WAVY 10 Fan 232 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-ct-nbc-affils19-2009oct19,0,557820,full.story Found this article mentioning how Jay Leno's show has reportedly hurt the newscasts of the NBC affiliates at 11:00 p.m. The stations mentioned were KSHB, WHDH (which all we all know didn't want to take the show to begin with) and WBAL. It was interesting noticing how hard WBAL was hit, going from a tight battle with CBS station WJZ for the top slot to a distant 2nd. What's the deal here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1811 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 What's the deal here? Leno is a terrible lead-in. That's what the deal is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ntropolis 593 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 WTKR (CBS) is running promos claiming they are #1 at 11. They have flirted with second place for years. WAVY (NBC) was #1 at 11 forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abric 157 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 It's not hurting WRC-TV in Washington DC. In fact, they are gaining viewers at 11:00 p.m. So they might be the one exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
who?cares 253 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I wonder how Leno is affecting WTHR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1340 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I wonder if the stations that have news at 10:00 ET/PT are the real beneficiaries here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw-804 190 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I wonder how Leno is affecting WWBT. Their 11pm news is still #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVY 10 Fan 232 Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 WTKR (CBS) is running promos claiming they are #1 at 11. They have flirted with second place for years. WAVY (NBC) was #1 at 11 forever. I will have to keep an eye on VARTV to see if that can be confirmed, but I would seriously be shocked if that was true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ntropolis 593 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I will have to keep an eye on VARTV to see if that can be confirmed' date=' but I would seriously be shocked if that was true.[/quote'] I wouldn't be shocked, considering how strong CBS's lineup is and how poorly Leno's show is performing. I don't think the majority of people have "their station" for news anymore... it's just the same 'ol same 'ol on every channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsguy22 59 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I will have to keep an eye on VARTV to see if that can be confirmed' date=' but I would seriously be shocked if that was true.[/quote'] Be shocked. It's true. I love Jay Leno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbhcity 3 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Leno is a terrible lead-in. That's what the deal is. I'll take my Seinfeld repeats leading up to FOX News At 11 on KCOP over that junk. Leno needs to hang it up quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ntropolis 593 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I don't think it's "junk." I guess it's because I like Jay. I watch it because it's on... when he was on late night it seemed like the show had more energy... the music, the announcer. It's still not appointment TV viewing for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieboy247 42 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Is Leno also hurting KNBC? I think their newscasts are in 3rd place from what I heard. This also makes me wonder if WGAL is being hurt by Leno as well. I thought they've been doing pretty well with their 11PM Newscasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewitness_news 5 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I wonder how Leno is affecting WVIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
312newswannabe 7 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 He's hurting WMAQ's 10pm show in Chicago... From today's Sun Times, by Lewis Lazare... Jay Leno's new prime-time talk show started out big in the ratings in Chicago, but what a difference a few weeks makes. From the impressive 13.8 rating in the Chicago market the night it debuted on WMAQ-Channel 5 in September, Leno's numbers have plummeted. And that has created big problems for Channel 5's flagship 10 p.m. newscast, which was hoping to use a strong lead-in from Leno to gain ground on perennial 10 p.m. news front-runner WLS-Channel 7. Instead, WMAQ finds itself in the unenviable position of battling to remain the No. 2-rated 10 p.m. newscast as WBBM-Channel 2's 10 p.m. newscast -- long the underdog -- shows real signs of gaining momentum, thanks to huge lead-ins from several popular prime-time shows this fall, including "The Good Wife." For the five-day week that ended Oct. 16, for example, the Leno lead-in to Channel 5's 10 p.m. news averaged a paltry 3.4 rating, compared with a whopping 8.8 rating lead-in on Channel 2, and a 6.7 rating lead-in on Channel 7. For that same week, WBBM's 10 p.m. newscast scored a 5.4 rating, beating out WMAQ's 10 p.m. news, which could do no better than 5.0. WLS's top-ranked 10 p.m. news averaged a commanding 9.2 rating that same week. While Leno so far has failed to work wonders for WMAQ, the station and its leader Larry Wert could take some comfort in the fact that its 10 p.m. news rating at least improved on the disappointing lead-in numbers Leno provided. And WBBM still is losing a chunk of its substantial prime-time audience when its 10 p.m. news begins. But WBBM News Director Jeff Kiernan has said for months his goal was to get more viewers to sample his revamped newscast, and more of them are indeed doing just that. Will NBC be forced to pull Leno if his numbers don't improve in Chicago and other key markets where he also isn't delivering? Wert declined comment, and other local TV execs doubted NBC would take such a radical step anytime soon. But in the television world, all kinds of changes can come very suddenly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVY 10 Fan 232 Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 Will NBC be forced to pull Leno if his numbers don't improve in Chicago and other key markets where he also isn't delivering? Wert declined comment, and other local TV execs doubted NBC would take such a radical step anytime soon. But in the television world, all kinds of changes can come very suddenly. They might, but I doubt Dumb and Dumber (Immelt and Zucker) will ever admit that they bet wrong on this unless things get to the point where stations are threatening to pull their affiliation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
News4LA 0 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Is Leno also hurting KNBC? I think their newscasts are in 3rd place from what I heard. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118010351.html?categoryId=14&cs=1&cache=false NBC affiliates in particular have been stung this fall; due to its low-rated "Jay Leno Show" lead-in at 10 p.m., Los Angeles' KNBC has seen its late news drop 25% so far this fall in the adults 25-54 demo (the preferred measurement for local news). But ABC also struggles at 10 p.m., and in L.A. that's trickled down to O&O KABC, which has experienced a 17% drop for its 11 p.m. newscasts. The only station to see a gain -- third-place KCBS -- is up 20%, perhaps in part because of parent CBS' strong primetime performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsguy 0 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I really hate that show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewsJunkie247 1 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 WPXI-TV in Pittsburgh is another exception to The Jay Leno Show hurting 11PM newscast's ratings on NBC affiliates. "The Jay Leno Show," which is hurting the late news ratings of NBC stations nationwide, has had less negative impact on Channel 11 because Pittsburgh is an above average market for Leno in prime time. In October, WPXI was in third place in households and the key demo but was basically on par with its pre-"Leno" ratings from July. Among local stations, the 11 p.m. news on WPXI saw the most ratings growth from its lead-in. Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09303/1009371-67.stm#ixzz0VZ2oruND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw-804 190 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 "Leno's" still killing WBAL according to the Baltimore Sun. http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2009/11/the_jay_leno_factor_is_killing.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw-804 190 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Bad news for WWBT-NBC12: According to VARTV.com, WTVR's (CBS 6) 11:00 news was the number one source for news in October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueflag 0 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 But wait, there's more: 'Leno' got beat by *'SpongeBob'*! 'Not only did SpongeBob log more viewers than Jay on Friday -- 8 million to Jay's 5 million -- but he also copped more of the 18-to-49-year-old audience Jay targets so assiduously and SpongeBob does not.' http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/10/AR2009111017834.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewsJunkie247 1 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 But wait, there's more: 'Leno' got beat by *'SpongeBob'*! 'Not only did SpongeBob log more viewers than Jay on Friday -- 8 million to Jay's 5 million -- but he also copped more of the 18-to-49-year-old audience Jay targets so assiduously and SpongeBob does not.' http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/10/AR2009111017834.html SERIOUSLY!!!! NBC has hit a new low!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ntropolis 593 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Friday night's Spongebob was a special extended episode. What's it doing on at 10pm though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw-804 190 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Friday night's Spongebob was a special extended episode. Yeah, its tenth anniversary thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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