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I don't think that response was directed at you. However, I do take your suggestion. Whether I follow that or not, it's my choice. But I do take your suggestion. But like I stated, what I stated above, I've meant every word that I said, even if you think it does sounds repetitive and/or rediculous, and I make no apologies. It is what it is. __________________________________________________ Going back on topic at hand which was the WLS's storm coverage, I did see the WCL-pre-empted 11am newscast today. Linda & Hosea anchoring with Tracy & Mike tag-teaming. The Governor had a long press conference that went past a couple of minutes past 12pm. Last night's 10pm news ended at 11:23pm last night, as what I expected. Nice to see Alan at the Big Board last night too, going over viewer photos after that deadly storm.
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When you look at the application, you read the Asset Purchase Agreement in those apps, and its on the section, Purchase Price. Now some of the time when new M&As is announced, they won't state the purchase price immediately, until that full paperwork is posted. Now I didn't see that KOTA paperwork last night, (usually new apps are shown minutes after Midnight ET M-F). So I just happened to see it a couple of hours ago. It's rare they post new apps at midday, instead of everything that night. It doesn't always happen that way.
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Here's KOTA's Assignment Of License app to Schurz through it's existing subsidiary New Rushmore Radio, Inc., the same licensee as its radio properties. Schurz is paying the Duhamels $10M.
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I never said my opinion was fact or made it as fact. I never said that. And I never said that it was my only opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Like I said, I don't judge anyone. But since you said what you said, that's how you feel about it, that's your opinion, and your opinion only. Oh well. It is what it is. And what I said, it is what it is. You call it as you see it, and I call it as I see it. I call a spade a spade. No matter how you splice it or if its been twisted around, a spade is a spade. So YOU take THAT for what it's worth, and you can send that straight to the cleaners. Some folks just don't get it. "....the fact is, that it was best for the station to update the music." You don't know what's best for the station. What kind of shit is that? How dare you to say that shit to me. But that's your opinion. But where's the fact that support what you said? There's is none! WHY??? Because that's his opinion!!!! Opinion is not FACT!!! How dare you say that shit to me?! And you obviously don't know what's best for the station. I can't believe this shit!!! :angry: ______________________________________________________ And what you just said just now, I don't protest that. WLS has to be more competitive because the other channels being more competitive. I'm saying that the theme song should not have changed. That is it. I honor your point and I don't protest. That's anything in life, not just the media business. WLS ratings have skipped a bit, but they still on top. There was no reason to eliminate history. I mention WPVI to drive my point. Yes WPVI & WLS are two different stations, with different contents. I'm not going to protest that. And yes, no station will be on top forever. Otherwise, Channel 2 in Chicago would've stayed #1 to this day. So I agree with you with that terminology you pointed out. Even though my philosophy haven't and will never changed, see look, there's something we can agree on. Thank the Lord for that. _________________________________________________________ All the meteorologist except for Tracy. Wow! And they just got finished with the Bears game not too long ago, and it ended in OT. The coverage ended a bit after 7:20pm. I hope they do an extention of the 10pm news past 11pm tonight. Talk about Wall-To-Wall coverage from 11am this morning. And this is the second time this year that they've went this many hours of weather coverage. Back in April, they pre-empted the entire morning schedule, because of all that heavy rain and flooding. They were on from 4:30am till the end of the 11am show. And those people that complain about interrupting a TV show that can easily be repeated, need to be shut their asses up. That was a deadly tornado, and they complain about some show that can easily be repeated, or can be rewatched via online streams. Back in May, we'd talked about folks complaining about severe weather alerts that interrupt their "precious" programming, while that vital information like a severe weather alert can save their lives. They obviously don't care about their own livelihoods. I don't like that one bit. Things can get repeated. A show can get repeated. You can't repeat a life. Tell that to the families of the five people who lost their lives today in this tornado.
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I never said anyone's opinion was wrong. I don't have to judge anyone, and I don't have to be the only viewer. And you don't know what's best for the station. And where are your facts that states that? HUH!! You don't know what's best for the station. You can't tell me what's best for the station. How dare you say that shit to me? You're just as clueless as Miles and Dumbo. Outsiders who don't know shit. And that's just sad. You don't make any sense. Where are your goons with the info and studies that proved your point? You can't prove fact, without it being proven. Now where it is? Huh!! Yoo-Hoo!! You will never prove that to me. How dare you say that!!! :angry: _____________________________________________ Anyway. Special Report continues and now Stacey & Ben has been relieved by Karen & Ravi on the 3pm hour. And Jerry showed up about 15 minutes ago. Jerry & Mike is now tag-teaming.
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As of 1:42pm, the special report is still rolling. Stacey & Ben is still there THIS LATE! (they were on at 5am this morning), and Troy & Phil is still tag-teaming. Phil standing at the big plasma at the Weather Center, while Troy is standing at the Chroma key. I know Ravi & Karen should be showing up before long. The Bears game started on time, then it stop at 4:51 left in the first quarter. Still on a rain delay now. As of 2pm, looks like Troy left and Mike Caplan showed up.
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If It Ain't Broke...... ___________________________ I'm watching 7 now (as of 11:35am/CST), and they're having a Special Weather Report. Both Phil & Troy are tag-teaming. And on top of that, there's a Bears game at Soldier Field too. I wouldn't be shocked if they delay a game for at least an hour, before the rain is out. It looks like they're going to be on for a while.
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Why would Rick Williams would be on the weekends, and he's like the top contender for Jim Gardner's spot once he leaves?
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Wait, when was that? I don't think I remember a time when they said that.
