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That's some great info!

I thought it was established that Gari only did music for Telenoticias, not the actual Telemundo network. And how does Mark Roumelis fit into all this? He is listed in BMI for "Noticiero Telemundo Opening", "Noticiero Telemundo Closing", "Noticiero Telemundo WSCV Opening" and "Noticiero Telemundo WSCV Closing". Roumelis' LinkedIn says he worked at Broadcast Video, Inc. from 1996-2001. BVI was a Miami-based company that had a music division called Rockin' Chair Creative Sounds, which is listed in multiple articles as having done music for Telemundo. For example, this article from May 1998 doesn't mention news, but it does mention Telemundo. https://web.archive.org/web/20061024060240/http://digitalcontentproducer.com/mag/video_five_guys_four/ I'm wondering what Roumelis did now that we know about Mike Greene. Perhaps Roumelis only did a version for WSCV?

Wally Wawro, who was Director of Creative Services at WFAA in the 80s/90s, referenced it on another forum: " We went in a different direction with some "consultant driven" news package in 1992 or so (that sucked beyond belief) " But he didn't say who did it. When I PMed him about it, he said he thought he had a DAT copy which would have identified the composer, but that he really didn't want to think about that package. (It's clear that he really, really didn't like it.)

Here's what I know about WRTV: - Tuesday did something for WRTV in 1979, it's listed in the Copyright Office. It doesn't say whether it's news or anything (literally, the title is just "WRTV"). I thought it might be the 1979 news theme, but the only source I have for identifying themes, former Tuesday CEO Tom DiNoto, did not recognize it off-hand. (That doesn't necessarily mean they didn't do it, but it does mean the lead has gone cold.) It says "Words and music" so the actual registration is probably for a song - but could said song be tied to a news theme? I guess we'd have to find a promo from '79 first... - Michael Randall did something for WRTV that's listed in ASCAP as "Station Style News Theme". And no, this is not the Michael Karp theme, because ASCAP also has a separate entry for "Station Style News" which lists Karp as composer. Could Randall have done the 1984 theme? - VTS Productions did the 1990 "Making a Difference" package.

I'll have to investigate this. I had wondered if WTLV 1989 was The Coast ('TLV was acquired by Gannett in 1988, and Gannett commissioned multiple packages from The Coast, and later Third Street, both for KARE and KUSA) But now I do wonder. The Coast stuff of that period didn't have a big orchestra, but this seems to. (And Grizzell and VTS were both involved in the fantastic orchestral update to Grizzell's KCRA theme. I'll definitely have to ask Hal Brown.)

I do wonder. I should try to contact him, if I can find an active email address or something. (Not sure if the one on his old site would still work if pulled off archive.org)

I believe it was dated 1983; I found it too, but I was always waiting to try to get in contact with Doug Benge and confirm. But I've been busy with my day job, so I haven't had much time to investigate these days. Benge was a composer based out of Indianapolis. The website for his company, BengeMark Music, was still up until some time last year. Not sure if he was using that name for his company in '83. NMSA updates info when they update it, I guess.

Those WDBB graphics debuted in 1984 when the station signed on, I wouldn't be surprised if they were legit and not a knockoff. But probably no way to find out now...

I may be the reason that was posted to TVPMM in the first place. I emailed the curator to confirm whether "Patterns", aka "WCVB 1974" (which had already been posted in full on the page for the game show Jackpot) came from the NBC library (which I suspected because it turned up on William S. Burroughs' "Dead City Radio", and the liner notes specifically mentioned use of production music from the NBC library), and if so, which volume did it come from? I asked so I could pass the info along to NMSA (and because I had been buying what few NBC library records I could find on eBay searching for it - but none of the ones I found had it). He confirmed it did, which volume it was from, and within a couple days he had added the entire record to the Vault (which is something he did on his own, I didn't ask him to or anything). I listened to it and was blown away to hear Tabloid (which I had already had a suspicion came from the NBC library, but I had no idea it was on the same volume!) Curiously, both tracks ended up on at least one non-NBC affiliate (Patterns on WCVB, Tabloid on WLAC) - clearly the library was not network-exclusive.

From what I understand (e.g. the Media Probes documentary) the red/white/blue look came from the Frank Magid consultancy firm. But Gannett really did take it and run with it.

The plot thickens. When I listened to the instrumentation of those promos (the horns, the teletype, etc.) I legitimately thought that could be Gari. But the head/tail didn't sound like Gari to me. The 1982 promo, the editorial intro and the intro and teaser cuts we've heard sound more Gari-esque...but are they? Now I wonder...

I can make out the label on the record in the first video, and under the title it says "(Kirk)". That means this was written by Jim Kirk, so it was almost certainly part of TM's campaign. So I don't think it was really an "inspiration," just a component of the larger promotional campaign.

That is NOT Casey Kasem. Kasem had a throatier quality to his voice that I do not hear with this guy. I have no idea who told NMSA it was Kasem, possibly the same person who brought it up here when he died?

Those weren't Image West. No idea who actually did do them, but Image West worked with Scanimate, while these were done on film using backlit animation, slit scan and optical techniques. (On a tangent, I wish I could someday find out who did the syndicated movie graphics that popped up on indie stations all over the country in the 80s - the gold film strip, the placard, the four spotlights, etc.)

I confirmed that VTS also did Clearly the One, not that it and the news theme were connected (though they could well have been).

