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  1. Curious, what would make you say that? I think it's well established that it was for WBAL - the last two lines of the song actually rhyme in the WBAL version, and the melody is from the final line of the "7's On Your Side" promo song, the same package WBAL was using just before. It's just the closing "7's On Your Side" with an extra syllable added at the beginning: "Seven's on your side" -> "Eleven's on your side." Or do you mean the news music package? I know that the image campaign came first, and I do believe the first news music to incorporate it was the GNP hybrid. Didn't the full Pride Inside music package come a while later?
  2. I've tried before, it's one of those situations where my info was just ignored.
  3. NMSA is incorrect - WXIA actually started using Hello News in 1982, not 1980. This is the "New Standard and Tradition" theme that was introduced with the affiliation swap in September 1980. (It's possibly by Peters Productions, though that's just a wild guess because they did the previous couple WXIA themes, and because the close had a sung jingle at the end.) I've had audio of the close for many years, but NMSA has never added it (even when this open surfaced a couple years back).
  4. Great that someone finally uploaded video of the open that's on NMSA. (Coincidentally, the NMSA audio clip was captured and contributed by me - I just never uploaded video to YT, due to being worried about copyright strikes myself. But I do still have the VHS with that news open on it.)
  5. It's not Klein &. It's TM Productions. It was originally from a radio package called "You II" (a sequel to the "You" campaign done for 93 KHJ). But there's a reason it sounds like Klein &. Both You and You II were written not by TM's staff composers in Dallas, but by L.A. composer Dick Hamilton - who also wrote/arranged the music for some of the Klein & campaigns (e.g., 3 for All, Call It Home, some iterations of The One & Only). The stuff he did for TM was also recorded in L.A., with the same studio musicians and singers as on the Klein & stuff. (However, this particular version for WIVB was sung by TM's regular vocal group in Dallas.)
  6. Actually, the Klein & "In the Great Northwest" was for KGW - I believe he mentioned it in one of my early phone calls with him nearly a decade ago. He referred to it as "8 in the Great Northwest." eyeontv posted some Klein & KGW IDs on YT a while back, they're instrumental but I'm pretty sure they're from that campaign. The melody exactly matches with the slogan. That KIRO one doesn't sound like Klein & at all, it may well have been a local Seattle production.
  7. Again, I don't know if it's because he also asked Bob Klein and got a "that's not my work" response. I don't believe I pass along negative answers to Mr. NMSA, though in this case I honestly can't remember. I agree that it just lines up too well not to be related. As to the other ones: Straight from the Heart was an image song for WBIR. The copyright record I'm looking at says 1984, not 1986 - but I've found both an official WBIR YouTube video of the promo dated 1983, and an off-air clip from September 1983 of an ID from the campaign. I've also found a 1988 35th anniversary promo for sister station WMAZ that uses the song. There's also a "Straight from the Heart II" dated 1989, which seems to correspond with another promo WBIR put up, and an ID in an off-air recording from 1989 - though WBIR dates their clip as 1986. Cincinnati Style was a WLWT image campaign; there's an example of that on YT as well. (There was also "Show Me 5" for KSDK, so Klein & did imaging for all 4 Multimedia VHF affiliates at various points during that mid-80s period.)
  8. The weird thing is that when I played Bob Klein the WPRI news theme, he was certain it wasn't his work. The promo obviously is, he just did not recognize the concurrent news theme music. His memory might just be fuzzy, though. I should ask Rick Krizman...
  9. Yeah, Collier Concepts came up with the original promotional imaging, but I don't know if they directly produced even the original music. Tom (eyeontv) Buckley told me his reel-to-reel tape copy of the WDVM music said Frank Becker Music on it. So my guess is that Collier Concepts *commissioned* the original music package from Becker? And yes, what I recall Hal Brown telling me was that VTS licensed that music for a syndicated package, I swear he did say he remembered WSOC when I asked if it was for WSOC. I will have to ask him again sometime. Either way, it all being under Collier Concepts for now isn't wholly inaccurate, though maybe in the future, if all the information is actually nailed down, I could ask NMSA to see if they would split the original (Frank Becker-produced?) campaign music and the (almost certainly VTS-produced?) syndicated news package.
  10. They were sister stations from 1973-89 (first under Combined, then Gannett, then Pulitzer - who owned them at the time of this clip).
  11. It definitely appears to have some connection to NBC. I have a DVD compilation of various classic TV promos and other stuff from 16mm, that I got off eBay long ago; it has a 1977 fall season promo for NBC that uses the same music (or at least a different cut of the same music package). Also, one of the NewsActive3 compilations has a late-70s WJAR promo "New England Turns Us On" which is based on the same music theme. And of course, both WJAR and WOC were/are affiliated with NBC...
