fl19ga114sc105 3 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Hmm I could see Jacksonville going to 49 and pushing Buffalo to 50. Orlando will rocket past Denver to 18, which if that happens Orlando did that feat with only 9 counties in its DMA while Denver needed half of Colorado, and parts of Wyoming and Nebraska to pull that off. Las Vegas is growing like a tumbleweed it will go up. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-16561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennTV1983 804 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Memphis will likely drop to 46 or 47 depending on if they lose more counties to the lower markets. As for the Nashville market, I could see them staying put at 30 if their numbers don't surpass those of the Raleigh-Durham and Hartford numbers, which I seriously doubt. I know I'm gonna end up getting infinite negative karmas for this comment, but that's just how I feel, so bring it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-16568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
artie fufkin 0 Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Las Vegas is growing like a tumbleweed it will go up. Sure it's still growing, but it's not going to add another 41,000 households to pass Hampton Roads, VA. Las Vegas dropped a couple spots a couple of years ago before beginning its run upward. Las Vegas is a lot closer in the number of households to Memphis, OKC and Greensboro than it is to Hampton Roads. In a nutshell: they're either staying at 43 or dropping. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-16582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
who?cares 254 Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Las Vegas is growing like a tumbleweed it will go up. Sure it's still growing, but it's not going to add another 41,000 households to pass Hampton Roads, VA. Las Vegas dropped a couple spots a couple of years ago before beginning its run upward. Las Vegas is a lot closer in the number of households to Memphis, OKC and Greensboro than it is to Hampton Roads. In a nutshell: they're either staying at 43 or dropping. Wow, Indy is above LV, i didn't know that. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-16584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelicanGuy 117 Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Las Vegas is growing like a tumbleweed it will go up. Sure it's still growing, but it's not going to add another 41,000 households to pass Hampton Roads, VA. Las Vegas dropped a couple spots a couple of years ago before beginning its run upward. Las Vegas is a lot closer in the number of households to Memphis, OKC and Greensboro than it is to Hampton Roads. In a nutshell: they're either staying at 43 or dropping. Wow, Indy is above LV, i didn't know that. Outside Clark County, there is pretty much very few people in the rest of the counties in LV's DMA. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-16587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
artie fufkin 0 Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Las Vegas is growing like a tumbleweed it will go up. Sure it's still growing, but it's not going to add another 41,000 households to pass Hampton Roads, VA. Las Vegas dropped a couple spots a couple of years ago before beginning its run upward. Las Vegas is a lot closer in the number of households to Memphis, OKC and Greensboro than it is to Hampton Roads. In a nutshell: they're either staying at 43 or dropping. Wow, Indy is above LV, i didn't know that. Outside Clark County, there is pretty much very few people in the rest of the counties in LV's DMA. The Las Vegas DMA is Clark, Lincoln and Nye Counties. Lincoln and Nye have about 15,000 households combined. Most of those households are in the town of Pahrump in Nye County. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-16598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1519 Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 But then again, according to Nielsen, there are several counties in Wyoming and Nebraska that are much much closer to Lincoln, NE, Cheyenne or Casper-Riverton, WY or Rapid City, SD that are considered part of the Denver DMA so go figure. : Wait... You can actually drive north from Denver, pass from the Denver DMA into the Casper-Riverton one and then go back into the Denver DMA without changing direction? Man.... I thought congressional districts were drawn weird! Anyone want to take a crack at explaining this phenomenon to us clueless laypeople? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-16812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
