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On 8/4/2020 at 5:48 PM, ABC 7 Denver said:

 

So regardless of my opinion, the ratings aren't exactly soaring. That's quite enough for me to see that she doesn't make a compelling anchor or ME. That, informing my opinion, doesn't make me look too kindly on the move to DC. Also, since the formatting is pretty much identical across networks, I would have blown that up instead of weakly leaning into it. Honestly, the network national program concept is sinking pretty quickly and a reinvention to inspire whatever viewers are remaining would be good.

I couldn't agree more, the CBS News devision needs a complete reinvention. I know the idea of moving the Evening News isn't a popular one but I really think CBS should move it to 10pm for every timezone (11pm for some stations), rebrand it as the CBS National News or keep it as the Evening News branding if you want, but mainly follow the BBC format of serious stories and a strong world focus. The main thing I would incorporate from the BBC is the rotating anchor format and I would have the broadcast originate live for all timezones, New York or D.C. would handle the Eastern and Central timezones and Los Angeles would cover the Mountain and Pacific timezones, I know that would add an extra cost but it would make sense with it being on later and being live so the stories are current. Late local news would be on immediately after at 10:30 (or 11:30), and the affiliates would get an extra half hour at 5:30 / 6:30 or whenever they air the evening news which would make up for the late news being on later. I don't know what they'd do on the weekends especially on nights with sports but they could figure something out, something like a 15 min broadcast on weekends would work since sports normally goes longer than expected delaying local news. 

In terms of Norah, I really liked her on CTM but have absolutely hate her on the evening news, it seems so forced and manufactured. The "breaking news" for everything is out of control. I grew up watching Katie and later Scott, on his last night I was holding in tears as he said goodbye, he ignited my passion for journalism and CBS hasn't been the same since he was forced out, Jeff grew on me and stared to find his groove when they got rid of him. In true CBS fashion Norah will be gone within 2 years from now and they'll be stuck again. Its kinda sad how they are the most watched network but in dead last place when it comes to news, they need to find a way to keep those viewers for network newscasts and that's why I really think the success of their primetime line up could be a great lead in and give CBS success at 10pm / 11pm. I know many of you don't like the idea and will bring up ad revenue, local stations, ownership groups and all kinds of other stuff but seriously, its worth a shot, they don't have much to lose at this point. The affiliates would get over it, adapt and benefit from an extra 30 min in the evening and could benefit from a strong lead in to late local news (yes I know they already have one from primetime). Local stations could even keep a news at 10pm / 11pm just on a sub channel or streaming online / CBSN local if they really wanted to keep that broadcast.

We can respectfully talk about this if anyone wishes to as long as we don't bash the idea or me. 

5 hours ago, Viper550 said:

Noticed NBC changed up the graphics they've been using for the COVID coverage, MSNBC included.

 

They look a lot more like the election graphics, and I honestly wouldn't mind if they kept this look full-time because its pretty sharp.

I agree, the new COVID graphics look great. The lower thirds are more soft and the open could easily be adapted to live rolling news, simply swap out the COVID pictures and insert pictures from news as it's happening (just like ABC News Australia's open) make other subtle changes to fit MSNBC day time and it would be awesome. I also like how they are doing the headlines with the graphics and new format for them, the headlines stand out way more than they have in recent years, adding a newsy feel to MSNBC daytime which has been lacking recently. 

It will be interesting to see how CBS does weekends after all of this is over. Hopefully they’ll move the weekend news into the CBS “news hub” (formerly studio 47) it looks great on tv and worked much better than the cluttered, odd studio 57 newsroom set. 

On 4/9/2020 at 10:57 PM, Drew said:

Deadline: White House has been starting at 3:30pm for the last week so I wonder if this is the signs it might expand to two hours maybe 3–5p. 
 

Chuck has also been doing the 1pm hour after Andrea I am thinking they might move. MTP Daily to that slot and make Katy  Tur 2 hours between chuck and Nicolle. Put Joshua Johnson in at 5pm. 
 

I agree with putting Joshua Johnson on at 5P, they can do what ever they want with Chuck, I certainly wouldn't miss MTP Daily.

