WCAUTVNBC10 413 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Would Tropical Depression Schwartz be willing to give up the chief meteo spot for BoBo to come back? I don't see either being willing to be at CAU for anything less than the top billing. Bowtie has been quoted as saying he wouldn't mind working under Bolaris. But here's the thing. If 10 is trying their damnedest to keep Doug Kammerer (so I've heard), Bowtie could be the lone man out if Bolaris comes back although technically the still need a weekend morning meteorologist as there is still a question of if they are going to hire Karen Thomas full time. If that's case and Bolaris comes back, then Glenny's out. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-15639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderJay27 45 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Would Tropical Depression Schwartz be willing to give up the chief meteo spot for BoBo to come back? I don't see either being willing to be at CAU for anything less than the top billing. Bowtie has been quoted as saying he wouldn't mind working under Bolaris. But here's the thing. If 10 is trying their damnedest to keep Doug Kammerer (so I've heard), Bowtie could be the lone man out if Bolaris comes back although technically the still need a weekend morning meteorologist as there is still a question of if they are going to hire Karen Thomas full time. If that's case and Bolaris comes back, then Glenny's out. But they wouldn't kick him completely out. They'd fit him in somewhere. I mean, the promo... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbayCQLVMTI... tells it all. Out of curiosity, why wouldn't they move Warren out if they hire K.T. on? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-15640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Horn 78 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Bowtie has been quoted as saying he wouldn't mind working under Bolaris. But here's the thing. If 10 is trying their damnedest to keep Doug Kammerer (so I've heard), Bowtie could be the lone man out if Bolaris comes back although technically the still need a weekend morning meteorologist as there is still a question of if they are going to hire Karen Thomas full time. If that's case and Bolaris comes back, then Glenny's out. But they wouldn't kick him completely out. They'd fit him in somewhere. I mean, the promo... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbayCQLVMTI... tells it all. Out of curiosity, why wouldn't they move Warren out if they hire K.T. on? I thought the same -- Warren's kind of weak, IMO. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-15648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsgood 0 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 I guess if they hire Thomas for the weekend a.m., they'll want someone for the p.m. Amy Freeze was good in that role. Shame she left. Don't want to sound harsh, but Warren still seems a little unsure of himself and a bit stiff. Bolaris wouldn't take a weekend role, would he? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-15655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCAUTVNBC10 413 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Would Tropical Depression Schwartz be willing to give up the chief meteo spot for BoBo to come back? I don't see either being willing to be at CAU for anything less than the top billing. Bowtie has been quoted as saying he wouldn't mind working under Bolaris. But here's the thing. If 10 is trying their damnedest to keep Doug Kammerer (so I've heard), Bowtie could be the lone man out if Bolaris comes back although technically the still need a weekend morning meteorologist as there is still a question of if they are going to hire Karen Thomas full time. If that's case and Bolaris comes back, then Glenny's out. But they wouldn't kick him completely out. They'd fit him in somewhere. I mean, the promo... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbayCQLVMTI... tells it all. Out of curiosity, why wouldn't they move Warren out if they hire K.T. on? Warren's officially weekend PM now. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-15656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCAUTVNBC10 413 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 I guess if they hire Thomas for the weekend a.m., they'll want someone for the p.m. Amy Freeze was good in that role. Shame she left. Don't want to sound harsh, but Warren still seems a little unsure of himself and a bit stiff. Bolaris wouldn't take a weekend role, would he? That's where Bolaris is now after being slighted by his current employer. I don't he move out just to go to the same situation. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-15657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderJay27 45 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 I guess if they hire Thomas for the weekend a.m., they'll want someone for the p.m. Amy Freeze was good in that role. Shame she left. Don't want to sound harsh, but Warren still seems a little unsure of himself and a bit stiff. Bolaris wouldn't take a weekend role, would he? That's where Bolaris is now after being slighted by his current employer. I don't he move out just to go to the same situation. Right. Which is why the only spot we can all figure is chief meteorologist. We know there will be shifting, with the exception of Kammerer and Henely. No John wouldn't come down to Philly here to weekends. But Hurricane could end up there. K.T.'s doing well and Dave currently holds a spot there too. With the experience Glenn has, he'll still be with the team on-air. Just which spot will he get and who will be the odd person out, if any. I like having a female weekend evening weather person and Amy Freeze was excellent as you've noted. But K.T. brings liveliness to that weekend morning team. So it's a nice problem to have I guess, especially with the most popular weather person currently in Philly going on maternity leave. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-15672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCAUTVNBC10 413 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Here's how I'd work this out. Option A (With Bowtie) M-F Mornings Bill Henley 4PM-5PM Doug Kammerer 6PM-11PM John Bolaris Sat-Sun Morning/Midday Karen Thomas Sat-Sun 6PM-11PM Glenn Schwartz Option B (No Bowtie) M-F Mornings Bill Henley 4PM-5PM Doug Kammerer 6PM-11PM John Bolaris Sat-Sun Morning/Midday Karen Thomas Sat-Sun 6PM-11PM Dave Warren Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-15673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderJay27 45 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Here's how I'd work this out. Option A (With Bowtie) M-F Mornings Bill Henley 4PM-5PM Doug Kammerer 6PM-11PM John Bolaris Sat-Sun Morning/Midday Karen Thomas Sat-Sun 6PM-11PM Glenn Schwartz Option B (No Bowtie) M-F Mornings Bill Henley 4PM-5PM Doug Kammerer 6PM-11PM John Bolaris Sat-Sun Morning/Midday Karen Thomas Sat-Sun 6PM-11PM Dave Warren I think option A is more realistic. But who knows. They might find someway to make it work with all 6 of 'em. Yes I know that's pushing it, but anything's possible. Channel 6 did it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-15676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsgood 0 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Option A is reasonable, but I would give Kammerer the 6 and 11. He's young and on the rise and I think pretty popular. btw, what in the world do you mean when you say Karen Thomas livens up the weekend morning show? John Blunt is downright electric! ;D Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-15691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
civic110 18 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Shouldn't this be in the Philadelphia thread now? I think it's lost its NY-appeal. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-15698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCAUTVNBC10 413 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Not as long as Bolaris is still in NY. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-15699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
civic110 18 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Ads claim, and so does their website that he's still on CBS2, but you never see the guy in weeks. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-15700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff150 0 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Ads claim, and so does their website that he's still on CBS2, but you never see the guy in weeks. I believe I saw him a week ago, that would be the weekend of 7/14-7/15 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-15733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
civic110 18 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 That's right...I barely saw him that weekend. Where was he this weekend? Elise Finch was doing her usual weekend thing. If you notice on the website bios, Elise Finch says "weekend meteorlogist"...everyone else has their time slots and JB has nothing listed. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-15735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertywcbs 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 As I've noted in the past, John doesn't take time off. So I imagine he has quite a bit of it accumulated that now that he knows he isn't staying at WCBS, he's using all of it up before he's gone. Personally, that must be nice, to have about 6 months of paid time off. I would like to see Elise Finch take over for Lonnie now. or Bolaris take back his spot, and have Elise take over for Elliott. Either way, the current weekday weather anchors for CBS 2... horrendous. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-16138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistroh 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Sorry everyone, but through the years I've never understood John Bolaris's appeal. Halting, choppy delivery, not a polished communicator at all (see Sam Champion, Lee Goldberg, Nick, Craig, Cimino, the best in NYC). OK looking, well dressed, not a stud. Awkward body movements...ala the new prettyboy Lonnie... And, from everyone I know, he's not even a true meteorologist..no degree or "Mississippi" certification or whatever.. So what's all the fuss? So what if the Philly gossip pages liked to write about his dating life? Maybe he'll end up replacing that phoney "G" at CW 11. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-16176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