That WMAQ music is a stock track from the Capitol library. "WOC News Theme" and the WOR Editorial music were also from the Capitol library; they were all written by Bill Loose and Emil Cadkin and may have even all been recorded around the same time (c. early-mid 60s). I have several Capitol "Production Music Series" vinyl LPs, and I actually think this WMAQ track may be on one of them. (Random trivia: Though I got them on eBay, they originally came from KGW-TV, and have something like "Property of KGW-TV" stamped on the cover.)

I was about to say that the WITI theme sounded like "You Can Count on Us", thanks for beating me to it and confirming it. I'd love to find out who did that campaign. Whoever it was, they were still syndicating it in 1989 - Ron Futrell has posted a KTNV version from the TVbD era.

I recognize one of the singers on KTVY 1980 - I've talked to him before, and he didn't remember who did it. Now I need to ask him if he remembers anything about Hayes. (I had assumed it was done in Dallas, since he has sung in Dallas for years. I guess I was wrong.)

I had found that before, but forgot about it. Conner has to have done more TV campaigns, and some were listed in the trades (Just Look at Us, Lookin' Out for You, 5 Comes Home to You) but no examples of them have surfaced.

There's also this accompanying promo reel: One commenter asked if this was proof that Telesound did WNBC 1979 and/or Our Pride Is Showing. I'm not sure... 1.) WNBC 1979 isn't actually heard in the WNBC promo, it's the same animation but different music. (WNBC 1979 may have been composed by someone named Michael Craig Tschudin - I've found a 1979 copyright registration for a NewsCenter 4 theme by Tschudin, also listed in ASCAP.) 2.) In an interview, Karl Sjodahl said that NBC contracted Telesound to produce affiliate versions of the 1980 and 1981 fall campaigns - so they definitely didn't do the network campaigns, just the local station versions. 3.) Some of the promos may even have music by Tuesday. The WIIC song sounds like it MIGHT be Tuesday (but perhaps not); the first WIS promo has the "News People" sig (but could be Telesound incorporating/"borrowing" the sig, sort of like how Tuesday worked the Number Thirteen melody into News Watch); and the music in the John Chancellor promos is in the NMSA sampler for Tuesday9 - though for all we know, the Chancellor/KSD/WTVO/etc. theme could have been Telesound, and Tuesday9 was just cribbing off of it. (Telesound was definitely offering an NBC affiliate news package - it was mentioned in trade publications.) And I know that later, Telesound/SjoCom worked together with Frank Gari (their website says they produced the KVBC version of the "Turn To" campaign). So just because they produced the promos doesn't necessarily mean they produced everything in the promos (sort of like how Jerry Smith Productions would do the live-action production for a lot of Gari promo campaigns). I know Telesound did stuff in cooperation with other companies, but I'm just not sure how much. For example, not only does the WIIC "New Spirit of Pittsburgh" promo song sound a bit Tuesday-esque (though again, I could be wrong), but the animation also appears on a Calico demo reel. And I previously found out from eyeontv that the previously-circulating clean "And You" animations came from a demo reel for Diamond and Diaferia (the same animation studio that did the classic ABC News animations - notice the resemblance?) Karl Sjodahl is still alive, I should ask him about this stuff sometime...

On the subject of unidentified Chicago themes from 1997 - the Copyright Office lists a "News 2 Chicago theme" by John F. Ovnik (Deaf Dog Music, though they aren't mentioned on the registration), created and registered in '97. I'm guessing this was the short-lived theme in between Enforcer and the Non-Stop custom?

Judging by the general trends of when TV stations change things up, I would be willing to guess that Hello News debuted on WXIA on January 1, 1982. As for the revamped "electronic" version of Hello News, I am guessing it debuted with the new logo some time in 1983. Possibly even on New Year's Day 1983 - it was definitely before September, because there is another clip elsewhere on YouTube The Hello News chronology seems to be falling into place. The "New Standard and Tradition" theme most likely ran from September 1, 1980 (with the switch to NBC) until January 1, 1982. Then the original "Hello News" would have run from 1/1/82 to (at least) 1/1/83, and at some point in '83 the logo and theme changed (probably simultaneously). It's great to see footage like this surfacing - for a long time, there seemed to be a black hole between "In Tune with Atlanta" during early 1980, and the 1984 CG intro with the updated Hello News...

Was this the same Jim who ran tvnewsthemes.net about a decade or so ago?

Wow, very intrigued. BTW, before anyone says anything, Audio Video Recorders is the name of the studio it was recorded at, not the company that produced it. So we still don't know who composed/produced it - though it certainly couldn't hurt to ask the person who put it up if he might know...

By all means, try to contact station people (and former station people, if you know of any) A correction - I don't think that WCVB song was Telesound. Yes, the "Channel 5 and You" slogan started with Telesound and "And You", but there are ASCAP and Copyright listings for a "Channel 5 and You" song by Harley Flaum and Tom Sellers (Radio Band of America, same people who did the American Airlines jingles - and WHAS 1975, which I found on the WAAY alumni site labeled as "Radio Band of America News Open" and "Radio Band of America News Close") That WCVB song doesn't sound anything like Telesound's own And You song, so I'd assume it is the one by Flaum and Sellers. (Maybe they could have done The Spirit of Tampa Bay too - would be best to talk to WFLA staff/alumni, seeing as Flaum passed on in 1994 and Sellers in 1988.) The only thing with the name "Spirit of Tampa Bay" in the Copyright Office is some song written by Anna Billion Brown, with a registration date of June 16, 1986, and Date of Creation also listed as 1986. The Channel 8 campaign debuted well before 1986. Brown is often co-credited with someone named Floyd Franklin Underwood, but none of either of their copyright listings suggest any TV work. So it's probably an unrelated composition.