civic110 18 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 WCBS has their ads indicating "news as it happens". Kristine Johnson even said during a cut-in on Judge Judy to get your news as it happens, live at five. I can't believe they even stole the name. WNYW explains, "It's 5pm, do you know where your newscast is?" They also have three promotional ads, one of which portrays a murder investigation and explains that the 5:00 news has been murdered, but not on FOX5! You can watch them on their website: http://www.myfoxny.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=4313818&version=7&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1 WABC doesn't necessarily attack WNBC for not having a 5pm newscast but they do highlight their 5pm broadcast with breaking news, Lee's weather, etc. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabceyewitness 818 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 The promos are a slightly funny, mostly classless ... what we usually expect from FOX. Too bad their "newscasts" consist mainly of "American Idol" and headlines from "Page Six". When they begin to do real news again, then maybe their 5 p.m. ratings will begin to register. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/#findComment-19377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYNews 54 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Those commercials are as pathetic as they can be. Just like their newscasts and news team. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/#findComment-19379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Houdini 0 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Maybe. But NBC folded their tent. That must more pathetic. : Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/#findComment-19385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
username23 1 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Maybe. But NBC folded their tent. That must more pathetic. : To be correct though WNBC was following orders, it's not like it was their idea. This is likely to be one of the few markets where other stations put out promos blasting them for stopping a 5pm newscast. I believe in Miami the ABC affiliate already stopped the 5pm. I actually enjoyed the WNYW promos, typical gloves off promo, again it's a business. I agree with wabceyewitness though, once NYW decides to do more real news and more "breaking news" the ratings will start to come in. I found it funny that the 4th place 5pm newscast was the first to really sling the mud, but it is a FOX station, and must uphold a reputation. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/#findComment-19389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Houdini 0 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Maybe the local NBC news is run like the cable end of NBC. Tough to stay in business in 4th place in a 3 way race. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/#findComment-19394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbs2idiots 24 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 All I have to say it was funny but cheap. Too bad all those promos not helping the station. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/#findComment-19400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHawk447 17 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Fox 5's first ad, playing off the station's own staple of a late-news intro, was the best of that lot; that, however, is not saying much. As far as actual 5p 'casts, WNYW still has a serious ways to go against WABC and WCBS. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/#findComment-19478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
showdown 0 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I totally agree! Fox 5 is a total joke when it comes to news. That fat boy over their Scott Matthews (ND) has no clue how to do news, and his boss, Lou Leone (GM) has the personality of a pea! Together they're Mutt and Jeff and continue to bury Fox 5 and put their newscasts in the toilet. Fox 5 news, a total joke. NBC is now starting their downward spiral, which is sad because they used to be a powerhouse news station. As it is, ABC 7 is still number 1 with now CBS following in 2nd place. CBS could actually challenge ABC now that NBC is falling, but they would have to spend a ton of money for overtime and starting doing a better job of covering local news. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/#findComment-19505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Houdini 0 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 CBS is already spending a ton of money on Kitty Couric that is proving to be a big mistake. Maybe the money is not filtering down with that bis siphon to top. The commercials are funny. It's nice to see a vulture picking of their own for a change. Either way, FOX is making money. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/#findComment-19517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck95 0 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Those promos have Roger Ailes written all over them. He just loves to publicly go after the competition. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/#findComment-19603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
civic110 18 Posted September 14, 2007 Author Share Posted September 14, 2007 How about WCBS stealing the "live at five" moniker? Everyday when they do their promos during Judge Judy at 4...one of them always says the new phrase (I wonder who instituted that): Join us as news happens...live at five. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/#findComment-19614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbs2idiots 24 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 WCBS is a scum bag stealing the name Live at Five. Every time I hear Kristine Johnson doing thae tease I feel like going though the TV and smack her. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/#findComment-19622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYNews 54 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 How about WCBS stealing the "live at five" moniker? Everyday when they do their promos during Judge Judy at 4...one of them always says the new phrase (I wonder who instituted that): Join us as news happens...live at five. Yea, i see your point. I just saw one of their previews for the news at 5. They just took it, how unoriginal, might i add. But then again, it's not like WNBC owns the phrase Live at 5. WCBS is a scum bag stealing the name Live at Five. Every time I hear Kristine Johnson doing thae tease I feel like going though the TV and smack her. lol, i kinda feel that way too Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/#findComment-19623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amra 171 Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 How about WCBS stealing the "live at five" moniker? Everyday when they do their promos during Judge Judy at 4...one of them always says the new phrase (I wonder who instituted that): Join us as news happens...live at five. Yea, i see your point. I just saw one of their previews for the news at 5. They just took it, how unoriginal, might i add. But then again, it's not like WNBC owns the phrase Live at 5. WCBS is a scum bag stealing the name Live at Five. Every time I hear Kristine Johnson doing thae tease I feel like going though the TV and smack her. lol, i kinda feel that way too I bet she says, as the new, i mean news, happens Die at 5, sorry, Live at 5 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/#findComment-19633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
civic110 18 Posted September 15, 2007 Author Share Posted September 15, 2007 Yea, there really does seem to be lacking at 5pm. More news breaks around 5pm or late afternoon than does 7pm. I just cannot bring myself to watch entertainment news programs when the other networks have breaking news of something here or something there. It might not be the most important or earth shattering of breaking news, but in New York there's always something. At 5pm, WNBC is really missing out on that. I see that WNBC doesn't have ownership of "live at five", but be original. Live@5 is WNBC's thing and it always has been, despite the fact they've abandoned it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/#findComment-19635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHawk447 17 Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 A big question here is how the reshaped 5p landscape (7, 2, 5) will play out at the sweeps period two months from now. What's your take on that, especially between the 5p newscasts on 5 and 2? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/#findComment-19639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYNews 54 Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 WCBS will do better than WNYW. WNYW has had it 5pm newscast for years and it has yet to see any increase in ratings, WCBS on the other hand has Judge Judy to help. (I must add though that Merv Griffin's Crosswords is a pretty addictive show). I think WCBS' ratings will bump up to a range of 3.3-5/7 and WNYW 1.6-8/4. I also think WCBS's 6pm ratings will increase. Chuck and Sue was there to keep up the ratings. But now, I feel Rosenfield/Tyler makes a stronger team than Baquero/Ushery (I think this team needs time to grow.) Or, WABC takes all the viewers and continues to be the leader. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/#findComment-19641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenHD 0 Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 WABC will be number one at 5! Who knows what more changes we could excpect on Channel 6. WABC will probably beat WNBC at 6 because of the anchor set up and they don't really have a good lead in. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/#findComment-19680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbs2idiots 24 Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 WABC will be number one at 5! Who knows what more changes we could excpect on Channel 6. WABC will probably beat WNBC at 6 because of the anchor set up and they don't really have a good lead in. WABC have been number 1 for quite sometime now on all of their newscasts. WCBS might end up beating WNBC at 6pm. Yes you are right WNBC lead in is stink these days which is contributing to their ratings decline. The only weekday show that WNBC is capitalizing on is the Today Show that is why they extend it to an extra hour. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/2004-competition-for-news-5/#findComment-19683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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