hmaxhanson 650 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 HLN's attempt at it bombed. Tegna's attempts are somehow still alive even after massive backlash. So now I must ask, is there any social-media focused newscast on TV that doesn't reek of corporate consulting? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16010-the-perfect-social-media-newscast-does-it-exist/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Block 1566 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 There's definitely a way to do it. Early on, stations tried forcing it by posing a "hot button" question to the TV audience and then read equal responses from social media through a dizzying series of fullscreens. Everyone eventually realized that was a big waste of airtime, and it wasn't a very effective way to engage the online audience. The right way to do it is to post editorial content to social media first and then use it to drive people to watch the newscast. Live videos and other stuff can get tons of views during the day, and then you can use that to get people to watch at 5/6/whenever. KGW's Facebook page is a really good example of this. Inside the actual newscast, social media is a tool that can supplement your own coverage. It's not what drives any story by any means, but if there's a fire somewhere but people post video and pictures online before you can get a photog or a reporter there, then use that. It's certainly better than just a map. You can also run photos and videos after the story to show how big of a story it is if people are posting a lot. But that's a 25 second read max. You have to use it judiciously. You can't overdo it, and you can't force social media engagement if it isn't already there. Also, it's really important to point out how much law enforcement and government agencies have embraced Twitter to publish breaking news. And let's not even get started on the orange man in the White House's Twitter feed. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16010-the-perfect-social-media-newscast-does-it-exist/#findComment-187047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
10Viewer 334 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Too much focus on trying to create controversy. Too much vapid discussion. Haven't seen it done. Bottom line. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16010-the-perfect-social-media-newscast-does-it-exist/#findComment-187049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColDayNews 438 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 WCMH did it for a bit in 2009 when social media was starting to catch on... It was called @5:30on4. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16010-the-perfect-social-media-newscast-does-it-exist/#findComment-187059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Good topic. Stations are still trying to beat the internet at all cost. It's lazy journo... And since there is NO a real 2-way conversation with station and viewers...then it will never be legit. Since we all know what happens when we allow the talent to tweet or post without guidelines... Well... Well... SM is it's own beast...let it be that...and only that. To cover and fully understand a community you need to go out into that community...NOT cover it via keyboard and Skype. TV news is NOT SM....never will be....nor should it be. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16010-the-perfect-social-media-newscast-does-it-exist/#findComment-187062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmaxhanson 650 Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 Good topic. Stations are still trying to beat the internet at all cost. It's lazy journo... And since there is NO a real 2-way conversation with station and viewers...then it will never be legit. Since we all know what happens when we allow the talent to tweet or post without guidelines... Well... Well... SM is it's own beast...let it be that...and only that. To cover and fully understand a community you need to go out into that community...NOT cover it via keyboard and Skype. TV news is NOT SM....never will be....nor should it be. Well said. I believe there should be WTSP/KXTV style newscast that's actually designed and created by people of the social-media revolution, not some 50+ year old guy in a suit and tie. I really liked the concept of TouchVision, back when NBC 40 here in town aired a half-hour of it at 5am in early 2015 after First Business got the boot. I found it was very innovative and fast paced. Maybe Weigel killed it off because they knew in advance that it would devolve into another "We Hate Trump" forum. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16010-the-perfect-social-media-newscast-does-it-exist/#findComment-187081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
10Viewer 334 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Social media is honestly causing a lot of problems with people in the media retweeting/posting insensitive material. Wonder if this little nugget led to Bob Clinkingbeard's demise in Tampa? http://www.ftvlive.com/sqsp-test/2017/6/23/kid-is-dead-lets-all-laugh You'd think media people would have more common sense. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16010-the-perfect-social-media-newscast-does-it-exist/#findComment-187096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
10Viewer 334 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 People watch TV news for context, and, dare I say it, truth. Newscasts should offer sober facts and not rumors or innuendo. Have the media ownership groups forgotten that? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16010-the-perfect-social-media-newscast-does-it-exist/#findComment-187097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1915 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 A lot of the early social media newscasts were half-baked ideas thought up by people who couldn't comprehend that people on social media aren't watching TV, and people not on social media are going to tune out of a show that's talking about the latest twits and facepages. What I HAVE seen working is shows broadcast primarily on Facebook Live that are formatted for the medium. I know WTMJ has a couple Facebook Live-exclusive shows (I haven't checked yet to see if they're still doing The Now on Facebook Live during the Packers shows on Monday and Tuesdays) that get people watching. These shows barely cost anything to produce and might be more attractive to some sponsors. Shows like the ill-conceived "U_News@4#Sarah Hill" that KOMU had years ago just don't work and won't work. If you're going to have a "social media newscast" it needs to be a newscast formatted for social media, not a newscast about social media. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16010-the-perfect-social-media-newscast-does-it-exist/#findComment-187104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandbyStandby 1 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Two stations ago, I worked for a station that tried an all social media newscast. It failed, miserably. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16010-the-perfect-social-media-newscast-does-it-exist/#findComment-187112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 We tried a facebook newscast on KBEX many years ago. We had 6 friends...but Dan-Dan (our transmitter man) got drunk and unfriended all 6 of them. Now KBEX-TV doesn't have ANY friends... (sad face guy). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16010-the-perfect-social-media-newscast-does-it-exist/#findComment-187139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathannah 2428 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 The problem with 'social media newscasts' is every time you try to engage the viewership, you get what I call the 'Tele-Press Problem'. Basically, our local paper had an open phone line in the early 90s which was obstinately created for people who felt too much pressure to write a letter to the editor, or just wanted to sound off quickly about some issue. It started off as that...and soon the Tele-Press column became overwhelmed by cranks who just wanted to whine about government, young people, politics, and the paper removing the bridge column by a guy who died in 1976 or whatever. Then it denigrated down to community gossip and personal attacks and that's when the paper said 'enough' and pulled the line. Same for WTMJ in the early Twitter/Facebook age (along with an open phone line); we'd get a basic question, and at first intelligent responses were posted. Then the cranks began to overwhelm the responses and soon, sane people didn't want to go anywhere near WTMJ's social segments. The station recovered after Bill Berra cleared out thankfully and has been more judicious about who gets on these segments, so there's fine tuning and moderation that must be done to make these social segments work. And you can't just throw on any old response; you have to do a basic timeline read to make sure some extremist on either side doesn't get free airtime. So I think it can be done, but only if you do the same legwork as you do with a 'man on the street'. And you have to make sure the cranks don't become regulars like your average big-city sports station Another thing that annoys me about social stuff on TV is that they feel like they're not allowed to correct misspellings or fix grammar in postings shown on-screen, or even do a paraphrase (because that would get the 'they changed their words' crowd foamed up). I would be fine with a (sic) and basically capitalization fixes, seriously. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16010-the-perfect-social-media-newscast-does-it-exist/#findComment-187647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmaxhanson 650 Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 Two stations ago, I worked for a station that tried an all social media newscast. It failed, miserably. Really? Which one was it? And on the subject of trying to appeal to the younger and hipper crowd, just imagine if Tegna was around in the 90's. Then maybe one of it's newscasts would be something like this: Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16010-the-perfect-social-media-newscast-does-it-exist/#findComment-187649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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