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-No CBS logos on the ANF website, which is normal when stations are losing their affiliation; -Meredith renewed their CBS contract in 3-year increments, the last contract was in 2020, probably ending in 2023; -Low rated station CBS wouldn't miss; -CBS dumping CW from CBS-owned Channel 69; -Better dial position (hit the down button from Channel 2 and 69 is where you end up); -Maximum power signal at 1000 KW. All signs are pointing to this being the new WJXT, WISH, WHDH.
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I'm sorry I got everybody off on a tangent, but CBS needed some place to park the CW back in the old days. Now they don't. But just take a look at the WANF website. Not a CBS logo in sight. I don't think it's a stretch to think they are going the way of WISH, WJXT and WHDH. Gray didn't have to do anything just as Sunbeam didn't have to do anything in Boston. CBS may just want to bring things in house. What you see in this Detroit launch will probably end up being relevant in Atlanta. I just noticed the Atlanta News First thread below. Sorry if I went off on a tangent. LOL
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I think over on the other thread they said that CBS is dropping CW in Atlanta and at least one other city. That's not speculation. The speculation part was that they were going to turn Channel 69 into CBS for Atlanta. I think given what you see when you go to atlantanewsfirst.com you can take that out of the speculation category. I think it has legs. Just my opinion.
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Yeah, but not a single CBS logo on their homepage? You really have to dig on their website to find any reference to CBS. I couldn't find any. Since the Detroit News launch seems to be going well, don't be surprised if Atlanta isn't next. They already have a 30-minute newscast produced in Dallas. Also, if you dig back into google, there was an announcement in March, 2020 about Meredith re-upping with CBS. The previous renewal was in 2017 so we are on a 3-year timeline. Sorry if this is speculation, but given what the WANF website looks like, I think it's more than speculation at this point.
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Also: This is going to dovetail well with CBS having the rights to Big Ten Football this season. Big Ten on Saturday, NFL on Sunday ... maybe they can get some traction for the station with a slick-looking newscast.
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I think you guys are on to something about Atlanta. If you go to their website, not a single mention of CBS that I can see, at least not on the home page. https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com Titan TV (through their website) shows the ANF Logo and not CBS.
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1. I love talent with great/interesting voices. Everybody sounds like high school kids these days! Love interesting talent like Milton Lewis. Lively, entertaining--nothing wrong with that whatsoever. Why bore people to death with a bunch of milquetoast stiffs? It's the local news. It's not really as serious as some people pretend it should be. 2. Wow, a demonstration that actually looks like it could be organic. Can't remember the last time I saw something like that on TV. Now it's predominantly all rent-a-mobs. 3. With the Atlanta rumors, maybe they should have held on to some of those CW stations they previously divested. Like Providence, Columbus and Indianapolis. CBS News Providence? CBS News Indianapolis?
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Right now, the main advantage I see with free streaming is that the picture quality is generally better than OTA. The main OTA Channel may look good, but subchannels tend to be fuzzier. ATSC 3.0 is supposed to alleviate that. If that's what ends up happening, I don't really see what you need cable TV for. Just program the sub channels better and put everything up on there and make it easy for people.
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They can stream all they want, but they're never going to get me. And to be honest, I don't really miss anything they're not offering anymore enough to pay. Pretty stupid and shortsighted to give up the biggest platform they have. If anything, they should augment it with social media, sending texts, reminding people to go into their TV set to watch a show. I use the free streaming plenty, so I'm not just some old guy who refuses to try something new. I just think the free OTA platform is easiest and most convenient for people. I pay for the local newspaper and the Wall Street Journal. Anything else I have to pay for, I can live without.
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Sinclair Broadcast Group - General Discussion
DirtyHarry replied to Smitha A's topic in Corporate Chat
YIKES! So, at 5:00 p.m. out of 50,000 adults, 13,000 of them are age 25 to 54. That means 37,000 of them are old geezers (as consumer spenders, that is). At 6:00 p.m., out of 67,000 people, 17,000 are age 25 to 54. The remaining 50,000 are old geezers. Yikes again! -
Is the mother white or black? Her dialect is kind of black but she doesn't really look it at all. Just curious, no ill intent.
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Playing devil's advocate, maybe that's why they wanted to keep virtual channel 3 so badly in Las Vegas!
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Sinclair Broadcast Group - General Discussion
DirtyHarry replied to Smitha A's topic in Corporate Chat
Enough time has passed. Time for Fox 28 to become Fox 6, unless they plan on returning to 28 at some point. My theory was that they were trying to jam TBD down the throats of cable companies by forcing it as 28.1. Or maybe this all has to do with all the shuffling around that had to occur for 3.0 since both ABC and Fox are at 720p. Maybe it just made more sense bandwidth wise to have them on the WSYX signal. -
Gray has CBS, NBC and CW; Hubbard own ABC and My TV in that market so I don't know what the problem is. Forum owns the newspaper and the industry is dying. If anything, this would help the newspaper survive. By the way, I was watching Distro Tv just to see what they had. I saw WDIO on the choice of channels and decided to watch their news. Their main anchor guy is great. Middle-aged guy, obviously experienced in the market. He is larger-market material (larger than Duluth, that is). The sports kid on tonight was also pretty good. He's going to have a good career. The female sports director was out covering a dog race and she didn't seem too bad, either. The weather chick was okay, but she sounded like she was reading cue cards. She's been there a year and a half. You would think she'd be more natural by now. Also two black chicks that were reporters, talk about fish out of water. (In Duluth?) They both seemed nice enough, but they're both mush mouths. I hope they get better. They need to give all three of them elocution lessons. I always loved watching small market TV. Newscast overall was pretty good. Interesting enough and watchable.
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Sinclair Broadcast Group - General Discussion
DirtyHarry replied to Smitha A's topic in Corporate Chat
I think next Nexstar and Sinclair cooperate with each other in general. I know Nexstar runs a Sinclair station somewhere in Illinois I believe. And Nexstar has owned Antenna TV and this TV for now how long now? They are still both on Sinclair signals. They seem to have a you scratch my back I scratch yours relationship. -
I was watching Bounce last night and just curious about the logistics. Right on the money, "WSFJ-TV, LONDON, OHIO" appears at the top of the hour. I'm assuming that it is hubbed somewhere? Do they hub it here in Ohio or with the other ION stations? First of all, why isn't anybody smart enough to type "LONDON - COLUMBUS" into the computer? Second, I'm curious why they picked London as their city of license. It was Newark before, and that's about 50 miles away on the other side of Columbus. Also, they channel-share with an LPTV station. That adds another link in the chain that could possibly break. Who monitors that? Do they have to have a local presence anymore? Like an office or a studio somewhere in town? Do they have local public service requirements they have to meet anymore? And if they were smart, just as a marketing gimmick, they would bring back the WLWC call letters. I'm sure they'll just keep running this on autopilot, but if they ever do want to turn this into a real TV station, you might be able to get noticed in the market that way (like WWJ). WSFJ stands for "Winning Souls for Jesus." I wonder if anybody at Scripps even realizes that.
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One more thing. I have four TVs in my house and none of them are smart tvs. One has a Roku box, another one is a small kitchen TV, and two tube tvs, one in the office and one in my garage. Three of those four TVs are exclusively OTA.
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I don't know what OTA viewership is now percentage-wise. I know cable penetration is way down. I'm sure some of that has gone to OTT, but you would have to think that OTA viewership has also grown. Look at it this way, Detroit has something like 1.9 million households in its DMA, not counting Canada, Toledo, Flint, Cleveland and wherever Detroit signals go. The old number was 10% for OTA and it has to be a minimum of 20% these days. That's a market of almost 400,000 people. That's comparable to Charleston-Huntington and Omaha. Yes, I would say that's important.
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My take is that it's real estate and you have to make it easy for your customer to find you, just like any other consumer driven business. I realize that viewers aren't the real customers in media, but media still depends on attracting eyeballs.
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Sinclair Broadcast Group - General Discussion
DirtyHarry replied to Smitha A's topic in Corporate Chat
I don't know if this is just people blowing smoke, but it makes sense. My understanding was that NBC bought Outlet because they were trying to figure out if they could move WJAR to Boston. They didn't care about any of the other stations. Once they figured out they wouldn't be able to move WJAR, they sold. -
Sinclair Broadcast Group - General Discussion
DirtyHarry replied to Smitha A's topic in Corporate Chat
I don't think Media General was so bad. They had financial problems but their on air product was respectable, and they still treated WCMH and WFLA like their flagships. Outlet was a great owner. Everybody says the NBC years were good, but I wasn't a fan. When you're too cheap to build a new news set and have to get one second hand from Louisville, that's pretty shoddy. Likewise with their cameras. I think I remember them bragging about new cameras they were getting being used models from Rockefeller Center. LOL -
And furthermore, I can't think of any place other than Louisville, Birmingham and maybe Chicago where a UHF station has been able to drag itself out of the cellar it has VHF competition. By and large, low channel numbers are the most successful.
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What's not to understand? Cable TV used to have 90% penetration, now it's 50%. That means people are using good old-fashioned channel numbers. What's so hard to understand about making it easy for people to see you and get to you, instead of having to sort through a bunch of Mexican, home shopping and preacher channels to get to you all the way up where all the crappy TV stations are on the high end of the dial. What's so hard to understand that people like using channel up and channel down buttons to flip through TV channels but that their patience isn't endless? (Try flipping through a couple of those LPTVs with 12 sub channels of crap all fired up.) Finally, what's so hard to understand that by and large TV stations with VHF Channel numbers get better ratings than people with UHF Channel numbers? Programmers fight to get low channel numbers on cable, Sinclair fought to keep their low channel in Las Vegas, Block jumped through a few legal hoops so they could be Channel 8 in Lima, too, NBC tried to get the lowest channel number it could in Boston. If it didn't matter, people wouldn't be going through all this effort.
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Sinclair Broadcast Group - General Discussion
DirtyHarry replied to Smitha A's topic in Corporate Chat
Why when they are number one without her? Columbus was the second or third market Sinclair was in and they still treat it like a flagship. Next best thing to local ownership is a big corporate owner that hasn't forgotten its roots. Yeah, but now they have stations like KOMO and WJLA, so I am very surprised that it retains crown jewel status. My theory has always been that Columbus is a profitable Market because there are few overlapping signals that eat away at their viewership. That's been good for us. Even far-away corporate ownership has treated these stations well over the years. Oh, okay. I knew they were the WOLF anchors, but I thought they were based in PA. -
Of course, you have to have the product to back up the channel number. If you have a crappy product, channel number isn't going to help you But don't discount how helpful it would be, either. Especially if you have a crappy brand like Channel 62. It's like having a shop at a good mall, versus the plaza down the street.