Leavellebrett 85 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I just noticed that the NMSA has a new update tonight. I'm seeing that there is now a Tower V.5 from 615 Music. It appears as though WSMV is using it. Does anyone have details? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennTV1983 743 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I just noticed that the NMSA has a new update tonight. I'm seeing that there is now a Tower V.5 from 615 Music. It appears as though WSMV is using it. Does anyone have details? I talked about it a couple of months ago when WSMV switched to Look F. It's a nice update to a 13-year-old package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike91 66 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Was there a Newswire V.2 before, because it is showing that there too. I don't know if that would be the new WAVY cuts or what WLVI used right before they got taken over by WHDH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestTV 1173 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I talked about it a couple of months ago when WSMV switched to Look F. It's a nice update to a 13-year-old package. But didn't Tower V.4 just come out a few years ago in like, 2008 or 9 or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1554 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 But didn't Tower V.4 just come out a few years ago in like, 2008 or 9 or something? Yes. This is not Tower V.5 as my esteemed friend and the NMSA claim it is. We know that every version of Tower has had a unique signature ending in the three-note chime. If you listen carefully, you will recognize that the signature is the same as Tower V.4. I find it more likely that this is likely a custom update for WSMV of Tower V.4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ntropolis 593 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Was there a Newswire V.2 before, because it is showing that there too. I don't know if that would be the new WAVY cuts or what WLVI used right before they got taken over by WHDH. The new WAVY stuff. It sounds a lot like "A New Wish" IMO. Interesting how that'll be packaged since Newswire has numerous updates… WAVY had some updates in 2001 or so, as well as several updates for WLVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoejo 3 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 I just emailed NMSA to have them fix this. i dont understand why it is still there after a month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ABC 7 Denver 1554 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 The theme that WSMV is using is indeed a cut from Tower. The Tower has a 7-note signature followed by a 3-note NBC chime; if the chimes are not played, an 8th note is added as a resolve. All this business about a different NBC chime sequence is nonsense and doesn’t mean a thing. The NBC chimes, while typically played in the notes of G, E and C, can also be played in virtually an other key (D-B-G // F-D-Bb // D#-C-G#). What makes The Tower in fact The Tower is the 7-note logo, not the 3-note NBC chimes. Logos/signatures are delicate things. Stephen Arnold Music takes the most liberty with their signatures, as many don’t stay in the same key or have extra resolve notes. Gari is more true to the signature, and 615 probably sticks to the literal signature the most... almost 100% of the time. Listen to the YouTube video again and I think you’ll agree." I completely agree and was not arguing to the contrary. However, each version of Tower has a different signature ending in the 3-note NBC chime (given the variance of other keys). V.1 has a different signature than V.2, which has a different signature than V.3, which has a different signature than V.4. All end in the 3-note NBC chime, but that is not my point. My point is that if Tower V.5 exists, why does it have the same signature as Version 4? Does that indeed make it a different version or just an update. That's the confusion. I realize that 615 may have confirmed that WAVY has Newswire V.2, but I would ague that based on their current hierarchy, it should be an update disc(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country News 435 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 615 does a lot of custom work for their hometown (Nashville) stations. For Example: WKRN's opening cut of Coverage has more stings than the syndicated version, and WTVF got Impact updated to V.6. I wouldn't be surprised if 615 did a custom version of Tower for WSMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1554 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 615 does a lot of custom work for their hometown (Nashville) stations. For Example: WKRN's opening cut of Coverage has more stings than the syndicated version, and WTVF got Impact updated to V.6. I wouldn't be surprised if 615 did a custom version of Tower for WSMV. You and I are on the same wavelength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sanewsguy 509 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 615 does a lot of custom work for their hometown (Nashville) stations. For Example: WKRN's opening cut of Coverage has more stings than the syndicated version, and WTVF got Impact updated to V.6. I wouldn't be surprised if 615 did a custom version of Tower for WSMV. Impact V6 is syndicated though (KEYT uses it)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country News 435 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Impact V6 is syndicated though (KEYT uses it)... I know it's syndicated, but I'm just saying that WTVF got Impact updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1554 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I know it's syndicated, but I'm just saying that WTVF got Impact updated. Exactly. And likely other stations will use the Tower V.4 Update even thought WSMV commissioned it. KNBC News Package is another example of the same dissemination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoejo 3 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 It is tower v5 that WSMV uses I emailed 615 music and they told me there is a tower v5 and newswire v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsmusicfan 12 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Well, it is official, Tower V.5 is now on the the website http://www.warnerchappellpm.com/tower-news-music-series/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestTV 1173 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Well, it is official, Tower V.5 is now on the the website http://www.warnerchappellpm.com/tower-news-music-series/ Wow. They wasted no time making a version 5. It sounds nice, however I think that I might like T4 better. That actiony sports theme just sounds plain weird. I really wish, though, that my local NBC affiliate could pick up The Tower and use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5276 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 The one thing I've always appreciated about the Tower franchise is that, while each version has evolved, the packages haven't strayed so far that they can't be used concurrently. Each has its own attitude and tone that makes it desirable for TV stations. V.1 is still arguably the best rendition...but I'm incredibly biased. It's grand, orchestral, and all-around one of my favorite themes ever. V.2 is definitely a departure from the original. It's far more driving, rhythmic, and kinda gritty...almost tabloid-ish. I've always thought of V.3 as a crossbreed of it's predecessors. I'm kinda indifferent on V.4, it's definitely my least favorite in the whole package. I dunno. V.5, is a very nice change from V.4. I feel that it ties-in well with the original, but (like Gari has done) I can't help but think it's 615's answer to L.A. Groove. That's not a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 996 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 The one thing I've always appreciated about the Tower franchise is that, while each version has evolved, the packages haven't strayed so far that they can't be used concurrently. Each has its own attitude and tone that makes it desirable for TV stations. V.1 is still arguably the best rendition...but I'm incredibly biased. It's grand, orchestral, and all-around one of my favorite themes ever. V.2 is definitely a departure from the original. It's far more driving, rhythmic, and kinda gritty...almost tabloid-ish. I've always thought of V.3 as a crossbreed of it's predecessors. I'm kinda indifferent on V.4, it's definitely my least favorite in the whole package. I dunno. V.5, is a very nice change from V.4. I feel that it ties-in well with the original, but (like Gari has done) I can't help but think it's 615's answer to L.A. Groove. That's not a bad thing. I agree. L.A. Groove is getting a little stale, it hasn't been updated since 2006? I do like Tower V.5 as a replacement for L.A. Groove, more than Gari's attempted rendition of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoejo 3 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 A3N and 24994j were can I see or hear the Gari version of LA Groove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5276 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 A3N and 24994j were can I see or hear the Gari version of LA Groove http://bcove.me/d1gozfyx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1554 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I agree. L.A. Groove is getting a little stale, it hasn't been updated since 2006? I do like Tower V.5 as a replacement for L.A. Groove, more than Gari's attempted rendition of it. I disagree. Buuutttt, have you heard the WNBC tease cuts? Those are awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 996 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I disagree. Buuutttt, have you heard the WNBC tease cuts? Those are awesome! Haven't heard those cuts, but I will say that there are some cuts from L.A. Groove that I really like. Like this closing cut (tune in at :47): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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