artie fufkin 0 Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 But then again, according to Nielsen, there are several counties in Wyoming and Nebraska that are much much closer to Lincoln, NE, Cheyenne or Casper-Riverton, WY or Rapid City, SD that are considered part of the Denver DMA so go figure. : Wait... You can actually drive north from Denver, pass from the Denver DMA into the Casper-Riverton one and then go back into the Denver DMA without changing direction? Man.... I thought congressional districts were drawn weird! Anyone want to take a crack at explaining this phenomenon to us clueless laypeople? Wyoming is a strange bird for TV. The DMA lines were drawn long before many of the stations in Wyoming signed on the air. Nearly 70% of the population is assigned to a DMA outside of Wyoming. Some examples: Laramie, the 3rd largest city in the state and the home of the University of Wyoming, is a part of the Denver DMA even though it is 45 miles west of Cheyenne. Sheridan, the 4th largest city is 150 miles north of Casper and 130 miles south of Billings, MT. However, the city is part of the Rapid City, SD DMA, a city 245 miles away. Why? For many years, the only TV station in Sheridan was KSGW, a satellite of KOTA in Rapid City. KSWY, a satellite of KCWY in Casper did not sign on until 2003. A couple of years ago, the small town of Wright, WY was leveled by a major tornado. Even though the town is 90 miles north of Casper, it is part of the Denver DMA. No Denver station issued warnings. Why does Denver have a significant chunk of Wyoming? It's because the Denver stations have been on satellite for years. Cable companies serving the small towns of Wyoming could pull down clean network signals instead of relying on old multi-hop microwave links from stations in Wyoming. KTWO and KCWY both have their signals on satellite in order to get cable companies to take it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-16852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain 17 Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Miami-Ft. Lauderdale will probably stay or drop from the #16 position, That is because so many people are moving away.. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-16854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1519 Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 I think that map is inaccurate, as it is the Denver DMA for the TRUCKADS people, not Nielsen. Outside of that, the maps are fairly accurate. What's Truckads? Wyoming is a strange bird for TV. The DMA lines were drawn long before many of the stations in Wyoming signed on the air. Nearly 70% of the population is assigned to a DMA outside of Wyoming. New Hampshire's in a somewhat similiar situation. The southern half of the state is a sub-market of the Boston DMA, while the northern half is split between Vermont (Burlington, I think) and Portland, ME. Kinda makes me wonder where Boston would rank if southern NH wasn't included in it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-16914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmediaguy 123 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 The 07-08 rankings were announced late this afternoon: http://www.nielsenmedia.com/nc/nmr_static/docs/2007-2008_DMA_Ranks.xls Highlights * Dallas-Fort Worth moved up 1 to 5, surpassing San Francisco * Atlanta moved up 1 to 8, surpassing Washington, D.C. * Phoenix moved up 1 to 12, surpassing Tampa-St. Petersburg * Charlotte moved up 1 to 25, surpassing Indianapolis * Harlingen-Weslaco, Texas, moved up 3 to 88 * Boise, Idaho, moved up 5 to 113 * Palm Springs, Calif., moved up 5 to 144 * Anchorage, Alaska, moved up 4 to 150 * Harrisonburg, Va., moved up 3 to 178 * Lima, Ohio, moved up 11 to 185 Lowlights * Memphis moved down 3 to 47 * Dayton, Ohio, moved down 4 to 62 * Youngstown, Ohio, moved down 3 to 106 * Traverse City-Cadillac, Mich., moved down 3 to 116 * Wichita Falls, Texas-Lawton, Okla., moved down 3 to 149 * Bluefield-Beckley-OakHill, W.Va., moved down 5 to 155 * Wheeling, W.Va.,-Steubenville, Ohio, moved down 4 to 159 * Hattiesburg-Laurel, Miss., moved down 3 to 168 More information from TV Newsday: http://tvnewsday.com/articles/2007/08/23/daily.9/ Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-17991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaskanews 113 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Des Moines moved up 2 to #71 the biggest jump of the year was Lima, OH. up 11 from 196 to 185 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-17994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
