and the recession deeply hurt the station after that time period. I think losing Larry McCarren hurts (you need recognizable people to get viewers). The other stations have double the news staff WGBA has and so far since Scripps ownership hasn't increase it any.

    scripps is barely investing in WGBA outside of (necessary) technology upgrades. vizrt/the virtual set and HD news are a sign of that. keeping the staff lean makes me feel that they are going to try to "flip" the station. green bay seems too small market for scripps, and i bet they dump it in the future. same goes for WSYM in lansing.

     

    WGBA and WTMJ getting talent opens at the exact same time is no coincidence. TMJ's art department is operating as a partial extension of the scripps graphics hub, doing the graphics transitions of the journal group. that's why the rollout is so slow.

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  15. Its Scripps anything is possible. Steve Wexler didn't handle the day to day news operation of WTMJ, Bill Berra did and the longer he was there the more power he got. Its uncanny how similar WTMJ and WFTS where he use to be the ND was, Bill uses the same formula. Bill is now working at WFLA is now becoming WFTS lite.

     

    wexler was responsible just as much as berra was for allowing berra's cockamamie franchise ideas to destroy the station's integrity. "speedbusters"?? "dirty dining"?? and dont forget how he would allow stories to be sensationalized to the point they'd get sued over them...

     

    anyways it's not wtmj that's changing... i will say the biggest thing people on here will have a problem with is the new logo for the station that is rebranding... not good...

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  16. Now what about the other former journal stations?

     

    they'll get it eventually... this isn't some push-button change... the only reason tmj got it first was because their graphics department picked up some of the work so the (slow) scripps hub didn't have to do it. most of the journal stations don't have proper graphics departments, so...

     

    a lot of the Journal viz infrastructure is old, and they are finding out that upgrades need to happen so the graphics work as well as they do on the stations with brand new hardware...

  17. how long does scripps take to intergrate the station into it's on air style wftx closed the sale last april.

    do you see any of the journal stations using the scripps pkg yet??? i don't... yet... ;)

     

    there is a lot of stuff that goes into launching packages. all the stations can't get the new graphics at once. wftx was one of the last to get the journal pkg if my memory serves me correctly. they are working on a few stations at a time, and the "bigger" stations will be first to get it, but not necessarily in the order you may think.

     

    Since they are rebuilding all the existing graphics first and they only started that in the fall I would say be patient grasshopper...

     

    that is done and already on a few stations... WCPO just switched to viz in the last few weeks.

  18. They are losing money because they aren't spending the money to make money. They will go under at some point and be forced to sell stuff...

     

    they're spending plenty of money... you just don't see it... go to any of the former journal communications stations and ask how much scripps has invested in them... many are adding staff like crazy & upgrading equipment left and right... WTMJ is running out of space in their newsroom to put new staff...

     

    it's no coincidence they turned a profit this time last year and not this year... since then they bought a bunch of poorly run stations that need a ton of money sunk into them... JBG was cheap... cheap in the way they would rather keep paying union engineers to sit around for hours a day doing nothing between shows instead of spending big bucks automating the control room... now it's up to scripps to make those investments and they ain't cheap...

  19. I'm somewhat surprised that WTMJ hasn't gotten The Now. They've got continuous newscasts from 3:00 to 6:30 (7:00, if you include "Wisconsin Tonight.") One would think they'd jump at the opportunity to rebrand at least a part of that, if only to reduce that nonstop block of news (albeit with a slightly different newscast).

    they couldn't even if they wanted. the vizrt version of the scripps graphics won't be ready for a few more months.

    I don't know how well the ratings would do in Milwaukee if The Now expanded to Milwaukee

    can't do much worse than their 3:00 and 4:00 shows are doing now. :rolleyes:

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