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Well, you kinda asked me not to. But I'll make a post anyway. I'm not mad at you. And please don't regret it, because I probably think you need to let that out. And I commend you for it. And you're right. I don't have to repeat my stance again because I've said what I had to say, and I meant every word. So I'm going to take that for what it's worth. And I commend your statement. __________________________________ But, Yes. We can agree to disagree on that. And I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I honor everyone's different views and such. But that part that you said, that I would make a post instantaneously, like my opinions count and the others don't, and that's never the intent. But when it comes to someone saying "Get Over It, Let's Move On" and blah, blah, blah, that's almost like a defense of what my main thing I was talking about all along. Folks are going to take offense for what I said, and that's all fine and dandy. But when someone tells me to "Get Over It, Move On", I got to suck it up and be mute about it and not say a word, Hell No. If that response was directly at me, and if it feels it needs to be replied, EVEN IF it didn't need for a reply in the first place, If I feel that it needs to be, and if I feel strong about it, as well, then It IS what It IS. I'm going to say something about it. I'm not going to be mute and not say anything. I know you were trying to make a point, and of course defend that Dumbo, but I actually did find the "bastard" part somewhat amusing, So I take no offense to that. But my stance on them have not changed, and as long as those assholes are where they at right now, it will not ever change. They are what they are, as I call it as I see it. I call a spade a spade. And I don't make any apologies for what I call them. They deserve to be called what they need to be called. If I see things that I don't like, I going to call it as it is. And I'm not going to be mute about it. And for folks that said that I need that psycho-whatever it is. It's going in one ear and come out the other. If it happen in Philly, I think the millions would probably need that. And you're right, I'm not going to let it go. My stance on the music is not going to change because that's is what I believe in. You're absolutely 100% right and exact. And I'm not going to stop preaching about that. But like I said, I said what I said that's that. And that's that.
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You can say everything needs an update. But you don't realize there a process in all of this, and these fools obviously didn't do their homework. You just can't yank tradition out the window. And you can't just put any update because you want to see an update on there. There's a process. But since they did so, it is what it is. You're right, it's not going to change shit. Those bastards aren't going to bring back the old cues. Like I said, they're going to do what they're going to do, whether I like it, or you like it, or anybody likes it or not. It's not going to stop me for stating how I'm pissed about Dumbo Idler and Clueless Miles for what they've done. If they've done their homework, it wouldn't have been like this. I mention about the jingles from ads of other firms, just as the same of the station's sonic brand only because the viewers are familiar with the same, and for some form or fashion certain themes have been slightly been tweak, but the main body of the element stays the same. But you obviously don't understand either. One more time, My philosophy haven't change. And I'm not going to backtrack what I said about Dumbo Idler and Clueless Miles. Don't fix shit that ain't broken. Change ain't always good. In this case, this was the worst move they've ever done. If certain homework would've been done, the comprehensive planning, and all the works, we would not be hearing just these couple of themes. And you're right. I'm going to let mine known. You're absolutely right. Because some don't understand how some folks love to mess with historical overtones and the longtime traditions and legacies of a station's music, or any station that has a longtime theme song. And the effects when a longtime theme song gets altered for some new shit. These bastards wanted to do it from the get go, that's why they got rid of Hebel, and hire his sidekick from WTVD to come here and do the unthinkable. If Rebecca Campbell never appointed that bastard to replace Ms. Barr, we probably wouldn't even be talking about this today. But she's a dumbass for appointing him. She really is. I think Anne Sweeney is a dumbass too for appointing Campbell. I guess both Sweeney & Campbell are both dumbasses. But some of y'all don't care about musical historical overtones and traditional legacies. Y'all just care for the longtime news theme to end so we can hear this New Generation piece of shit all the other ABC affiliates are using. All what Dumbo Idler and his sidekick wanted to do is to put something new. And what they did was bring several of these cues that are very inconsistent with each other. It's like when WEWS used Eyewitness News after the HD launch. They'd used a combonation of versions, from Series 1 to NG 2. Those fools don't understand what they're on when they get rid of a longtime news theme. In fact, I don't think they cared in the first place. You get rid of Hebel within weeks after showing up, and bring your sidekick in and do these sweeping changes, and it made me think that it was the plan all along. Many of y'all are use to theme song changes left and right on other stations, but when it comes to stations that have used theme songs for a long period of time, you can't just make those sweeping and robust changes like that, without knowing the effects of those changes. But with folks like Idler & Miles, they care less. If they planned well, we would've seen a different result. But I still think that the music shouldn't been altered. I don't care how some of y'all say its old as hell and dated as an old block of cheese. The theme would've lasted another 21 years. They could've tweak the graphics so the 1992 music would've been incorporated. There was no excuse. No reason. None. And as for you trying to say how I feel, you can't make assumptions of how I feel. Because I can't assume how you feel. And you can't tell me to "Move On" either, damnit. As I said earlier, "In Time, things will fly. In Due Time". But you know what, that's your opinion, and we can agree to disagree. But I stand by my philosophy. And I'm surely ain't going to change that. Take it for what it's worth.