semistatic 0 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 The 07-08 rankings were announced late this afternoon: http://www.nielsenmedia.com/nc/nmr_static/docs/2007-2008_DMA_Ranks.xls Highlights * Dallas-Fort Worth moved up 1 to 5, surpassing San Francisco Nooooooooo! I liked my DMA right where it was B) Des Moines moved up 2 to #71 the biggest jump of the year was Lima, OH. up 11 from 196 to 185 That's really odd, because they made the drop from 185 to 196 last year. I wonder if there was some kind of anomaly with the data? Guess it's time to update the site with the new data.... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-17997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
susquvalleywgal 517 Posted August 23, 2007 Author Share Posted August 23, 2007 Can someone just post a list of it without me downloading a spreadsheet or applying for a website? -- Matt Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-18004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmediaguy 123 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Can someone just post a list of it without me downloading a spreadsheet or applying for a website? -- Matt I apologize. I forgot TV Newsday needed a login. (It's free, though). 1 New York 2 Los Angeles 3 Chicago 4 Philadelphia 5 Dallas-Ft. Worth 6 San Francisco-Oak-San Jose 7 Boston (Manchester) 8 Atlanta 9 Washington, DC (Hagrstwn) 10 Houston 11 Detroit 12 Phoenix (Prescott) 13 Tampa-St. Pete (Sarasota) 14 Seattle-Tacoma 15 Minneapolis-St. Paul 16 Miami-Ft. Lauderdale 17 Cleveland-Akron (Canton) 18 Denver 19 Orlando-Daytona Bch-Melbrn 20 Sacramnto-Stkton-Modesto 21 St. Louis 22 Pittsburgh 23 Portland, OR 24 Baltimore 25 Charlotte 26 Indianapolis 27 San Diego 28 Raleigh-Durham (Fayetvlle) 29 Hartford & New Haven 30 Nashville 31 Kansas City 32 Columbus, OH 33 Cincinnati 34 Milwaukee 35 Salt Lake City 36 Greenvll-Spart-Ashevll-And 37 San Antonio 38 West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce 39 Grand Rapids-Kalmzoo-B.Crk 40 Birmingham (Ann, Tusc) 41 Harrisburg-Lncstr-Leb-York 42 Norfolk-Portsmth-Newpt Nws 43 Las Vegas 44 Albuquerque-Santa Fe 45 Oklahoma City 46 Greensboro-H.Point-W.Salem 47 Memphis 48 Louisville 49 Jacksonville 50 Buffalo 51 Austin 52 Providence-New Bedford 53 New Orleans 54 Wilkes Barre-Scranton 55 Fresno-Visalia 56 Albany-Schenectady-Troy 57 Little Rock-Pine Bluff 58 Knoxville 59 Richmond-Petersburg 60 Tulsa 61 Mobile-Pensacola (Ft Walt) 62 Dayton 63 Ft. Myers-Naples 64 Lexington 65 Charleston-Huntington 66 Flint-Saginaw-Bay City 67 Roanoke-Lynchburg 68 Tucson (Sierra Vista) 69 Wichita-Hutchinson Plus 70 Green Bay-Appleton 71 Des Moines-Ames 72 Toledo 73 Honolulu 74 Springfield, MO 75 Omaha 76 Portland-Auburn 77 Spokane 78 Rochester, NY 79 Paducah-Cape Girard-Harsbg 80 Syracuse 81 Columbia, SC 82 Shreveport 83 Huntsville-Decatur (Flor) 84 Champaign&Sprngfld-Decatur 85 Madison 86 Chattanooga 87 Cedar Rapids-Wtrlo-IWC&Dub 88 Harlingen-Wslco-Brnsvl-McA 89 South Bend-Elkhart 90 Jackson, MS 91 Tri-Cities, TN-VA 92 Burlington-Plattsburgh 93 Colorado Springs-Pueblo 94 Baton Rouge 95 Waco-Temple-Bryan 96 Davenport-R.Island-Moline 97 Savannah 98 El Paso (Las Cruces) 99 Johnstown-Altoona-St Colge 100 Charleston, SC 101 Evansville 102 Ft. Smith-Fay-Sprngdl-Rgrs 103 Myrtle Beach-Florence 104 Lincoln & Hastings-Krny 105 Greenville-N.Bern-Washngtn 106 Youngstown 107 Ft. Wayne 108 Tallahassee-Thomasville 109 Springfield-Holyoke 110 Reno 111 Tyler-Longview(Lfkn&Ncgd) 112 Lansing 113 Boise 114 Sioux Falls(Mitchell) 115 Augusta 116 Traverse City-Cadillac 117 Peoria-Bloomington 118 Montgomery-Selma 119 Fargo-Valley City 120 Eugene 121 Macon 122 