techteacher50

On 3/26/2024 at 6:24 PM, Encore Emp said:

@techteacher50 KTTV does run weekend news in the evenings but not mornings.

my apologies. I forgot that hey run evening news on the weekends.

42 minutes ago, LTSC1980 said:

FIFY

All four stations have billions of dollars to allocate to news operations. The thing is that it’s all about the perception of viewers. WJZ is neck and neck with WBAL-TV in this market, and the other two stations are lower tiered. In some markets, Sinclair (owners of WBFF) are in fact #1 in their market. An example of this is KUTV in Salt Lake City. It started out as having strong ratings when it came out and it still does. In each market, some stations do not run weekend news (WMAR and KTTV) and when political campaigns want to run their ads, they only want the top tiered stations in the market. WJZ and WBAL are selected primarily for these ads as the other two stations in the market are bypassed because of severely lower ratings.

29 minutes ago, MediaZone4K said:

 

SB...Wow WHDH is still doing well as an independent even beating NBC's ground up operation at WBTS.

 

To @carolina4's point, CBS's lack of aesthetic investment is evident on the national level. Just look at CBS Sunday Morning's 2000s computer graphics and formely chroma key set.  Their outdated graphics totally work for that homely program, but comparetively it did not on the CBS Evening News. Norah's current set is the best they've had in years.

 

I will howver credit to local stations like WCBS who do have a great set. 

 

 

 

WHDH does well since Sunbeam Television, its owner, historically does a great job and has a strong following. What WBTS (Comcast) did was to bypass them and install their own NBC Channel 10 (Really Channel 8 ) on a lower powered CD station. The viewers in the market have reacted adversely to this station and it has the lowest ratings in the market, allowing all other stations (including WSBK and WBZ CBS) better ratings. Being late to the party and rude about it will get you no favors.

On 2/28/2024 at 9:49 AM, tyrannical bastard said:

O&O wise, CBS lags in the largest markets while ABC dominates.  NBC varies, but seems to be in the middle.

 

Of the top 5 markets, Chicago is where Fox gets their clock cleaned by WGN on a consistent basis while NY & LA seem to be doing better, WNYW does way better than WPIX and what's left of WWOR (but does KCAL and KTLA outrank KTTV?)

 

Generally, ABC has held up the best as the network owners have "borged" their stations.  CBS took a hit in the 80s from the Tisch era and Jeff "Zucked" the NBC stations during his disastrous tenure.

Well it seems that KTTV doesn’t do as well as they have no morning weekend news at all. This only happens when it’s not worth competing with other stations.

12 hours ago, GodfreyGR said:

KDKA, WJZ, WCCO come to mind. Does anyone have a pulse on WBZ or KTVT?

 

I agree with your previous hypothesis that the CBS O&O format might have some merit. Does not help that Evening News and Mornings do not provide much of a support to any of the CBS affiliates. 

It seems that CBS O&Os do better in markets where there are non owned and operated stations to compete with. WJZ in Baltimore does very well ratings wise there as WMAR has been in last place since the 1960s and WBFF Fox has opinionated news stories from Sinclair. Only WBAL TV NBC from Hearst directly competes with WJZ for #1 in the Baltimore DMA.

59 minutes ago, ScottSchell said:

KTVT CBS News Texas is apparently rebranding once again and dropping News from the name. They are also dropping the 6pm newscast and adding a 7pm newscast on KXTA all starting September 11th. https://www.ftvlive.com/sqsp-test/2023/8/27/cbs-oampo-ditches-6pm-newscast

They want to keep Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune together, like in the Eastern and Pacific Time Zones. Many stations in central and mountain either have to split the times across the day, or only select one show while another station gets the other.

1 minute ago, speed053 said:

After KOVR switched to the new graphics, all of the CBS O&O stations are now using the new graphics and Dimensional by Antfood. The old graphics and the CBS Enforcer news music package by Gari has been retired.

Too bad WJZ never used enforcer. I always wanted to watch them without having to do so on a resync video from the Internet.

1 hour ago, jase said:

L3s on regular broadcast with active news ticker.

35 minutes ago, abric said:

Actually, WJZ does have a news helicopter. They were the first one in Baltimore to have one in the late 90s.

WJZ-CBS Baltimore receives new R66 Newscopter - AviTrader Aviation News

They dropped it recently and swapped it out for a flying drone that is operated by a Multimedia Journalist. It’s a good way to save money, thus is why WBAL-TV correctly saying that they now have Baltimore’s only news chopper.

49 minutes ago, Nynewslover2 said:

 

WJZ is definitely behind in times. It still amazes me that they don’t have a news chopper.

WBAL-TV is Baltimore’s only news station with a helicopter. I honestly feel that ‘JZ puts on the better news product but 11 wins in the ratings department. 

 

It’s great that Steve Sosna has joined the team, maybe he can give them some guidance on upgrading their weather department given that he has Major Market experience coming from Philadelphia & NYC. 

 

With all that said WJZ is one of the higher rated CBS o&o’s; even if they are stuck in the early 2000’s, hopefully they don’t drop the ball on this transition. 

 

They are higher rated only because WMAR has been in the basement since the 1960s and WBFF puts so much conservative spin on all stories in Baltimore. They claim that Baltimore is bad and is always in crisis. They despise the Democratic run cities and agencies. WJZ had a chopper for years, but is saving money and using a drone instead.

42 minutes ago, mre29 said:

Sounds like WBBM rushed the switchover so they wouldn't be last.

 

Now it's down to just WJZ and KOVR. 13 versus 13! Who will blink first?

 

Its a race to the bottom. WJZ is usually the last station to get a graphics update. Heck, they held on to their Chroma Cues Package from 1998 to 2018. They never ever used enforcer, which was a shame.

44 minutes ago, Amra said:

Maybe the banner supplier was short? I remember that when the studio debuted, it was mentioned that the front part wasn't a screen.

Also, big yikes. Well launched at 4pm, a disaster afterwards.

Same desk WJZ has. I hope they too, don’t screw the launch up, lol…

1 minute ago, CaptainBAL said:

 

Chroma cues was written specifically for the station. I mean I think they're getting close to moving to the CBS O&O form. When Newman ran WJZ, it was because they didn't have the money. Now once he retired and handed the reins to Audra Swain... it was a transformative time for the station. I'm really surprised that CBS-Paramount Global hasn't bought WUSA from Gannett to make it CBS Washington.

 

Apparently the turnover is getting close according to the current WJZ general manager.

It was once owned by CBS and then sold to Gannett, which has split to form Tegna. I thing having the #7 DMA CBS would push it past the 39% maximum limit of viewers set by the government.

7 minutes ago, 24994J said:

Nice. I hate it.

 

 

Living in Baltimore and having WJZ stuck in the same standard Chroma Cues package for 20 years straight, this is leagues better.. Besides, WJZ is always the last to get upgrades, yet it is among the highest rated CBS Owned and Operated Stations.

WJZ just got its new Weather Center with updated graphics. It even has the CBS logo jingle when the final forecast is played. Not long now until the changeover to the new branding. Thanks @Georgie56

I am hoping that WJZ doesn’t mess this up. They have deviated from most packages with their own music, which I do not like in the least.

On 2/28/2022 at 9:14 PM, hmaxhanson said:

Another sign he's about to hang it up in original episodes? If thats the case, they'll pull a Judge Judy and keep the slots going with reruns!

That is great. You never, ever want Maury on a big 3 network ever. You will get pre-empted by news reports, plus MYNet, Fox, CW, have time to run 2+ episodes a day.