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7 hours ago, EricTheEnthusiast said:

WVUE debuted the new graphics this morning. It’s no surprise .. we all guessed the package. Here are some screenshots. 

This is like going from MG’s last graphics package (WCMH, WFLA, WKRN) to Nexstar NBC graphics, a package that is the symbol of failure. Great job, Gray. 

14 hours ago, tyrannical bastard said:

I"m hoping the WBTV package is the one that WVUE eventually ends up with.  It's probably the most "major market" look they have right now.

Then again, it would look a lot like WGNO's package, especially with the way the lower thirds are designed.

 

Graphic packages aside, as long as it doesn't look totally awful and makes the on-air product look like garbage, WVUE should be just fine.

Not really, the WOIO and Meredith graphics are the most “large-market” looks they have.

On 3/31/2022 at 6:32 PM, Myron Falwell said:

Easiest move to make is using 19.2 as a full-power SD simulcast of WTCL 6.1.

With that crappy encoder and VHF? No way!

17 hours ago, ttvn2000 said:

Glad to hear Matt Quinn is in charge - I enjoy his aesthetic.  This also means the Meredith legacy stations should stay in tact for a while…

 

Hopefully, WVUE is on his radar… 

Local graphics as well. Matt Quinn and his division of Hothaus are in Cleveland, where there is a Gray station in that market (WOIO) which is how this thread started.

3 hours ago, wabceyewitness said:

CBS Evening News recently ran a story that aired over a month ago on CBS Mornings, offered no update and even trimmed it down from its original package. 
 

more from FTV Live: 

https://www.ftvlive.com/sqsp-test/2022/3/24/recycling-the-news-at-cbs

I wish there was a “disgusted” reaction on this site.

On 2/27/2022 at 2:21 AM, Yankees4life said:

That leaves WVUE, KCBD, KAUZ/KSWO as the remaining stations with the old Raycom graphics

Updated. I’m thinking KSWO is next.

10 minutes ago, iron_lion said:

He needs to jump channels and guest host for Norah O'Donell, LOL.

Norah O'Donnell is the master controller of the entire CBS network. Who can replace her?

Just now, HoosierNewsie said:

Realistically speaking, a graphics package isn’t going to make or break a station. 

A graphics package definitely won't make a station, but it could make the station so much of an eyesore that the viewers associate the station with bad design. That discourages viewers from tuning in. Just look at WSB, which despite having a perfectly modern product is losing viewers at a faster than average rate.

On 3/14/2022 at 3:07 PM, GoldenShine9 said:

 

WSAV is still 2nd in ratings in the market, or has WJCL passed them? (I know WTOC is far ahead of both of them)

Any station using Nexstar NBC graphics is going to have their competition cream them. WJCL should've passed WSAV at this point.

On 2/22/2022 at 11:48 PM, tyrannical bastard said:

It's been a while since I've chimed in on this thread....but going back to the ratings post that was posted back in November....

 

Newsmax getting 5 times the ratings of NewsNation should be setting off the alarm bells.  Nexstar could try to fix this, if they ramped up distribution of NewsNation on OTT platforms,  as digital subchannels, or even simulcasting some programs on their MyNetwork and independent channels.  But they seemed maligned to try and cook what's left of the goose that was WGN America, as people are leaving pay TV in droves, and the network that has 5 times the viewership on NewsNation could be in jeopardy itself if pay tv providers decide to pull the plug for them.

 

Nexstar really needs to seize this opportunity, because if they don't, the ratings will continue to suck and they will soon have to admit defeat.  It's well past time for Nexstar to get into the 21st century and take the streaming off their web sites and get more into the OTT realm!!!!

I'm also concerned with Nexstar's relation to NBC. It seems like WFLA and WCMH are the only Nexstar stations that seem to be caring about NBC in the slightest bit. They're also well behind their competition in terms of OTT capabilities. These stations do not need NewsNation on them at all. On an unrelated note, I've seen Nexstar leave its largest market stations alone whereas they forcefeed programming on their smaller market stations.

10 hours ago, Weeters said:

I was going to write something out defending the concept of TV graphic artists copying each other, but it's really not just a problem there. The whole industry copies each other's work. Look at how many stations just blatantly copied WSVN's format in the 90's and early 2000's. The whole industry functions by taking what works in one market and either improving on it or just straight up copying it.

I don't think WCMH (which used a variation of the WFLA graphics) stood up to WBNS very well. Morris copied WCMH to complete their $50 look. 

