civic110 18 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6531792.html?q=wnbc According to B&C, Ellen moves to 4pm. Didn't WNBC already try this? They got killed by Judge Judy and Oprah then and it'll repeat itself...the definition of stupidity. WCBS' Judge Judy ratings are through the roof and Oprah is Oprah. They move around the newscasts, they move around the anchors, and the shows again. They're taking a page from WCBS' former book. Any thoughts? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/3113-wnbc-shooting-themselves-again/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
caliwxdude 254 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 KNTV moved Ellen DeGeneres out of the 4:00pm time slot back in September 2007 when "Merv Griffin's Crosswords" premiered. They moved her back to 4:00 in November after "Crosswords" failed to successfully compete with Oprah. Putting a boring, dumb game show like "Crosswords" against the Oprah juggernaut is just a bad idea. Ellen is probably the only decent way to counterprogram Oprah besides a newscast. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/3113-wnbc-shooting-themselves-again/#findComment-27849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I thought they had Ellen at 4pm before the news came on prior to this past September. I know Crosswords was later only aired once instead of twice on the 3pm hour. I guess no one in NY likes Crosswords. Still it's Channel 4's lost. Hopefully they'll get some viewers on down the line. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/3113-wnbc-shooting-themselves-again/#findComment-27850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbs2idiots 24 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 I guess Ellen does better at 4pm than crosswords, extra and all the other foolishness even though they are still getting beat by Oprah and Judge Judy. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/3113-wnbc-shooting-themselves-again/#findComment-27851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
njlady 1 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 The article said it was a temporary move because crosswords is doing so badly. Ellen will go back to 11 in the fall. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/3113-wnbc-shooting-themselves-again/#findComment-27874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbad 1 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Place needs a breath of fresh air. Time for forman to go Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/3113-wnbc-shooting-themselves-again/#findComment-27876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amra 171 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 It isn't Forman's decision but Comeford's decision as GM. And I'd rather have Forman leading WNBC's News Department with Hard News rather than others with Fluffy ideas for news. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/3113-wnbc-shooting-themselves-again/#findComment-27888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alewis116 0 Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Ellen isn't doing well at 11 and probably won't do well at 3 (she is doing well, but not winning the hour...) In the fall they should do this: 7:00: Today 10:00: Today: 4th Hour 11:00: In The Loop with iVillage 12:00: WNBC Noon News (NEW!) 12:30: Extra 1:00: Martha 2:00: Days of Our Lives 3:00: Judge Joe Brown 4:00: Ellen 5:00: Live at 5 6:00: News Channel 4 at 6 6:30: NBC Nightly News 7:00: NY Nightly News 7:30: Access Hollywood Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/3113-wnbc-shooting-themselves-again/#findComment-27913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYNews 54 Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Ellen isn't doing well at 11 and probably won't do well at 3 (she is doing well, but not winning the hour...) In the fall they should do this: 7:00: Today 10:00: Today: 4th Hour 11:00: In The Loop with iVillage 12:00: WNBC Noon News (NEW!) 12:30: Extra 1:00: Martha 2:00: Days of Our Lives 3:00: Judge Joe Brown 4:00: Ellen 5:00: Live at 5 6:00: News Channel 4 at 6 6:30: NBC Nightly News 7:00: NY Nightly News 7:30: Access Hollywood Well as the article said, a new show will replace Ellen at 4pm in the fall. Ellen is currently just a temporary fix. I don't think there's a need for a noon news, nor do they have the budget to have one at the current time. I do agree with having a full hour of news at 5pm. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/3113-wnbc-shooting-themselves-again/#findComment-27924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmediaguy 123 Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Ellen isn't doing well at 11 and probably won't do well at 3 (she is doing well, but not winning the hour...) In the fall they should do this: I believe "In the Loop" will not be on the schedule come fall. "The Bonnie Hunt Show" launches on WNBC in September. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/3113-wnbc-shooting-themselves-again/#findComment-27931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmediaguy 123 Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 I believe "In the Loop" will not be on the schedule come fall. "The Bonnie Hunt Show" launches on WNBC in September. "In the Loop" has been cancelled. Programs will air through late March. (http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/02/nbc_station_group_cancels_in_t.php) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/3113-wnbc-shooting-themselves-again/#findComment-27955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYNews 54 Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Isn't it sad in a way that WNBC, in market #1, has less news then some stations in markets < 100 ? They obviously aren't much of a "NewsChannel"..... Just because they don't have a noon newscast? Some people seem to think that just b/c they don't air a full hour of news at 5, that it's less news, but it evens out with the 7pm broadcast of NY Nightly News. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/3113-wnbc-shooting-themselves-again/#findComment-27973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alewis116 0 Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 I think a noon news would be good for WNBC, but it's not needed, now that I know about In The Loop, I would do Ellen at 11, Bonnie Hunt at 12, and Martha at 1...that is a good flow. It's super funny, to kinda funny and home-maker, to home-maker. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/3113-wnbc-shooting-themselves-again/#findComment-27974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amra 171 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 I think a noon news would be good for WNBC, but it's not needed, now that I know about In The Loop, I would do Ellen at 11, Bonnie Hunt at 12, and Martha at 1...that is a good flow. It's super funny, to kinda funny and home-maker, to home-maker. WNBC was there and done that didn't lived up so the NewsChannel4 at Noon was axed. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/3113-wnbc-shooting-themselves-again/#findComment-27983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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