channel2 979 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Does anyone here know how old they are? The NMSA says that WWJ 62 commissioned Ultra News, and by the dates on the stations there, it dates to at least 1995. Power News dates to at least 1997, and NMSA has no information on who commissioned that package or how old it is. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13930-non-stops-ultra-news-and-power-news/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToriElectra 292 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Well, for Power News, WJW was one of the initial users, as was WPHL, when they dropped the joint venture with the Philadelphia Inquirer and went to "WB17 News at Ten". Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13930-non-stops-ultra-news-and-power-news/#findComment-115782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewsMaster 226 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ultra would have to have started on WWJ in or before 1997, when 40/29 began using it. It was probably for its news magazine called InDepth Detroit, because WWJ didn't have a "normal" newscast until 2001. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13930-non-stops-ultra-news-and-power-news/#findComment-115792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I think Power News might have been commissioned by RTL, actually. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13930-non-stops-ultra-news-and-power-news/#findComment-115794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 979 Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 The dates in the NMSA seem wonky - I haven't found anything of RTL using Power News before 1998. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13930-non-stops-ultra-news-and-power-news/#findComment-115811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 The dates in the NMSA seem wonky - I haven't found anything of RTL using Power News before 1998. The NMSA is full of wonky dates like that. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13930-non-stops-ultra-news-and-power-news/#findComment-115815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1916 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 The dates in the NMSA seem wonky - I haven't found anything of RTL using Power News before 1998. I've looked into this before. I'm 99.5% positive that Power News was commissioned in 1997 by RTL, but I think Non-Stop started licensing it for US use right after it was delivered. Novocom's website also says they delivered a graphics package to RTL in 1997, but the thumbnail shows the pre-1997 graphics. There's a page further into their awfully outdated website that has a full breakdown of the package seen in that TVArk clip. There are tracks of Power News that seem to be written to be used for the (I think there's a term for these, but I forget what it is...) I know I've seen more videos of the 1997 look online, but they seem to have all been taken down. The NMSA's sources are ultimately people uploading things online and word of mouth. Much like Wikipedia, it probably shouldn't be used as a reliable source. I know they have WTMJ's current male VO artist wrong (It's Kelly Pidgeon, not David Tyler). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13930-non-stops-ultra-news-and-power-news/#findComment-115854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpb 36 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Off topic: amazing to see how dated everything looks that Novocom did. They went from being one of the finest broadcast graphics design firms to essentially being an also ran in just a few short years. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13930-non-stops-ultra-news-and-power-news/#findComment-115855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Ultra would have to have started on WWJ in or before 1997, when 40/29 began using it. It was probably for its news magazine called InDepth Detroit, because WWJ didn't have a "normal" newscast until 2001. That's correct. The KLTV listing is a mistake. ASCAP corroborates my belief that the package that KLTV/KTRE used was actually Non-Stop's USA News aka USA Package, one of the most elusive packages from a major news music company. Here's what I know about this package: #1. It was probably composed in 1992. Kurt Bestor is co-credited with the package, and he left Non-Stop that year. I suspect the client station was KUSA. #2. It was used by these stations (dates from ASCAP): KJCT (1993-95), KLTV/KTRE (1993-95), KOAM, KUSA (likely 1992-95), WAWS (1996-98), WUSA. Of these, two samples are available: KUSA's " " and possibly KTRE 1993 in the NMSA. To me, the musical signatures in both KUSA 1995 and KTRE 1993 are similar enough to suggest two cuts of the same package. Also... we have one YouTube clip of In Depth Detroit, from 1998. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13930-non-stops-ultra-news-and-power-news/#findComment-115868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanewsguy 511 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 From Wikipedia: In the fall of 1996, WWJ-TV presented a news special on the annual "Devil's Night" fires in Detroit. Maybe that's what Ultra was commissioned for? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/13930-non-stops-ultra-news-and-power-news/#findComment-115908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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