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Well? Those are my replies. I don't care how big they are. I don't care how repetitive they are or if its gets re-arranged a million different ways. I don't think we have any sort of limit. And I think a good balance of my last post isn’t that repetitive. But since you said it is, or its been "reworded 30 different ways", I’ll treat is as that is just your opinion. At least I'm saying something. It's my replies. And if someone replies to me, I'm going to reply back, because we're talking about the same topic. Also, it's better to place many of the comments in one post, instead of making several different posts, just to get the user's post count up. And I do that for that REASON!!!! If WABC drops its 1999 EWN Series 3 theme, I would be just as pissed, as these fools Dumbo and his Sidekick that eliminated the 1992 theme. And if you think I’m “blowing this out of proportion” like you stated after I made my equally lengthy post after Sylvia’s departure, so be it, even though I know damn well that I’m not. It is what it is! And let’s not forget, you didn’t complain about the length of my post back then, why complain now? Other than the possible repetitiveness of it (or what you have called it), your question doesn’t make any damn sense. So again, It’s my reply. It is what it is! My Replies! So take THAT for what it's worth and you can send THAT to the cleaners. _____________________________________________________ But let's get back to the topic at hand. I'm thinking that I'm the only one that thinks that WLS should've stayed with the cues that they’ve been using. These new cues are just there because the new heads only reason to put things new to the station as they said they wanted to “refreshen up” the station. But this one spoke many volumes. OMG, at least somebody is getting the main root of what I've been saying all along. Wait, pardon my repetitiveness, but what did he say? People are comfortable with things that they’re familiar with. FAMILIARITY!!! Chicago is use to familiarity, more ways than one. And when you lose that, you got problems. Many folks are use to the things they’re already accustomed to. And they’re not use to seeing things that they’re already accustomed to, being altered like that. Look at the Empire Carpet ads, the Moo N Oink ads, and the countless other products with jingles and ads, either for TV, Radio and other business. They know their jingles have worked. Why? Because they are familiar and its in the consciousness of the viewer in Chicago. If those dumbos really done their homework, they wouldn’t even be using these cues they’re using now. Hell we wouldn’t even be hearing just these two/three themes of the NS2000+ NG. Since we have several inconsistencies of these cues, morning and evening, and I do agree that the close is just too difficult to watch, they could at least bring back the 1992 theme as a closing theme. But thanks to these imbeciles, that won’t even happen on their watch. It’s so sad that these imbeciles Dumbo and his Sidekick are tinkering, tweaking, fiddling, meddling with the historical overtones, and the traditions and legacies of the station. I wished Hebel had someone else along his side to teach about the stations musical historical overtones, so in case he would’ve retired, someone else would understand it right to the tee, and not have this catastrophic disaster we have today with Clueless Curtis and the Dumbo. I had a good feeling if Tom Hebel would’ve stayed, it might’ve been a possibility that they might come up with something that might not be similar to this disaster they got now. And since they got rid of a longtime CSD, they have to fend for themselves. I mean, I liked your suggestion of a WABC Series 3 version with NS2000+ logo And I’ll throw a suggestion out there and maybe use the same instrumentation style similar to Enforcer’s NG2, and make a package with NS2000+ They could take the same 1992 theme, and almost identical to the “T”, take that same cue and make it as brassier or upbeat similar to like the Enforcer NG2 and/or that WABC theme. But yeah, if the proper homework would’ve been done, then maybe, just maybe, things could’ve been different and the music product could possibly have a better result. It wouldn’t be blandish like this piece of shit. And we might not even have multiple musical logos as a sonic brand for one station. Most viewers are familiar with one sonic brand. And most are accustomed to the way that sonic brand is being used. If it is used in a way that it sounds very off to the viewer, they will say something about it. But with these new cues, everything was rushed. And even with all these suggestions, I’m still going to say, that none of the cues should’ve left period. And I stand by that. Those were traditional, historical and familiar to the viewer in its own right. But yes, Familiarity is key. Without it, you’ll be in big trouble.
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One more thing, and I didn't think about this either. When I stated about Tribune could use the Dreamcatcher card to get WHDF, I wouldn't be shocked if they might eye WCWG from Lockwood as well. At first, I thought Tribune proper could get WCWG by itself, but Greensboro is one of the markets have 9 full-powers (8 commercial, 1 non-com) and it still need eight-commonly owned voices. Let's not forget they're the largest group of CW affiliiates. And they would love to add This TV on WCWG, since its one of the markets where they don't have a This TV affiliate (WXII was the market's last This TV affiliate, until it switched to Me-TV). That's some homework the Trib can work out in the not-too-distant future. My only problem with KTEN is that I think Nexstar isn't too keen to all those subchannels. But it's basically a two station market. But I think Nexstar would probably make an exception. It could be really crazy and Gray try to jam that Excalibur card and monopolize that whole market. I doubt that would happen. As for Rockfleet, and knowing all those stations are underdogs, it would really fit Nexstar's footings grately. The WVII/WFVX can have their programming hubbed in Rochester. And all stations involved use an Arnold theme, so that's already a plus. But Nexstar can breathed some life into those stations. I'm just hope they don't drop the Circle 7 logo at WVII. ___________________________________________ We have two new FCC approvals tonight, on this week ending Friday Night. TVNewsCheck posted earlier tonight that the FCC has greenlighted the sale of WIYC in Troy, Alabama to Neal Ardman. Ardman bought WIYC from Josie Park Broadcasting for $650K. Also, the FCC also greenlighted the sale of KTLM in Rio Grande City, TX to NBC. NBC is buying this Telemundo affiliate from Larry Patrick's Sunbelt Multimedia for $8.5M. ___________________________________________ And Finally, I know I'm not suppose to post this on this thread, but since it's been talked about many times, I think it's worth a mention. There's been talk that The Simpsons repeats would be aired in cable syndication. Tonight, the Daily Variety stated that Fox announced that their cable network, FXX will carry the repeats. The terms of the deal is around $750M. Along with the 730+ episodes being shown on the cable channel, segments of the program will also be stream through Video-on-demand websites and its soon-to-be released FXNow mobile app. B&C states that the repeats will begin airing in August of next year.
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So Gray is starting to use this new Excalibur card extensively. The state of Wisconsin could be Gray's next target to use the Excalibur card. I wouldn't be shocked if they try to knock on Nexstar's door an try to buy WLAX/WEUX from them, should Nexstar is unable to try a duo partner, like if Murphy don't want to sell WKBT. I wouldn't even be shock if they use the Excalibur card to acquire WFXS (Wausau) and WBUW (Madison). It would be extremely gutsy if they use the Excalibur card in Bowling Green, where Max may be ready to unload WNKY. I don't think Gray want to take that gutsy chance. Let's not forget that Lockwood bought three stations within this past year, including making a duopoly in Knoxville (WBXX & WKNX), WCWG in Greensboro, and WSKY in Manteo, which that should be closed any day now. If Lockwood wants to unload, I don't think they just want to unload WBXX without unloading WKNX as well. Huntsville's WHDF could also be either Dreamcatcher or Mission/Rocky Creek's meal ticket. That's if Nexstar is probably eyeing on the Calkins' WAAY, and might want to throw some rocks and call it dibs for WHDF. Tribune could also use the Dreamcatcher card to get WHDF, and place their 9pm news on their. But back to Knoxville. Why can't Gray aim a bit higher? Merge with Raycom and terminate the news agreement with WBIR, and let WVLT produce the news on WTNZ. In markets where Gray and Raycom is at, it make a boatload of sense. But so far Raycom have been very silent in this phase of the M&A craze.
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Oh NO!!! Don't say Indie-Band AHHLLLL!! SMH! :puke: But this is what these music makers are doing these days, they make music not like the music of the yesteryear. Case in point as you mentioned, Indie-Band News Theme. It would be the trendsetter of Arnold's other themes Locals Only, This Is The Place, 615's Moving Forward and In The Groove's line of music themes like Pride and Strive. All these themes have one thing in common, and it has the rock element. All it does is to bring a younger demo to the fold, but like when they do that, it almost eliminate the core demographic. I'm suppose to be in that younger demo that wouldn't mind this kind of music, but for an establishment like WLS, many viewers or LFATs (loyal friend and trues) would probably would revolt from this. It would probably be worst than a PVI-effect. What's really worst is the CSDs are not so into putting their own input into the music these days. Any new music composed by the firms are made and the stations are getting them immediately after composition, with absolutely no input. But that's the way it is these days at the stations. They want something to sound like a rock concert or something. I still think that was Idler's plan all along. If Hebel stayed, he probably wouldn't have touched any of those cues and those older cues would've stayed. Miles probably would've went with that ABC O&O theme fully, Hell he could've done even worst than that. Since he started using a customized "It's All About Early" crap earlier this year, it would've been even disasterous using an Arnold theme on WLS. That would've been crazy. WLS had every opportunity to use the new cues. They could've changed it in Summer of '98, or in April of 2001 (only the AM theme was changed), or in June of 2005 (Hothaus GFX), or April of '06 (New Set downstairs), or in January '07 (HD launch), or later that year when they first contemplating a possible musical update, which those were later rejected as well, or even in 2009, before they replace that afternoon bumper and use the evening bumper for the 4 & 5pm shows after stated using automation. They had all these opportunities to do so, but they didn't. Even when Gari did updates for them on numerous occasions, they'd rejected them every time. At that time, I use to have WABC & KABC on satellite, and I heard the themes there, I did question myself why the other stations is using the WLS NS2K melody, and WLS not using EWN and vice-versa. Then ctmajka wrote that letter to Hebel, stating his reasonings why he didn't wanted to use the themes that were used by the other O&Os, I was sold by what he explained, and I felt everything felt in place. Some of y'all would say that about 12 years too long, but I call that an eternal bliss. The new , it sounded like they composed it just days before they started using it. It's like they didn't have much of the time to even think about it. With the other cues being composed already, like their new morning theme and the NG2 bumper they used for the evenings. What happened on October 26, would probably never happen again, where a station would use the same EXACT theme song, all of those 21 years from start to finish. And to me that is sad. And you know what's even worst, all these new themes that's being made by Chris Gari, 615 & Arnold/360, many of these themes would sound even more dated in a few years. Just as the same as the '92 News Series 2000 Plus theme, and '99 WABC EWN theme, the '95 KABC EWN Theme & Bumper would've lasted even past their HD launch in 2006, hell they continue to use the series 1 cue for their Breaking News stinger, after now using NG4. And I'm still thinking WCSH will surprise me if they still use that Good News storm center cue this winter, while using the new This Is Home theme. To me, the old shit will ALWAYS be better than the new shit, anyday. It's just sad that this news music today have to sound like either some cheap sounding element or some rock concert element. But we got to get use to this shit nowadays. And as long as the younger demographic loves it, they will continue to make this filth. And I'm Gari-bias. I wouldn't mind hearing any new Gari theme in any station in any town. But hearing the News Series 2000 Plus NG on WLS, it doesn't make me change the way I feel about it. It's even sad of how it came to fruition. For an institution like WLS, they need something better than these cookie-cutter over-rushed NG cuts. But I don't think anything would've been better than the original cues. But that's your stance of the cues, but my stance of the cues are far different from yours. To me, its a waste of effort. I'm not saying throw the cues in the garbage dump. But if another station use the cues, then I wouldn't be so mad. WABC had use the rejected WLS cues for their IDs these last four years, since Gari have been marketing them. As for what I said about Idler and Miles, Well, I said what I said, and my stance haven't changed on that either. Let's not forget where they came from. Miles was the CSD of WTVD Channel 11 in Durham, North Carolina. Dumbo Idler was the President and GM at WTVD. I dunno which other word I can use other than "sidekick". He didn't bring other folks from WTVD to WLS, but I hate the fact he had to get rid of a longtime CSD to bring Miles in. He didn't fire any other prominent directors. The first weeks he step foot WLS, he got rid of Tom Hebel. In a nature of any business, whether its media, or any field of establishments, any new head comes in, they will try to bring people they're familiar with. Maybe he thought that Hebel probably wouldn't have dance to the Dumbo's music. Now I'm not sure if he was forced to resign or not, but he resigned. Hebel is now at Tampa's WFLA now. WFLA is nothing like WLS. He should've never left WLS. As for calling Idler a "bastard" and "dumbo", Well? I said, I call a spade a spade. And I make no apologies. He comes and waltz into an establishment, a rich establishment like WLS and do all these subtle changes, getting rid of 190 North, firing Sylvia, firing Hebel, stripping the RKO C&C prints (the last station ever to use them), and doing the ultimatum in eliminating the longest theme song in the station's history, and I suppose to be happy about that shit? I'm boiling pissed about the latter three. It's sad. It's sad that it now gone. But I can't be mad more than the ones who made these changes. I don't care if the song was even more dated than 21 years, or I don't care if any of you say "Nostalgia only gets so far....." or "It so old, its rusted and crusted". They meddled with traditional and historical overtones that day. And they didn't give a damn. It could've altered the graphics in a way they would've incorporated the 1992 theme there. There was no excuse not to use the old theme. It's like they did these change only for the sake of it. And that tears me apart. Those fools only wanted to see the theme song change because the predecessors never did so. And I honor them predecessors deeply. Idler & Miles. The Dumbo and his Sidekick. And I thought Ahern was this bad. Someone said on this board, one person use to say, and I'm paraphrasing, something under the lines of "Use the music, till the tape breaks", or something along those lines. You sound a lot like someone I know... "Buy the music... Buy it just like you buy your cameras and like you buy your transmitters. When you buy it, you own it and you use it until it is no good and you can throw it away." — Buddy Bostick, president-owner, KWTX (in Broadcasting magazine, 1985) (This is why KWTX beat Tuesday13 into the 90s and rode The News Image for seven years.) Well, in today's time, there's no longer tapes/reels. WLS could've continued using the old theme longer than 21 years. Hell, 25 would've been a better number. Sad that it won't happen. Someday MCTYW might see better days, I hope not in the near future or far into the future. But until then MCTYW is still around in Philly!!! Chroma Cues is still around in Baltimore!!! At least someone understands my philosophy. You missed WSOC with Bold Branding and maybe a couple of others. But you absolutely get what I'm saying. And finally, for the folks that continue to tell me to "Get Over it" and "Let's Move On". I will say this again. It's not going to change my philosophy or how I feel about what Dumbo Idler and & his sidekick Miles done for eliminating the station's longtime news theme. As long as John Idler & Curtis Miles are still at WLS-TV, I will never forgive them for eliminating the 21 year-News Series 2000 Plus theme, and stripping those RKO C&C prints. They're never good in my book. Never! Alrighty. I'm Done. Take it for what its worth.
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Wait, what? Psycho-what? Are you saying that I need a psychiatrist/psychologist of something? I don't think I need any of that. Even though new folks went in and got rid of an iconic theme tune and went with the New Generation route, the previous management rejected, and I'm saddened and pissed about it, and I even said, I still watch the station, it doesn't mean I'm going to completely lose my mind. I keep on mentioning Philly. What would've happen if PVI did it again, I wouldn't be the only one that would feel the same way. To me, the sentiment is massive. At some point I feel that same way, LOL. But I think he was a bit concern, that's probably why he'd ask that. I don't think it meant that much of a harm. But like I said, Yeah I'm pissed that it happened, but it's not warrant to not watch the station. I still love the station and such. My point is just that there's a strong staple when a news theme goes a long time, and this would be any station like WSYR, or KTVU or WCSH or KARE 11. And I was stating how I felt about it. But that doesn't mean why I'm going to stop watch the station. The new folks are going to do what they're going to do, whether I like it or not. I'm not happy that it happen, but I'm not going to lose any sleep about it. I'm not in an emotional wreck. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and that's was basically it. I said what I said, and that's that. My philosophy hasn't change, and I'm not going to change that. I would feel the same way if WPVI drops MCTYW or WJZ throws Chroma Cues in the garbage dump. And to the folks that say, "Get Over It" and shit, I have a feeling that's mostly defending with those imbecile bastards have done and what I said doesn't have any merit. "Oh you have Deeeeallll with iiiiit!!!! Oh, you have to Move On!. Get Over It!, Deal with It!!!!!!!, Right NOW!! Suck It Up!!!" SMMFH! And some might think that it may sound like an attack, but like I said, my philosophy is not going to change. And I think I have a choice to deal or not to deal, and to get over or not to get over. I have that choice, so deal with that!!!! But, In time, things will fly. In due time. But until then... It is what it is. I'm fine. I've been preaching this for a really long time. It has happened to some stations in the past. But when it hit close to home. I understand your reasoning. I was never worried about the set, graphics, content & delivery style. I'd said before that I didn't like News Series 2000 Plus when it first came out, but time went on and I grew up to embraced, and longevity rolled, and it became more than a tradition. So my philosophy is, if a station has used the theme for a long time, they should not alter it. Other stations would get updates overtime. With the exception of the 2001 morning theme, this station never used any major updates in that 21-year span. I grew to love that more than anything else. These new cues? The morning theme, I've heard many times on WABC & KABC in the early 2000s, and that's a downgrade from their customized morning theme they'd used for 12 & 1/2 years. The evening cues, too much of a downgrade. It was like it was excruciating rushed. Almost like Propulsion v.1 was rushed in 2006. And I hear more NG themes from that ABC O&O theme, which made me think that Curtis Miles original plan would've been to use the ABC O&O pack, and not use an update from NS2000+. And if I remember correctly, that cue, which of course came from that morning theme from the NG of Advantage, I believe that theme has its own closing theme. Now I'm not sure if Gari did a closing theme a the same theme for WLS, but hearing that new close is just, it's nothing there. There's no effort into the cues. Going back to what I said, all the cues just cheapens the station. Whereever happen to getting music that will last? No station CSD want to be in part of the music planning experience. None of these cues would last a year. I never like station's changing its theme song for a short period of time, but they do that though. So I don't care for them. I only care for is the ones that are very gutsy to use the same music for a long period of time. There's still WPVI & WJZ, and maybe a couple of others. And a few others. And then when you change the theme once, you'll have to change it again and again and again. It's like you come from music that have history, to music having no historical merit. That's what I really get mad about. I almost forgot to mention, WAVY 10 got rid of the original Newswire theme for an update version of it. I can't help but remember when WMAQ used it back in 92. So that alone is like an end of an era for that as well. Including that Newswire close. New versions of the themes aren't as close as the older themes are. And one more thing, when I said "I don't I'll ever get use to this..", that doesn't mean I'm not going to get use to this. It means a couple of things. One, I don't want to get use to something I don't like hearing, and two, I'm not going grow and embraced these new cues, like the older cues. If I was really a traditionalist, My morning theme of choice would've been the 1989 NS2000 cue. For the evening, it would either be the NS2000+ themes and/or that 1992 NS2000 update cue WLS used before moving to the Plus in the fall. I don't care about the other stations because all they're going to do is change just for the sake of change. Just like the late Merv Griffin use to say, "If It Ain't Broke, Fix It Anyway. Change Is Good". I never like that, because some things need to be left alone. And if they music have strong merit, I don't think it needed to change. . So In due time, things will fly, in due time. And I'm going to be fine. I thank you for your concern. ________________________________________________ I didn't see this last night. But I think he was doing a report on which building is the tallest building in North America. Of course the end result was the new One World Trade Center over the Sears Tower (That's what I said). I'm waiting for someone to say "Oh it's not the Sears Tower, it's the Willis Tower, so Deal with it!!". If those giant antennas would've been their when the building was completed and not years later, we probably would've counted. But they'd counted 1WTC's spire on top. But you're right it was a very bizarre live shot Ben did. And even greater that this is sweeps month. I don't think it was intended to be a sweeps stunt.