  12. Most of the Archive stuff is interlaced - so it's not 60fps, but you can play it back at 60fps with the right tools. (Don't use VLC; most of the interlaced stuff on the Tobacco Archives is top-field-first, and VLC can only deinterlace bottom-field-first. Trying to use 2x deinterlacing on these clips in VLC will result in stutter from playing the images out of order.)
  13. Tuesday15 isn't the same melody, it's more like a rip-off.
  14. WCBS radio started using First News only fairly recently. It was commissioned by a TV station, WDIV in Detroit.
  15. This was my discovery - I found it on a Tuesday demo reel that I obtained from a jingle collector (in digital form). I was absolutely blown away; I had never thought about it before, I had just always assumed it was Michael Randall because it had the NewsCenter musical signature.
  16. Yeah, the KSDK "1981" theme (not KSD, the callsign change was in 1979, NMSA did fix that) is almost certainly not from 1981. In fact, from what I can tell KSDK used it *after* the 1984 theme, around 1985-86. (The most notable clip of it online is from their evening report of the Challenger disaster.)
  17. It is production, it's a KPM track. I forget the name of it, but I did find it. I just haven't gotten around to submitting the info to NMSA.
  18. Well, NMSA says this is Tuesday9, and we all assumed it was too (I can't remember if I was the reason it got merged into Tuesday9 in the first place), but this music (the package also used on KSDK/WHO/WBBH/WTVO) could actually be Telesound. It shows up on the John Chancellor promo on their demo. I know Telesound advertised an NBC affiliate package. If it was indeed Telesound, I am thinking that Tuesday9, the WESH package, was "inspired by" this Telesound package.
  19. Yeah, I think that makes sense. As you implied, WSOC seems to have been the client for the whole thing. I've already basically confirmed from Hal Brown that the WNDU 1991 package was done by VTS (having licensed the rights to the music), and he seemed to confirm to me that it was done for WSOC?
  20. I'm not sure of the specifics. TM did the music production, TM put together the promotional campaign (it was more than just music, if you can recall), TM syndicated it. And WFAA still has the trademark on "The Spirit of Texas" for TV promotion use. But Kirk may well still own the underlying musical composition - he was co-credited on the copyright registration for the KATU "Spirit" theme. Again, good thing for me to ask him.
  21. Jim Kirk composed the Spirit of Texas music for TM. While the BMI entry only says "Additional Nom-BMI Publishers", I know that the copyright registration is to Kirk himself - no mention of TM. Kirk worked with TM, at some points in time I think he was actually employed by TM, but at other times he was freelance/independent. (The WWL 1984 theme, from the info I obtained when ASCAP still had a listing for it, seemed to be Kirk by himself - no mention of TM. Though now that the original package it was based on is confirmed to be TM, I wonder if maybe the '84 package was still done by Kirk for TM. I should ask...) TM Productions does technically still exist. They merged with Century 21 Programming in 1990 to become TM Century. Then Jones bought TM Century and they became Jones TM. Then when Jones was itself bought, they became TM Studios.
  22. That reminds me of how there is absolutely no footage out there of the theme KCBS used in 1987-88*, after the "parallelogram logo/L.A. CGI flyover" and electronic theme (latest known video: January 1987) and before "Action 2 News" and the "I Love Chicago"-based VTS package (earliest known video: December 1988). Sure, NMSA has a ton of audio of it, but I still have no idea what the accompanying graphics/set/anything looked like. In the EIGHT years I've browsed YouTube, I've never found any news footage from KCBS between Jan. '87-Dec. '88. Why such a huge gap? *NMSA says it went from 1986-88, but all clips I've ever seen from 1986 and into Jan. '87 have the previous theme/look, making me think it actually started some time in '87.
  23. The Best News of All is very likely an evolution of the 1983 theme - it has the same 5-note signature (which was itself based on the 1978 theme). And there was that ID on the WFRV open with the 1983 theme. I am guessing Carmichael Lynch was the agency behind the 1983 theme too. Possibly 1978 also. (How did you find out about them? Did you find an article somewhere mentioning them?) Of course, who produced the music itself is still a mystery...
  24. According to NMSA, KTVI also used this in the late 70s - though NMSA has always had it mislabeled as "Jupiter, Saturn: Hoist the Planets". ("Saturn" doesn't sound like a news theme to me, and "Hoist the Planets" is obviously a corruption of "Holst's 'The Planets'")
  25. No, he's arguing that may well NOT be News Image. I've been thinking the same thing. There are a couple other themes in NMSA which are like that. For example, the WVEC 1987 cuts based on the Turn To signature - which are listed as Turn To News, but which could possibly be from someone else, because I think they sound just a little too cheap to be Gari.
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