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22 WPNT in Pittsburgh is airing now at 10 (where it used to air) instead of iCrime.  I thought SC was pulled out of syndication?  Obviously a sudden change not reflected in the web listings yet

On 9/19/2022 at 11:54 AM, Matt S. said:

welp…does not look like Ring Nation got cleared here in Orlando. At all. also over in Pittsburgh tvtv.us appears to show wpxi backed out of airing it, but tv passport says they’re gonna have it at 3pm. only blatant clearance on either site is WHIO in Dayton, weekdays at 10am (probably because they can’t rely on reruns of justice rules for the entire tv season) 

 

not even New York City seems to be clearing ring nation. 

Ugh.  Just for Laughs belongs at 3am.  Such an awkward show, you know it's South African because nobody talks- just generic goof music.

1 hour ago, mrschimpf said:

Even more sludge like The Balancing Act/Daily Flash, or worse, Copeland, Robertson and Joyce Meyer and their ilk get higher-profile timeslots. But hopefully more stuff like the 'Very Local' preview hour Hearst aired on their stations in the week between Ellen's end and Jennifer Hudson's launch; it was actually pretty good content

 

On another note, way too late, Scripps is finally adding much more prominent 'these people pay to be on TV' disclaimers to their advertorial shows at the start in actually readable text rather than shoved onto the end in mice type.

As a Christian I disagree that Preacher TV would be thar horrible. With that said I don't see the local news bubble bursting, throw on stories from the network feed, repurpose stories from othe dayparts and bam collect the local $$.

On 8/3/2022 at 8:28 PM, TheRolyPoly said:

 

Where's Kate snow?  I thought she was anchoring.

Nvrmnd.  I see it's mainly the west coast affiliates.  We east coasters get these two randos instead.

WPXI will have just for laughs gags at 3 for a week at 3 until ring Nation debuts the week after.  Ring nation and faytime jepoardy replacing the judge judy hour at 3.  Judge Judy will replace Maury at 5 on WPGH.  

Saw a promo that wpxi will be starting jeopardy reruns at 3:30 replacing the second run of Judge judy.

Looks like Jennifer Hudson is the new Kelly Clarkson as her show replaced The Real at 1:05 on WTAE-TV.  Hopefully Clarkson on WTAE at 3pm won't tank the 5pm news.  WPXI had her show at 3am for a reason. 

I wonder what WPXI will have at 3 instead of Judge Judy?  Hopefully not more news.

14 hours ago, SS8609 said:

This is definitely spot on. It's not going to necessarily boost their ratings, but to bring back the fanfare (as ABC did during pre-vax COVID and as NBC will always have even after John Williams is gone) is golden.

Then by your logic, CBS should do one for KTVT with the red and star accents...

Too bad the cbs theme is pretty vacant sounding compared to the other two.  So boring sounding compared to the other two.  The best version was the bombastic arrangement during the later Rather years, that was pretty pretty good.

4 hours ago, tjt24 said:

That's really one of the only ways they are lol. They do well in the ratings, but other than that, there isn't all that much that's special about them. 

Same across the board, local TV is so homogenized-- more than ever.

1 hour ago, Glimmer said:

WISN is airing several Very Local specials in the 3pm slot next week before Jennifer Hudson starts.  Interestingly, they seem to have pulled The Good Dish entirely from their lineup around late July.

All Hearst stations must be doing them, WTAE is doing the same.

15 hours ago, channel2 said:

It was pointed out that Universal Television wouldn't be happy with having fewer slots to sell shows to NBC in. I'm sure a lot of Hollywood types would need to be pacified as well...

 

(Then again, none of them had any advance knowledge of The WB and UPN joining forces!)

They're so desperate in making Peacock successful that they're willing to sacrifice the network in the process.

4 hours ago, Kenneth Kissel said:

First off, that would be WTAE. WPXI could air a 3 PM Newscast or move one of the graveyard shows to the 3 pm time slot. Sad day for WPXI though. Judge Judy has been on 11 since the beginning of the show. @Superdude.

No, actually the first year of Judge Judy aired at 12:30 on WTAE-TV after the noon news.

Since tonight and late night are both taped they should have an 11pm and 11:35 feed and let the stations choose.  On CBS y&r has the 11am (12et) and 12:30pm feeds.

CBSEN will fail forever opposite the other two, they really should move the newscast earlier to 5:30 or even 4:30.  They should also consider adopting a more tabloid "Inside Edition" format in contrast to the other traditional newscast.  If it bleeds, it leads.  Worked wonders on the local level with Miami's WSVN.  

If all that fails just make it a 10-15 minute insert that can be placed into the local news blocks whenever and call it a day.

On 1/14/2022 at 11:06 PM, newscopter7 said:

Oof. Seems wrong lumping Jane in with that crew. 

Well, it's true she was forced out to make room for "next year's model."  Luckilly NBC was able to give her some projects before Dateline NBC really took off.

2 hours ago, nickp said:

 ER was the number 1 show in the country three different years for NBC in that 10 PM slot with 30 million viewers a night

...and that was a couple of decades ago.  Irrelevant.

2 hours ago, TexasTVNews said:

Well, I don't. NBC does this, it's going to lose viewership and ratings at the 10pm/9pm slot.

Well viewership is a losing battle that they'll never win.  It's a streaming world whether you like it or not, the networks need adapt so they don't get left behind.

1 hour ago, tyrannical bastard said:

On one hand it would be nice to have a pretty universal alternative to the FOX station doing news at 10/9.