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I’m going to say this. And this is yet another lengthy post. I’m going to state how I feel, and I’m not looking for anyone to agree or disagree with me, and that's fine. Folks are entitled to their own opinions, and that’s always a good thing. But I’m just going to state how I feel and that’s that. Now with all of that being said, I feel that, with the great product and a very strong and rich history and heritage that WLS have, I feel that they’ve cheapen themselves when they started using the new cues, now going on two weeks now. With a station like WLS, the station had what I didn’t even realized when the 1992 theme first began, that it would end up being their best theme, and happened to end up being their longest used theme song in the station’s history. Hell, while other stations in the country have used their longtime music packages, would get updates that Gari throw at them, WLS was gutsy enough to continue using the same 1992 theme, even when New Generation themes first began in the mid-2000s, and Gari even did an update for them, which of course the former management rejected, which like I stated, I commend them for doing so. And while many NG themes were used on a daily and consistent basis in not only ABC, but CBS & NBC stations as well, I feel more embraced that WLS would continue to use the 1992 news theme this long, and not these dried up NG themes. And even though I hate the cues they use now, I don’t want them to throw the cues in the garage dump, like what they use to do with the tapes back in the day. I’m sure other ABC affiliates would love to use these cues, and some are probably already using the cues now. But like I stated WLS cheapens themselves using these cues, over the older cues. I know WLS isn’t like WPVI or WJZ. But by using their theme song this long, I really wanted to see thing same theme go longer than 20 years. I didn’t care if they had new set and graphics changes. I feel that so many stations have changed their music on a daily and consistent basis, I felt that familiarity and the longevity of the use of old theme song was just as powerful. The only ABC O&O that exemplify what I’m talking about is Fresno’s KFSN 30, which continues to use the same 1994 615 “News One” cues to this day. I know I’ve said this before, but what would’ve happened if someone would go to WPVI and get rid of MCTYW, and started using that same Gari ABC theme WPVI’s sister-station across the turnpike is using? Could we see a PVI-effect V.2. No one from Philly would love that. I’m not happy, it's been 17 days now, since the changes were implemented, that the PVI-effect didn’t happen here. I don’t care how the new theme is similar to the old theme. It just sound very cheap. It’s almost like comparing the 1972 composition of The Price Is Right Theme to the 2007 recording of it. But the 2007 recording is damn near identical to the 72. The bad thing is that the 2007 theme sound more of a festive, positive feel, the older theme had more sensitive characteristics in that theme. News Series 2000 Plus had all the characteristics bar none. But with all that said, it’s so sickening that these imbecile bastards drop a historic overtone like this. I don’t care how they said, they brought back the Eyewitness News name to “refreshen up” the station. While I don’t care about the set and graphics changes, I feel that some elements needed to be left alone. I feel that a longevity and the familiarity of a news theme means more than anything else. And to have it altered on October 26, make the cosmetic changes look awfully cheap. Like I said, the quality of the station, as solid as Channel 7, deserves to keep its longtime news theme. And as those cues drag on past 21 years, it becomes more of a staple, let alone of a tradtion. And its sad those 21 years went down the drain. History went down the drain. Yes, I called John Idler a bastard. No I called him, well both of them, him and his sidekick Curtis Miles, a “no-good dirty lowdown bastards”. Yes, I said it. So what? Yes, you can say its “a little more than harsh” and “a tad unprofessional and inappropriate” and I’ll add another word to it because I’d said this before, “childish”. But I’m not denying what I said. I’m not backtracking what I said, because I meant every word that I said, and I make no apologies. But what I said a long ago on this board, whether I call him a “Dumbo” or a “Bastard” or whether I call “Massa” David (Smith from Sincrap) the “Devil”, or if I call John Seabers (of WOAI/KABB) a “hypocritical bastard”, or if I call Armstrong Williams an “Uncle Tom” (and I know damn well he is), or if I say Sincrap or Sinturd or Sinshit or Shitclair, or Cunningrab or Stealfield, it’s not going to change the way I think of them, and it’s not going to make them change their ways. They will continue to do whatever there going to do, whether I like what they’re doing or not. Any change we hate them do, we'll go back here and bitch about it. And I also said, I wasn’t going to sugar-code shit, or lolly-gag, or milly-mally or dilly-dally, or beat around the bush, or tip-toe through the tulips. He's been changing this station left and right since he began, and I have to be mute and not say a word when something that seems not right to me, or suck it up and say “hey, good job with the new look and stripping a longtime theme song, nice work.”? HELL NO!!! HELL NO!!! He deserves to be called what he needed to be called. He needs to be taken accountable for what he does. So If I call him a bastard, I call him a bastard. And I stand firm by that. And with all that said, and I’ve said this before, It is what it is and I call it as I see it. I call a SPADE a SPADE!! And I make absolutely no apologies. And if they don’t like it, then Tough Titty. I'm tired of their shit. “OH!!! please don't call him a bastard, that's not nice. It’s not right to blame him. Oh please don't blame ol' Johnny Boy, not ol' John-John. Give him a chance, he’s trying. Don’t penalize him for trying, He’s trying his best”. Trying MY ASS!!! Oh he’s trying alright. Trying to strip the station’s charm and originality and make it more like the other O&Os. If I see something that’s absolutely not right, it comes down to who’s the captain of the ship, who’s the commander of the board, and who’s the keeper of the key? And that one who fits all of those hats is John Idler. 13 months ago, he was the one the got rid of one of the best CSDs in town for one of his boys from his old station. That was already a red flag right there. And fast forward to October 26 of this year, two weeks ago when the inevitable happen, that was when they place the final nail of the coffin and that’s when the damage was already done, just as I feared. You can’t blame it on the on-air talent, or many of the behind the scene folks. The one that made the call to get rid of the longtime music were down to just two people. And those two people are John Idler and his sidekick Curtis Miles. I don’t think he’s lazy. I think he does have a plan, and his plan is what he’s been doing these past 17 months, and that is doing what the corporate masters telling him to do. And I still think he’s Rebecca Campbell’s ass-kisser, even if any of you think he’s not. And I still think there’s other stuff up his sleeve. I don’t care anymore since the damage has already been done. And yeah I don’t think he’s trying to, what you’ve called it, “destroy” the station. But based on everything that he has done thus far since stepping foot at 190 North State, and even if y’all don’t think he’s is, I think, and I repeat, I think that his is stripping (I didn’t say “destroy”, but I guess the music cue changes, I feel that that destroy have some malice at least because the 21-year news theme was a significant historical overtone) every little element, the “charm” and the “uniqueness” that I love about the station. And I've even said this previously, and that was the time when Sylvia was fired, that anything he does beyond this point would not been good in my book. With the end of the 21-year News Series 2000 Plus theme almost two weeks ago, I couldn’t be more dead on. I strongly understand the set & graphics need to change at some point overtime, I’m not going to protest that. But why get rid of something that was a timeless gem, that’s been synonymous to the station, and that resonate with the viewers of the station, the theme song that’s been loved by all for over two decades? They must be out of their goddamn minds to do such of a thing. It is beyond pitiful. Again, I feel embraced & loved when stations are using the same theme song for a long period of time, like what KTVU did with the Michael Randall theme before 2010, or what WSOC did with the Joe Hogue theme until last year, and what WJZ is doing now with the Bruce Upchuch theme. Hell WKBW used MCTYW for 31 straight years before going to that boring-ass 615’s Right Here, Right Now theme in 2003, then resurrected MCTYW from the dead 5 years ago. Longevity means a lot when it comes to the music, and that brings it that historical overtone and make it much of a tradition to the station, because of the longevity of the cues. I strongly felt that WLS would be like those stations. News Series 2000 Plus was our MCTYW, and I felt that it should’ve never been changed. NEVER!! I don’t care if it’s a new dried-up version of it, the Original should’ve never been altered. But this Dumbass Dumbo wants to do whatever he wants to do, and doesn’t care who despises it. Which leads me to that question you stated at the end: I know this wasn’t intent straight at me, but I’ll answer it anyway. Why Am I’m Still Watching? I’m not going to give these other stations in town a time of day, I don’t care about the other stations in town because I’m not all that accustomed to them. And besides, I’m not going to break my habit and watch those other stations and avoid channel 7 because it continues to bring the best product out there. I’m specifically very irate of them using the newer cues. I’m more pissed of not hearing the older cues more, because like I said, the newer cues cheapens how great this station is. It cheapens it. None of the cues fit well with the style of the station. None of them. No station as great as WLS, needs to use these cues that sounds like a station from a mid-size market. Tom Hebel made the right decision not to use the newer cues. And I’ve gone to embrace the older theme a whole lot more as the longevity has grown more and more. Where is the longevity with the newer cues? I said in my previous post, none of the cues would last a year. No TV station that have news would even think about using the same music longer then even a decade plus. Hell not even five years. But despite all of these cosmetic changes, including the end of News Series 2000 Plus, I’m not going to say “Oh they’ve changed all of this? I’ll never going to watch the station ever again….” Because it doesn’t warrant that, despite have those two imbeciles stripping everything that I love. I care about WLS too much to stop watching, despite being sad about the music cues changes, but I’m excruciatingly pissed about those bastards that made that decision to get rid of the music cues, along the other stuff these bastards have done, like getting rid of the old movies airing on the weekend overnights. I look at the ABC O&Os, each station have the best product out there, including WLS. If I didn’t care about this station so much, I wouldn’t even be even be taking the time posting this or the post above. I wouldn’t have gave a damn. But since I do, I do have every right to say what I have to say, even if I am pissed about the things they’ve done recently. I’m not going to be mute and be silent about it, whether anyone likes it or not, whether anyone agrees or disagees with me, or otherwise. I care about this station so much that I don’t want to see this station look like these other O&Os and affiliates. If I see what’s not right about the stations, whether I’m watching Channel 7 or any other channel. And again, I’m exceeding irate about Dumbo and his sidekick being responsible for ditching those older cues, but at the same time, I’m moreso sad about this than angry. Now, 17 days in, and I’m still in mourning, I’m grieving through all of this. And I feel the music cue changes was the worst. Now getting a bit-off topic since you mention about WMAQ and their gloatness. The folks from Channel 5 needs to sit their asses down and shut the hell up, Seriously. Wert wouldn’t even gloat like that, as the current folks do now. I strongly agree with you. The day they’d announce that they lead in the A25/54 demo back in July, they were gloating like they’ve won the giant lottery drawing. I don’t like that one bit. What if Channel 2 do the same thing, I think 5 would’ve shut their mouths then. Yes, 2, 5 & 9 have been testing the waters of WLS, and even before Ms. Barr’s departure, WLS had to step up their game even more to be more competitive. Notice why you hear the news promos on a constant basis, and it’s been like that even before Ms. Barr left. And it’s a good thing. Being more competitive is always a good thing. But WLS never had to gloat and those silly bragging, despite being on top. That bragging would only get you right back to where you was before. And you would wish you’ll never gloat. But let me go back to the main piece of why I’m posting here. It took me a good while to get use to News Series 2000 Plus two decades ago. I don’t ever think I’ll ever get use to the new cues. As of now, I’m still can’t get over it. And I’ll add this.You stated that they’ve didn’t go completely with the other ABC pack. I now hear more cues of that package at this station more than ever before. The opening/closing theme & the bumper in the morning, and that return from commercial cue. And that early morning tease music they use on the weekend are NG version of NS2000+. All the other cues are from that other package. To me, all of these are just plain dry, and it doesn’t fit the content and the style of the news shows. It’s even excruciatingly painful to not and I repeat NOT hear the older cues AT ALL. I go back to the sentiment, the cues that I grew up listening too, which has sentimental value. It’s painful to hear the new cues where the old cues use to be, especially the use of the new cues also irks me gratetly. That’s where I get that real bad feeling inside. It’s almost like an equivalent of someone passing away, and you’re grieving so hard. It was like a part of me just left with it after the October 25’s 10pm show. The sentiment is really stronger now that the damage has already been done. I preach about the familiarity and longevity of a station’s news theme. It made no sense. You can’t change from 1992 to 2013 in a snap of a finger. As I said before, “If It Ain’t Broke, Don’t Fix It. Change AIN’T Always Good”. Set & Graphics, I don’t care if they change that. And for the record, I wasn't worried about that because I had a hunch that new graphics were coming. Because they didn't make the new talent opens after Sylvia's departure. so it was only a matter of time. So again, I didn't care for that. Content formula, style and delivery, thank God that station still have that. But the music should’ve never been touched. It’s bad to hear the new cues, but it’s gutwrenchingly painful to not hear the old cues. Those precious cues. The cues that I grew up too. I feel that any station who have used a theme song for a long period of time, and that song works with the style of the station’s newscasts and it resonates with the viewers, and the song cements into that person’s consciousness and brings sentimental value, like MCTYW in Philly, and it has that longevity, which makes it a tradition and a historical overtone, than the station should never alter it and drop its longtime theme song. So in closing, and I don’t give a damn what anyone says, I stand firm for what I said eliminating the LONGEST-used news theme in the station’s history was THE WORST move they’ve ever done. It was NEVER a reason to eliminate a timeless gem like News Series 2000 Plus. Absolutely NEVER. It's a shame. Terrible. And I’m going to leave it at that. Y’all can take it for what it’s worth. And y’all can send it straight to the cleaners.
