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Finally, we get to see (for the first time in a long time) what the 20/20 opening was like in the 1989-90 season, with the broadcast of Fri. Jan. 5, 1990 (I was oh so excited when I saw this after that long dry spell).

13 hours ago, WWUpdate said:

Tom Brokaw leaves Today, 1981:

 

 

And Bryant Gumbel makes his debut, 1/4/82 (this next Jan. 4 will mark 40 years):

Just now, WWUpdate said:

 

I don't know if this was the only reason, but at the time, the news divisions of NBC's five O&Os were under direct control of NBC News. (Reuven Frank talks about this in his biography.)

Even if it wasn't the only reason, it's still a very good one-- very informative response. I'll have to look up that bio-- seems very interesting.

On 7/23/2021 at 10:44 AM, WWUpdate said:

WMAQ, Chicago; 10 p.m., 1967 (We've seen brief clips of this newscast before, but I don't remember ever seeing the whole thing):

 

 

Why would this WMAQ Chicago 1967 late edition have a title that would make it seem like it was being shown directly on NBC, instead of on WMAQ (NBC News Night Report)?

On 6/30/2021 at 10:43 PM, Yankees4life said:

Yep. It's 77 alright. Jim Gardner barely has any grays

True-- he was only 29 then; he got his start quite early!

KAMR Channel 4 (NBC Amarillo, TX): News 4 evening edition for Monday, Jan. 25, 1993, w/Mary Allison, Lynn Walker, Steve McCauley weather, and Steve Sain on sports

1 hour ago, wabceyewitness said:

If this awful “rebrand” of the ABC logo and Circle 7 co-logos is forced on stations, will they also change the signage inside and outside the WABC studios that are connected to ABC HQ?  And what about all the O&Os and affiliates with signage on their sets and buildings? 
 

That's a great question-- how would that play with other luminary stations of that family like 6ABC in Philly (WPVI) and ABC11 in the Triangle (WTVD)?

5 hours ago, TexasTVNews said:

I second that!

I third it-- think about what it would have been like if the ABC logo change discussed here had been in one of ABC's movie broadcast openings of the 80s, like the Star Tunnel; how would that have played w/viewers of the time?

3 hours ago, AceHawk447 said:

In 1986, the peacock logo went from eleven feathers to the current six.

Which is the way we've known NBC for 3.5 decades (anniversary this year)!

1 hour ago, noggi said:

Thought you might enjoy this graphic from WPVI’s GM

It certainly hits the spot w/me, does Action News on 6ABC; even if I'm there only a few minutes (I see it on the 6ABC app), just those few minutes of Jim Gardner really hit the spot for me.

On 4/27/2021 at 9:34 AM, WWUpdate said:

Another freshy uploaded WMAQ clip, this time the 10 p.m. news from 1982. The station was still using the NewsCenter 5 branding in the open -- but, as you can see here, it was already being phased out, with even the lower-thirds referring to Channel 5 News:

 

 

 

And there is the late Jim Tilmon with weather, and the late Chet Coppock on sports (also, it's great to see the full version of a Chicago newscast [this 1982 WMAQ late edition] that was originally on that same channel as just clips).

On 4/26/2021 at 12:19 PM, iron_lion said:

Does Fox care (at least in my view) that have a brand confusion issue? The news division casting a shadow over the entire entity.   WFXT "Fox 25" in Boston even went as far as to rename themselves "Boston 25" to escape the Fox News associated conservative bias misidentification from viewers. 

I guess they didn't want people thinking their local news was all politics (I would imagine that; I may be incorrect).

19 minutes ago, ABC 7 Denver said:

 

That's exactly what I'm insinuating!

Didn't know that!

On 11/24/2020 at 11:20 PM, ABC 7 Denver said:

 

It's also why stations should immediately air the local newscast at the end of the network newscast instead of another ad break. More adverts after the end of the network feed allows people to wonder away from broadcast programming to cable.

And when I grew up, I remember (at least once) seeing WSOC's Eyewitness News evening edition ending, and then going right to Peter Jennings in New York on WNT (a reverse version of what you're saying).

47 minutes ago, Newsjunkie24 said:

 

I thought they removed the ticker during daytime programming.

That could be it-- I think that's the best answer. I got in a frenzy, and assumed the worst-- I appreciate you quoting what I said and reminding me about FOX's daytime program policies.

Thanks again!

Just noticed that FOX "News" doesn't have a ticker right now-- have you noticed that?

2 hours ago, tyrannical bastard said:

With the older 20/20 set, was that the first one introduced for the permanent re-tooling of the show following the disastrous original concept?  The original concept only lasted one episode, and Hugh Downs hosted the rest of the season on a scaled-down version of the original concept and set.

 

Here's the original set

 

and the setup Hugh Downs used for the remaining episodes...

Not quite-- this was the version that first would have Hugh Downs by himself, and then would have him and Barbara Walters (it would last, IINM, from 1979-89):

The 1989 set I posted recently (I probably didn't make it clear) was apparently the prototype for the 90s set; the version starting in the 90s had the ABC News logo on top of the backdrop to be more defined, and the 20/20 title had the figure attached to it to be slimmed down to a more rectangular shape, as opposed to a large square shape on the 1989 set:

Bumping this up: this is the first version of what the 20/20 set design would look like that would last for the better part of the 90s (captured from WCBD 1989 newsbrief from radioman1968):

Are all his videos back, or is he having to start over?

On 3/13/2021 at 10:24 PM, newsteam13 said:

I love old school newscasts, promos, theme music, as the next homie.

You bet-- not only do I enjoy that, but I like the same thing when it comes to print; I have a growing collection of old-school newspapers from when I was a boy (and at least one from before that); papers these days, just like television news, are not what they used to be.

1 hour ago, RCA TK47 said:

 

I figured it would only be a matter of time.

What happened? Did the stations embargo their old newscasts?

On 3/2/2021 at 12:49 PM, T.L. Hughes said:

 

This newscast has a different video headshot of Steve Alvarez (at 0:44) than the version I've seen elsewhere on YT. Compare the Summer/Fall(?) '91 version to the one of him seen (at 0:52) in this newscast from May '92, with him giving a friendlier smile:

I'm guessing viewer reaction to the first version of his talent open headshot might not have been favorable, prompting it to be reshot; the way Alvarez grins in the '91 version looks inadvertently like how you'd think a serial killer or Bond villain would smile.

I never knew that the sports man on WPLG Eyewitness News then (Alvarez) would present himself in his billing in such a manner that the viewers didn't care for (seemingly scary face) in 1991, leading to being billed with a friendlier face in 1992.

BTW, the word "billing" as used in this response is (and I realize the official term is "talent open") my use of that word to describe how the anchors are introduced to us, whether at the top like this one is, or somewhere in the middle.

On 2/27/2021 at 1:01 PM, SoFloTVClassics said:

WTVJ Channel 4 News 6pm 1991

 

That WTVJ evening edition had Jose Diaz-Balart long before where he is today as weekend anchor on NBC Nightly News.

On 10/27/2020 at 12:49 PM, 5OnYourSideMan said:

Here is the set to 20/20. 

Love the look of that one, especially the story panel/table of contents to the left of where Hugh Downs sat from our view (Hugh's right).

Former CBS Sports man Irv Cross (he of The NFL Today on Sundays, alongside legends Brent Musburger, Phyllis George, Jimmy "The Greek," et al.) has passed on at 81.

https://nypost.com/2021/02/28/irv-cross-nfl-veteran-and-cbs-broadcaster-dead-at-81/

Also, a 1982 edition of The NFL Today, in remembrance: