clind 2 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Simply enough, every news network in the United States have the crawl on the bottom of the screen, excluding MSNBC during primetime, and CNN/MSNBC during documentaries, but is it truly useful to have on the screen for most of the broadcasting hours? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Texas 0 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Not really. I think it should be used, but reserved for an important/breaking news event to give more details, otherwise, it's just a long, repetative line of words, with a logo in-between (break), that will eventually make it into the news programming... I wonder, did the Cable News industry began running the Crawl constantly since the 9/11 attacks? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-9332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clind 2 Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 I wonder, did the Cable News industry began running the Crawl constantly since the 9/11 attacks? I believe so, but don't quote me on that, to originally run emergency information on the bottom part of the screen. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-9335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jterry 43 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Yep, 9/11 is when the crawls started. CNN and MSNBC used the current crawl area as a bar for stock market data, as well as the time, during daytime programming, and was removed entirely during evening/overnight programming. I think FNC used a similar method, except did use a crawl during their morning show. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-9353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobilene 2 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I have a hard time watching the cable news nets because the screens are so cram packed, not just with crawls but spinning logos and "story branding" elements. It fries my brain. It reminds me of when I worked in publishing. There, our unofficial motto was, "If the content stinks, package the crap out of it so people will think it's good." jim Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-9358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clind 2 Posted April 29, 2007 Author Share Posted April 29, 2007 Looking at it, the modified versions of the basic news ticker have been interesting, like the old CNN Headline News box (see ), or the MSNBC experiment with a ticker in which each story had a title above it (see ), or even the old style CNNi scroller (see ). Still, I don't think the original CNN scroller will ever be back, seems too ..... flashy (see ) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-9540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clind 2 Posted April 29, 2007 Author Share Posted April 29, 2007 Ugh, if anything, FNC should use a style similar to the ESPN1 ticker with the lighting where the edges are darker and the middle is bright, all along with dark font, but I guess that would end up being part of a larger refresh which the network badly needs to move foward from the horrible mess they turned the bottom third into since the migration to the new style started in Summer 2006 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-9543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxFan 1 Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Did anyone noticed the new white 'FOX News' logo in the ticker... I have to say its just too long... They could better stay with the use of the grey 'FOX' logo. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-10074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbjimbo 0 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I was thinking about this the other day, so I decided to actually try reading it. It was helpful but that was really the first time I read it. It is especially helpful during breaking news events. I used it a lot then. But I do think the screen would look 'naked' without it. I'm just so used to it being there. Though I do agree other stupid graphics (see Fox) need to go. Though here is a note, with everything going digitial onto the internet, I wonder if the crawl will disappear. CNN Pipeline doesn't have a crawl, maybe cause it would be too pixelated. Just a thought. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-10482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvpirate05 1 Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Maybe for Breaking News, but that's it. CNN puts way too much information in their crawls, and sometimes I wonder if they remember that it's not like we're reading a few paragraphs in the newspaper. Give the story in 10 words or less, and just remind viewers they can get the full story on CNN.com. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-10521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev17ian 0 Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 It's confusing and I don't know what I'm trying to read first. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-10550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkarrick00 0 Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 It's so bad now that even the local affiliates are getting into the game of tickers at the bottom. About the only things the crawls/tickers should be used for is breaking news and weather. Or, if it is a sports network (ESPN, NESN, SNY, etc) run crawls during games, and recap shows. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-10610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GForceTV Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 I thought crawls started pre-9/11 on Headline News... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-16440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caliwxdude 254 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 I thought crawls started pre-9/11 on Headline News... Yeah, but it wasn't ever really a "crawl" in the true sense of the word. Brief headlines and a weather forecast with sports scores and stock quotes appeared on screen. See this screenshot below: I have to say though that I've gotten used to the crawl always being there. I agree with what jbjimbo said a few posts down...it really proves itself during breaking news. During our coverage of last night's bridge collapse, I half wanted to see a crawl down there just to keep our viewers on top of what was going on while we hit some of the other stories of the day. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-16453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GForceTV Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 I was thinking more along the lines of these graphics: Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-16537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clind 2 Posted August 3, 2007 Author Share Posted August 3, 2007 Well, in relation to the crawl as we commonly know it, the old CNN Headline News format was not so much a crawl as it was an information hub, I mean, they crammed quite a bit in the half-consumed screen. One note about the Headline design though was that it just took up so much room that pictures were not even important, but information excessively was. Honestly though, I kind of liked that version, it's in your face, gives you information, and you don't have to follow scrolling text. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-16543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amra 171 Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 The only 1 I like personally is the CNN International Ticker. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-16686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clind 2 Posted August 6, 2007 Author Share Posted August 6, 2007 The CNNi one would be interesting if a network used it in the USA, though I think they'd probably set it up as a tumbler alike to the CNBC Index setup on the top of their screen. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-16689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GForceTV Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Yeah, the CNNi one is good, where it only shows one story at a time. I think it's called a "flipper" It actually reminds me of the news part of Headline News' 2001 graphics. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-16705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrfRptr 3 Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 It's very simple, how is the viewer supposed to watch video/anchor, read the crawl, understand what is being said, look at time/temp/stocks, and remember the station with all the garbage floating around the screen. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-16936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jestbiteme 13 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 The crawls are just useless bollocks. Good Lord, Jason! What is your fascination with the forum? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-20947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WXmanTim 88 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Headline News had a crawl going back to the early-90s, but it was used *only* for stock information during the weekday. It was two-tier stock crawl (*edit: Found a video, of this crawl, date unknown) similar to CNBC. I think it was dropped when CNNfn launched in 1995. When it was dropped, they went with a semi-transparent "info-line" that faded information in over the previous (here, 1996). When they updated their look in the late-90s (during the "First/Second/Third Watch" period) kept the "info line" ( , 2000). When they updated again in late 2000 (when Andrea Thompson joined as co-anchor and the old set was first used) CNN:HN became completely unwatchable with the Bloomberg-like info hub. I really wish they would just drop the crawl on all the networks. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-20963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbc9houston 22 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 One program on the cable news networks that does not use the crawl is Countdown with Keith Olbermann on MSNBC. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-21564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clind 2 Posted October 14, 2007 Author Share Posted October 14, 2007 One program on the cable news networks that does not use the crawl is Countdown with Keith Olbermann on MSNBC. MSNBC doesn't largely use the crawl during primetime and overnight, and CNN doesn't use it usually during documentaries or other special programming or events (they've lowered it during presidential speeches, other big speeches, and special events) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1113-do-we-truly-need-the-crawl/#findComment-21572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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