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We have one little M&A tonight. It's not worth an alarm. But Sainte Partners continues to sell their properties. First they sold most of their Northern Cali properties last year to Bonten. Then sold its Medford LPs to Brian Brady. Now they are selling their Sacramento Telemundo affiliate, KCSO-LD to a new firm, Serestar Communications Corporation. for $1.6M. Serestar is ran by Entravision Communications director, Philip Wilkinson. After this sale, this would leave, Sainte Partners with Eureka's CBS station, KVIQ.
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It isn't going to help any much. It surely isn't going to get them any ratings either. Just a wasteful use of graphics. Who watches Fox 32 nowadays?
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I hope they don't change the callsign, especially since another station in that market also have a "W" in their calls (WHO). But I do agree, Nexstar needs to pour some capital into WOI. I doubt they can over-power the old-mighty 8 or even second-place 13. But if they can make the right investments that can breathe some life into WOI and two other stations, WHBF & KCAU, and to at least be competitive with WHO & KCCI, that would no doubt be an improvement. But I doubt Nexstar will change their calls. Not only it has a "W", but a three-letter call too? That would be a suicide move. I didn't even realize this either until someone from this board mention it. But most of the acquisitions that Nexstar is making. Not only they're clustering up in some of their key areas like Texas, Arkansas, Lousiana & especially Upstate NY, they tend to acquire these underdog stations. KGPE, KSEE, KGET & yes WPTY are prime examples of being these underdog stations, and what Nexstar have been doing is trying to breathe the life into its stations by pouring capital on building new sets, and graphics, and all of that. Yes back as late as probably before the Ozarks became the first widescreen & KARK became the first with news in HD, Nexstar was flocked with an exceeding cheap product. And their websites weren't even news friendly. Yes they still use those citystyle name gimicks, but now those webpages are better than ever, since acquiring Clear Channel's Inergize. And like some have said here, they're not making crazy impulsive, compulsive buying, or any major "blockbuster" lucrative deals like Gannett, Tribune & Media General. I even had some doubts about Nexstar, but I think Nexstar has really turned a 180 and they have really made a gigantous difference in 2013. And for that I commend them. Now I just hope and hurry up and approve the ComCorp acquisition. We're now in its 6th month now since the paperwork have been filed.
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I love it!
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NEW M&A Tonight!!!! And it's not good news. From the paperwork tonight, Access.1 Communications is selling WMGM in Wildwood, NJ to LocusPoint Networks for $6M. LocusPoint Networks is one of a few media companies (Including OTA Broadcasting & NRJ TV) who's been gobbling up stations (mostly low-rated stations, including LP stations) so they can resell them for the upcoming incentive spectrum auctions next year.
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Posted earlier, but I'll post it here too. Nexstar is acquiring stations owned by Grant Communications for $87.5M. Fox station KLJB will be assigned to Mission, and Nexstar will operate it under a LMA. Nexstar will own KGCW outright and the pending sale of three Citadel stations, including WHBF. So WHBF, KLJB & KGCW will be controlled by Nexstar in the Quads. With WHBF being an underdog, I believe Nexstar will make a much needed infrastructure into WHBF, and to have Fox station KLJB, this will be the first time that all of the Big-3 stations in town have produced its 9pm newscast at some point in time. Of course the first one who produced their newscast was local outsourced news firm Independent News Network. Then later WQAD, and right now KWQC. Now with this ownership change, they can easily end that agreement, once the deal closes. As for the other three markets, WLAX/WEUX is north of the Quads, and it goes kind of well with WFRV in Green Bay, and WZDX in Huntsville probably boost its Alabama presents with WDHN in Dothan (although Nexstar should pursue acquiring the full Calkins stations, including WAAY), Grant's flagship stations would be the first for Nexstar in that part of that region. It probably makes me thing that Nexstar could pursue in acquiring MG's WSLS, or MG could use its shell card to acquire WFXR in the future. With WLAX/WEUX, it makes me think that they're probably want to acquire the Morgan Murphy stations in Wisconsin, since they own WKBT, and it's flagship WISC in Madison. So although the Roanoke properties gives them another "island", the other properties shows how I love Nexstar's wise decision and have a strategic way to acquiring stations that makes the most sense. And for that I commend Perry Sook and the folks at Nexstar. So I think everybody should look at the Quad Cities market, because by the Spring, if not earlier, it would be the first time that all of the commercial TV stations in that market will have new owners (KWQC - Media General & WQAD - Tribune, along with WHBF/KLJB/KGCW - Nexstar).
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I thought the same way with the Mark III stations (KGWC/KGWL/KGWR) in Casper, WY, to reunite with KGWN. The only benefit for that would be nothing more than the connection of the controls, since KGWC doesn't air any newscasts. I know since Monday, I thought about "what if" one of those Laredo stations could possibly affiliate with ABC. That's probably was Gray's plan from the start. KGNS last affiliated with ABC on a secondary basis in until '84. So this would be 30 years, but it will be a first time they'll see a full-time ABC affiliate. But I doubt Brady would want to sell KVTV. And except for Entravision, that would give Gray almost have dominate media presence there. But of course anything can happen. If some numbers hit to a point, Gray may not have to use its "excalibur". Similar to what Brady is trying to do in Yuma.
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And that's what they just done. KTVA & KATH is now under GCI's control. Consummated last Friday. So that finally ends that. Thank The Lord. As for Gray's acquisition of the Frontier Yellowstone stations, they didn't have to wait to file that paperwork.