SantaBarbra-SanMar-SanLuOb 123 Lafayette, LA 124 Monterey-Salinas 125 Bakersfield 126 Yakima-Pasco-Rchlnd-Knnwck 127 La Crosse-Eau Claire 128 Columbus, GA (Opelika, AL) 129 Corpus Christi 130 Chico-Redding 131 Amarillo 132 Rockford 133 Columbus-Tupelo-West Point 134 Wausau-Rhinelander 135 Wilmington 136 Monroe-El Dorado 137 Columbia-Jefferson City 138 Duluth-Superior 139 Topeka 140 Medford-Klamath Falls 141 Beaumont-Port Arthur 142 Erie 143 Sioux City 144 Palm Springs 145 Joplin-Pittsburg 146 Albany, GA 147 Salisbury 148 Lubbock 149 Wichita Falls & Lawton 150 Anchorage 151 Terre Haute 152 Bangor 153 Rochestr-Mason City-Austin 154 Panama City 155 Bluefield-Beckley-Oak Hill 156 Binghamton 157 Odessa-Midland 158 Minot-Bismarck-Dickinson 159 Wheeling-Steubenville 160 Biloxi-Gulfport 161 Sherman-Ada 162 Gainesville 163 Idaho Falls-Pocatello 164 Abilene-Sweetwater 165 Yuma-El Centro 166 Clarksburg-Weston 167 Missoula 168 Hattiesburg-Laurel 169 Utica 170 Billings 171 Quincy-Hannibal-Keokuk 172 Dothan 173 Elmira (Corning) 174 Jackson, TN 175 Rapid City 176 Lake Charles 177 Watertown 178 Harrisonburg 179 Marquette 180 Alexandria, LA 181 Charlottesville 182 Jonesboro 183 Bowling Green 184 Greenwood-Greenville 185 Lima 186 Meridian 187 Grand Junction-Montrose 188 Laredo 189 Lafayette, IN 190 Parkersburg 191 Great Falls 192 Bend, OR 193 Twin Falls 194 Butte-Bozeman 195 Eureka 196 Cheyenne-Scottsbluff 197 San Angelo 198 Casper-Riverton 199 Mankato 199 Ottumwa-Kirksville 201 St. Joseph 202 Zanesville 203 Fairbanks 204 Victoria 205 Presque Isle 206 Helena 207 Juneau 208 Alpena 209 North Platte 210 Glendive Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-18006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
susquvalleywgal 517 Posted August 23, 2007 Author Share Posted August 23, 2007 Much thanks! Karma to you. -- Matt Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-18007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungstownTV 0 Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 I'm not surprised Youngstown dropped that far. That's exactly why the new owners of WYTV are shutting their newscasts down. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-18035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewzPimpin 1 Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 I predict Memphis will move up to 43 and that OKC will overtake Albuquerque/Santa Fe. ... I believe Memphis will either stay at 44 or actually drop down to 45. I see OKC taking Memphis' 44 spot, Memphis down to 45 and Albuquerque/Santa Fe holding 46 all by themselves. Memphis dropped from 44 to 47. OKC stayed at 46; it was Albuquerque/Santa Fe that actually took Memphis' spot at 44. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-18072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy 0 Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 The Phoenix market has been steadily moving up over the past 2 years and we were only slightly behind Tampa in terms over population as of last year, so I wouldn't be too surprised if Phoenix moved up to claim the number 12 spot. Called it. Phoenix moved up to 12. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-18086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
allstar2003 0 Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 I'm think that Columbus,OH will be at #35. I really can't see how we can rise higher, but I can see how we can drop a couple of spots. Show what I Know about my own market. : Columbus,OH stay at #32 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-18089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
l14dap 1 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 I may be the only one here who thinks that the Phoenix DMA is too big. I don't think it does a good enough job covering the entire market... stations in other markets do a better job of covering territory Phoenix fails to cover. For example, they can give the eastern half of Riverside County, CA to Palm Springs or perhaps Yuma/El Centro. Graham and Greenlee Counties can go to Tucson and the Phoenix market will still be in decent shape. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1738-200708-dma-predictions/page/2/#findComment-18376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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