Personal I think they should re-do the schedule to what I have below:

Deadline WH viewers are familiar with John Heilemann so that would be a easy change at 4P,  Joshua Johnson would be a refreshing change at 5P compared to MTP Daily,  regular viewers know and love Steve Kornacki and he filled in for Hardball so it makes since to put him at 7P,  moving Nicole Wallace to 8P would be great lead in to Rachel and she would bring in new viewers who don't normally watch MSNBC primetime,  and lastly, since Lawrence O'Donnell has indicated he would like to retire in early 2021 (post inauguration) moving Chris Hayes to 10P would help his ratings with Rachel becoming his lead in and since All In is geared towards younger viewers he would be more poised to achieve that and receive a nice ratings bump from Rachel. 

Leave Ari, Rachel and Brian where they are and the focus on stability and filling the open slots on the daytime schedule daily left open by Ali Velshi and prepare for Andrea Mitchell to retire. Give Chris Jansing an hour or 2, expand Stephanie Rhule's slot and figure out what you want to do with Katy Tur, Hallie Jackson and Craig Melvin going forward then fine tune the weekends so you can really compete. 

The schedule would be:

4P-John Heilemann 

5P-Joshua Johnson 

6P- Ari Melber

7P-Steve Kornacki

8P-Nicole Wallace

9P-Rachel Maddow

10P-Chris Hayes 

11P-Brian Williams 

Ali Velshi's new weekend morning show debuts tomorrow as he leaves weekdays, "Velshi" will be on from 8A-10A ET, I'm guessing the rest of the new MSNBC schedule will debut over the coming weekends. Does anyone know what MSNBC will be doing with the 2 hours every weekday Ali anchored/co-anchored?

5 hours ago, hfiles said:

I wish HLN would do more non-political news as a contrast to CNN. Or that CNN would stop being so fixated on 24/7 Trump coverage.

HLN had a good thing going for it, (think where they were just 18 months ago) Carol and Michaela still had shows and they were fresh and added energy to the network, it worked until CNN decided it wasn't good enough. I know they recently gave Lynn and Mike new shows but the pivot they've taken towards crime news has really turned people away, Lynn and Mike will only last a year or 2 and they'll decided to "pivot" again. HLN needs a new owner and a new brand focused on what made them relevant in the first place, headlines and real, non-political news. I think a real Headline News channel still has a place in this country and people would watch given the choice. 

Brianna Keiler is anchoring "CNN Special Coverage" exclusively on HLN as they carry coverage of the impeachment inquiry and the Presidents news conference, HLN will also re-air the entire impeachment hearings tonight staring at 7pm Eastern. Seems like a good way to show off Brianna and all she can do. 

11 minutes ago, GoldenShine9 said:

 

If it's at 11 pm (10 pm Central), the affiliates would likely scream at that thought. They would be forced to delay local news until 11:30 pm and it would bottle up everything else.

 

As for news in the 10 pm (9 pm CT) hour, that would cost CBS an hour of prime time. Would the ratings justify it though? What kind of ratings does CBS network TV get in that hour?

I was thinking have it air at 10pm in every market. Who cares if it's from a few hours ago, it can always be updated if needed and they have the "western edition" it's the same thing they do now. Local news could come on at 10:30 in most markets unless they choose to have the EN on at 11 then local at 11:30. In terms of the 9pm ratings, the other night (10/21/19) CBS got 5.4M viewers. But they wouldn't need to eliminate any of the shows they have, just delay local news by 30 minuets. 

I have a question, if the CBS Evening News can't gain viewership and find stability, what if CBS moved it to a later time slot?

I'm thinking CTV National News, BBC News at 10, CBC The National, that kind of route. I'm sure local stations and ownership groups wouldn't like the idea but it would set CBS apart from everyone else and have national network news when other don't, basically no competition. I don't know the feasibility of it or how late local news would work with the Evening News being on later (say 10pm in every market?) but theoretically it could work based off the success of other networks around the world that do it. 

So I don't think that's where the new video walls are. NBC News Correspondent Morgan Radford was filming a segment in the Today kitchen last night and posted this on her Instagram, you can clearly see the old Kathy Lee and Hoda set still there. I believe the new video walls are in the opposite corner where the windows overlook the plaza.  You can watch Morgans video & see the area I think the new walls are in. 

Here you can see the Graphics and small set they are using. I really like the look, would be a great O&O package with some tweaks.