On 2/28/2022 at 2:24 PM, EricTheEnthusiast said:

WDSU switched their news to HD around the same time as WGNO debuted its HD news and new graphics and set. I can't remember which station was first, but they were both around the same time.

Their Wikipedia pages haven't been updated, but it says both are in widescreen SD. WDSU switched to HD in August of 2020. I don't think WGNO is in HD yet, but feel free to correct me.

7 hours ago, qunewsguy said:

New promos released by WLS featuring Proxima Nova fonts and a decidedly different end screen. 

 

That's a retool of their existing package with new fonts. New promo graphics generally don't mean much.

8 minutes ago, J1975am said:

Wait: Isn’t Maury Povich calling it quits with his show at the end of this season?? That alone might be the reason why the show will soon be off WJZ’s airwaves…..

And that's why CBS is doing this. Also in every other market, CBS can create a local news monopoly at this timeslot or create competition against independents/CW affiliates airing local news.

1 hour ago, Georgie56 said:

Scott Jones is reporting that all CBS O&Os will launch a 9am newscast soon.

 

https://www.ftvlive.com/sqsp-test/2022/3/7/more-news-in-b-more

The end of Maury on WJZ? Never thought I'd see that day...

3 minutes ago, kfc513 said:

Was browsing through Tristan Bresnen's portfolio and I noticed a new look he produced for News Channel Nebraska. But it looks like a repurposed version of WFLA's graphics from 2016-2020 (that was also used on sister stations WKRN, WCMH and KELO). It's mostly the same besides it mostly being red instead of blue, as well as different looking Lower 3rds and Full Screens. Here's his case study: https://tristanbresnen.com/copy-of-currents-news-v2

 

 

WFLA 2016:

 

 

News Channel Nebraska 2022:

 

I notice the News Channel Nebraska version is using more "WHDH-esque" fonts. It's already a dated look.

Just now, qunewsguy said:

They're in it for the affiliation not the channel position. Odds are Telemundo will wind up on one of WGCL's subchannels.

If they were trying to do that, Gray would be doing a non-license assets “reaper strike” rather than going through the trouble of FCC approval. WGCL has a more than adequate signal, so translators are generally not needed.

5 hours ago, TexasTVNews said:

I'm more than 100% agree to that, and I'll drink to that. I said it before, Byron Allen is the only one he can clean up the mess Tegna made.

I strongly disagree. Allen basically lets his stations exist, without putting money in them. Tegna is basically just a bank for its stations, and the stations decide what goes on the air and what doesn’t. My personal fear is that these stations will no longer have the money to keep running, and the cheap*****s at Apollo will just hand it over to dead-end companies like HC2.  

6 hours ago, tyrannical bastard said:

 

Since then, the station has risen to become the #1 station in New Orleans, with it's own doing, and helped by the declining fortunes of WWL, mostly at the behest of their owners and CBS.

Basically just CBS and whoever is running WWL right now, some of whom were there under Belo ownership. By the way, we should definitely have a logo discussion thread.

11 hours ago, Justin Hill said:

Seeing that new WAVE logo reminds me of other local TV stations that got on the retro logo bandwagon:

 

* KSTP-TV 5 of Minneapolis, Minnesota switched to a logo resembling their red and white 1982 logo.

    

 

* WMAR-TV 2 of Baltimore, Maryland is currently using a logo that resembles their original 1975 logo.

   

I like how neither of the “new” logos have the current ABC logo. I know that KSTP switched to the current ABC logo already. But dang, the Gray graphics thread is turning into a logo discussion thread. @24994JWe should have a logo discussion thread.

David Mugar has passed away at 82. This is from the station he once owned.

17 minutes ago, GodfreyGR said:

It's the '98 Camry of news desks- CBS is gonna get 100,000+ miles out of that sucker!

And it still works fine!

Uh, quick question? LIM4.1 isn't designed to run on VizRT, but the Gray ticker, which only runs on VizRT, is present. What system is WFIE/KGMB using?

2 minutes ago, Wildish said:

New CBS news package

 

 

That's a nice graphics package! Finally brings America on par with the rest of the world in terms of motion graphics.

On 1/19/2022 at 1:02 PM, Axiom81 said:

On 1/21/2022 at 7:44 PM, 24994J said:

WCSC only debuted their current logo in 2019. Not brand new, but unlike WAVE, they're not dealing with a 20 year old relic. A special logo for the anniversary, sure, but I highly doubt there'd be something totally new (old).

That logo doesn't look like it's from 2019. That logo looks like it came out in 2008.