channel2 982 Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Nexstar appears to have commissioned this, and it's already on KGPE; is it going to be rolled out to any of their other CBS stations? WCIA was mentioned in the Nexstar thread, but they aren't listed right now.
ABC 7 Denver 1729 Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 And it's a mediocre interpretation.
Weeters 1969 Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 It's allright. Another way for stations to get "that sound" without going full on Enforcer. WDJT should get it and put Third Coast in the garbage for good.
WCAUTVNBC10 413 Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 I actually really like it. I think it's a really good alternative to Gari's sound.
Jess 1116 Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 I've always been a fan of the Enforcer Signature, and a big reason is because you can do multiple interpretations of it. The original version, the PNP, the Curtis McKonly/WCBS theme, News in Focus, the Non-Stop themes, and Enforcer are all very different themes, but they all work in some way. I like Enforcer, and I think the newest version (which KYW has generously played out in full) is really good. But Enforcer's always had a certain "polished" sound to it, whereas this is grittier. In that way, it reminds me of News In Focus, which is a very good thing. In the end, honestly, I'm just glad there's an alternative.
AlNYTVRadio 21 Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 I like it, not as much as the new Enforcer, but still nice. I like all the CBS Signature packages! If I were to list them all in my favorite (from best to worst, and the worst is not bad): -Enforcer NG4 -Enforcer Series 2 -WCBS McKonly/Metro Music -Enforcer NG1 -Enforcer NG2 -This New Theme -PNP -News In Focus -The Rest of the Original Enforcer -Enforcer NG3 (Nobody used it much) and whatever I missed!
channel2 982 Posted October 10, 2013 Author Posted October 10, 2013 I hope we get to hear more cuts of this Arnold package soon. I don't really like Enforcer; until recently KCNC was using an original 1994 cut for bumpers and it has not aged well at all. New Generation 2 is alright, but KCNC only uses about three cuts of it.
Samantha 2902 Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 KPHO is still using bunches of original series cuts. They use tons of different Enforcer cuts that don't match. When NG4 is syndicated, here's hoping KPHO goes for it. The 1994 original set does not match 2013's newscasts. At all.
ABC 7 Denver 1729 Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 I hope we get to hear more cuts of this Arnold package soon. I don't really like Enforcer; until recently KCNC was using an original 1994 cut for bumpers and it has not aged well at all. New Generation 2 is alright, but KCNC only uses about three cuts of it. KCNC is all over the place with Enforcer!
sanewsguy 514 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 This is so much better than Enforcer, especially the new version WCBS is using. I hope more stations pick this up.
Jess 1116 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I think the problem with the original Enforcer isn't that it's a 1994 theme. It's that it's a theme from 1994 that's a note-for-note remake of a theme from 1975.
Leavellebrett 85 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I think the problem with the original Enforcer isn't that it's a 1994 theme. It's that it's a theme from 1994 that's a note-for-note remake of a theme from 1975. It may be note-for-note per se, but it's different. It has a totally different feel of how it's orchestrated. A lot of people are saying how dated the 1994 cuts sound, but I love it. It sounds classic, but fresh at the same time. I like the original Enforcer more than anything else that has come out of the New Generations.
T.L. Hughes 903 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I like it, not as much as the new Enforcer, but still nice. I like all the CBS Signature packages! If I were to list them all in my favorite (from best to worst, and the worst is not bad): -Enforcer NG4 -Enforcer Series 2 -WCBS McKonly/Metro Music -Enforcer NG1 -Enforcer NG2 -This New Theme -PNP -News In Focus -The Rest of the Original Enforcer -Enforcer NG3 (Nobody used it much) and whatever I missed! What about the Millennium 3 version of the signature? Although the I Love Chicago signature appears only sporadically within each theme of that version of the package.
channel2 982 Posted October 12, 2013 Author Posted October 12, 2013 I think the problem with the original Enforcer isn't that it's a 1994 theme. It's that it's a theme from 1994 that's a note-for-note remake of a theme from 1975. My problem with the 1994 cut they were using isn't entirely its age, admittedly, it's also that I didn't like how it sounded.
Leavellebrett 85 Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 My problem with the 1994 cut they were using isn't entirely its age, admittedly, it's also that I didn't like how it sounded. ...as in, relation to the other cuts being used?
channel2 982 Posted October 12, 2013 Author Posted October 12, 2013 In part; that particular cut of Enforcer was never my cup of tea anyway, though. (It's the first one in SouthernMedia's sample)
Leavellebrett 85 Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 In part; that particular cut of Enforcer was never my cup of tea anyway, though. (It's the first one in SouthernMedia's sample) That's probably my favorite cut in the whole collection.
TexasTVNews 1378 Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 http://southernmedia-nmsa.com/#3,2,2
ABC 7 Denver 1729 Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 That's probably my favorite cut in the whole collection. I agree with channel 2. That is my least favorite as well. He and I hear that constantly as the morning tease and bumper, even though NG2 is used as the open.
Leavellebrett 85 Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 I agree with channel 2. That is my least favorite as well. He and I hear that constantly as the morning tease and bumper, even though NG2 is used as the open. I do think that stations need to not use such a variety of cuts. There is a right and a wrong way to use a package as large as Enforcer or NBC Collection. If we're talking NBC Collection, it sounds weird and wrong to use a New Millennium cut for the open and use NG1 for bumpers. So, in the sense of using mix-matched cuts in the broadcast, that would be dated and wrong. They should use all NG2. But they could use the 1994 cuts elsewhere for an entire broadcast and it might sound great.
ABC 7 Denver 1729 Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 I agree. But definitely not with the old CBS package. And even for the morning news promos, KCNC uses News in Focus. I want to wring the director's neck!
tw-804 194 Posted April 21, 2014 Posted April 21, 2014 Bumping this old thread to tell you that Stephen Arnold Music has the new theme (that KGPE/Fresno and KIMT/Rochester, MN are currently using) on its website. It's called "CBS Local". http://www.stephenarnoldmusic.com/NewsMusic/index.php?package=cbslocal
joejoejo 3 Posted April 25, 2014 Posted April 25, 2014 the one i like the best of the local CBS themes is News In Focus by John Hegner Music link is here http://southernmedia-nmsa.com/#3,1,199
Jess 1116 Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 BOOOM. Stephen Arnold just came up with the PERFECT name for the signature. "CBS Local" might be his package... but CBS Local Signature has a VERY nice ring to it. the one i like the best of the local CBS themes is News In Focus by John Hegner Music link is here http://southernmedia-nmsa.com/#3,1,199 If I had to pick the best theme to use the CBS Local signature, it's this one. The variety of cuts, the very interesting takes, the amazing closes. The best theme in the whole package, in my mind, is the morning news theme. It's just magnificent. [yt]w-GQlG4HPaw[/yt]
ABC 7 Denver 1729 Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 You go ahead and like NiF. I'll take PNP! http://southernmedia-nmsa.com/#3,1,166
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