 

On the other hand, it may be a blow to the FOX stations that have been doing this since the beginning of time, and cause quite a problem when the NBC station is the one that is doing the FOX newscast, places like Pittsburgh and Raleigh.  

Well those Fox affiliates would have to figure something else or actually start a news division or "news central" it with their ownership group.

4 hours ago, TheRob said:

The cost-cutting is inevitable. If NBC drops an hour, everyone else will too.

 

I doubt the scenario of shifting the late-night line-up 30-60 minutes is realistic.

No way will SNL move up an hour but I don't see why the tonight show wouldn't, and get a 35 minute jump on cbs and abc.

On 8/14/2022 at 8:29 PM, iron_lion said:

I was thinking of that pattern too, but I opted for the simplest split, Mon-Wed/Thu-Fri.

Understandable.

 

Profitability aside, my point was that the five new one-hour episodes per week model (37 min w/o commercials) is contributing to soaps quality struggles. Poor quality is part of the reason why audiences have drifted away from the genre. If soaps perhaps cut down on how many episodes they produced, it would lead to lesser *perhaps better scripts*, a smaller cast, thus more focused stories, (less people to  pay), fewer sets, and a smaller budget. Better quality might not get Luke and Laura level audiences to watch in droves but it would get some of the dedicated fans who gave up to tune in again. 

 

I'm not sure if Days of Our Lives on Peacock will have a five day or one day per week output. I'm curious to see if fans of the genre would be accepting of a one new episode per week structure. 

With all due respect, if they wanted a smaller cast and a tighter script they might as well go once a week.  The appeal for me has always been multiple plots at once with characters rotating between  front and back burner status. 

Twice or thrice a week is fine, but then that slippery slope will lead to season breaks.  If you have Long breaks then it's a telenovella not a traditional soap. 

Just saw a promo that the old judge Judy show is moving from WPXI to WPGH 53 in the fall.

PBRTV suggests that the Jeopardy/Wheel switch may be a CBS thing, for uniformity nationwide.

https://www.pbrtv.com/wpxi-flipping-game-shows-july-4/

Have Jeopardy ratings declined notably  since trebek?  That could be the reason, a weakened Jeopardy as opposed to Wheel?

15 hours ago, Kenneth Kissel said:

Or WPXI could give them up entirely and it would move to KDKA-TV (CBS Media Venues corporate cousin) KDKA-TV would have to give up their 7:30 Newscast and move it to WPCW. 

 

I always thought it was weird that Wheel, Jeopardy, and Judge Judy were on WPXI when Pittsburgh has a CBS O&O station that could easily air them as well. 

...and Inside Edotion and Entertainment Tonight on WTAE.

I wonder if Jeopardy having two rotating hosts instead of one is a factor in the decision.  WPXI had the pair that way for decades.

Good riddance, The Final Word doesn't hold a candle to KDKA-TV's competing  Sports Showdown.  I believe WTAE has a competing sports show as well.

7 hours ago, Kenneth Kissel said:

Its about time. I remember when WPXI tried to air it at 1 PM. AHHHHHHH. It was a ratings bust from day 1.

Apparently it did better than Kelly Clarkson which they banished to 3am where it still airs.

https://www.pbrtv.com/holden-returning-to-cleveland-roots/

WPXI reporter Mike Holden returning to WEWS in Cleveland where he was an intern.  His family still resides around  Cleveland with his father very ill.

Although unlikely, it would be neat if NexstarCW became more of a full network.  With a nightly NewsNation block  once or twice a day.  Maybe other cheap programming cobbled together from their various resources.

Although unlikely, it would be neat if NexstarCW became more of a full network.  With a nightly NewsNation block  once or twice a day.  Maybe other cheap programming cobbled together from their various resources.  Nexstar being in a unique position of being able to own many of their stations.

Would Nexstar have to swap their network affiliates?  Seems like it would be awkward running affiliates for other networks.

Also,is there any possibility this doesn't become WGNA 2.0.  Trib wanted to compete on the scale of USA and TNT and failed big time.

1 hour ago, TheRolyPoly said:

 

I support that only in which I believe that there are CBS affiliates out there that wish they had hour-long midday news. I'm looking at WINK Fort Myers and WKYT Lexington as two such examples. There's probably more out there that want to as well.

 

I'm thinking so does KDKA Pittsburgh and WTKR Norfolk since both are in very competive markets.

KD has always been dominant at noon.  30 minutes is more than enough time for news.  There's other dayparts they can sell ad time.  I wouldn't mind y&REASON moving to 3, Since wpxi moved days to 1.  That said, I barely follow the soaps anymore.

Hypothetically if b&b moved to 2 it should be an hour, standing fully on its own.  Talk has always been a waste of space/vanity project for Moonves's wife and she's not even there anymore.

Also one hour newscasts on 4 and 12 were no brainers cause Y&R was killing everything at 12:30.  The day late Access Hollywood on ch 4 was a slot warmer for ages.

1 hour ago, Kenneth Kissel said:

 

Your wrong. They will change the Network name to Entertainment Nation (because of News Nation).  

 

 

 

P.S: I don't really think Nexstar will actually change The CW's name. 

CBS/WB will probably retain some minority share to justify keeping the name the same for a while.

No.  Y&R's 12:30-1:30 slot has been key to its success over the decades.  Gets a half hour jump on the other channels starting shows at 1.  By 1:30 all the hour shows are in progress so you've got a built in audience at 1:30.