budtkaboy2000 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 From his bio: After graduating from Suffolk County Community College in 1980 with a degree in applied science, Bolaris joined the Air National Guard and also studied meteorology at the U.S. Air Force Weather Technical School in Chanute, IL. He was assigned to New Jersey’s McGuire Air Force Base in the early 1980s as weather specialist, as well as to the 201st weather flight in Westhampton, New York. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-16212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseyfla 207 Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 You beat me to it. Yep he is a meteorologist, but he just doesn't have a Bachelor's in Meteorology like everyone else. I think he's one of those "grandfathered" TV talents from years ago where you really didn't need a Bachelor's Degree to get into the TV business. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-16213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCAUTVNBC10 413 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 You beat me to it. Yep he is a meteorologist, but he just doesn't have a Bachelor's in Meteorology like everyone else. I think he's one of those "grandfathered" TV talents from years ago where you really didn't need a Bachelor's Degree to get into the TV business. He has more cred than say, Dave Roberts. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-16214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseyfla 207 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 I'm a schmuck!! I went off topic. Post removed. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-16219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Horn 78 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Exactly, in about 15 to 20 years I think we can start naming personalities with an Associate's or no college education, but right now I think that list would be long nationwide. I know a few of them are KNBC's Fred Roggin (Broadcasting School), WFLA's Bob Hite (US Marine Corps, Photojournalist), and WTVT's John Wilson (US Army, Broadcaster). But we're not talking about sports reporters and news anchors, jerseyfla. You'll note that yours is the first post that breaks away from discussing meteorologists. As meteorology is part of the hard sciences family, we hope and expect that the person forecasting our weather has at least some formal training in the field. Personally, it doesn't concern me greatly if Fred Roggin hasn't received enough training to report sports. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-16282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCAUTVNBC10 413 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Exactly, in about 15 to 20 years I think we can start naming personalities with an Associate's or no college education, but right now I think that list would be long nationwide. I know a few of them are KNBC's Fred Roggin (Broadcasting School), WFLA's Bob Hite (US Marine Corps, Photojournalist), and WTVT's John Wilson (US Army, Broadcaster). But we're not talking about sports reporters and news anchors, jerseyfla. You'll note that yours is the first post that breaks away from discussing meteorologists. As meteorology is part of the hard sciences family, we hope and expect that the person forecasting our weather has at least some formal training in the field. Personally, it doesn't concern me greatly if Fred Roggin hasn't received enough training to report sports. Getting back on subject, you have to keep in mind, 85% of colleges do not offer meteorology as a major. Most schools offer a general Earth Sciences program which has quite a few meteorology courses but you usually don't get the hands on lab work that you would get if say you went to Penn State and took their meteorology major (which I took for one semester before transferring to a state school after getting the tuition bill). Most people in this situation also take a major in broadcast journalism (if it's offered) and gets in with the school's tv station (once again if the school has one). To me doing that and getting that kind of experience is a lot more valuable than going to a stuffy shirt school that'll give you a piece of cardstock that says you passed a bunch of tests and homework to complete a course of study. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-16291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Horn 78 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Getting back on subject, you have to keep in mind, 85% of colleges do not offer meteorology as a major. Most schools offer a general Earth Sciences program which has quite a few meteorology courses but you usually don't get the hands on lab work that you would get if say you went to Penn State and took their meteorology major (which I took for one semester before transferring to a state school after getting the tuition bill). Most people in this situation also take a major in broadcast journalism (if it's offered) and gets in with the school's tv station (once again if the school has one). To me doing that and getting that kind of experience is a lot more valuable than going to a stuffy shirt school that'll give you a piece of cardstock that says you passed a bunch of tests and homework to complete a course of study. Agreed, and that's why you don't see me saying that meteorologists should spend four years working on a degree. I merely hope that they have training in the field. Someone who has had that hands-on experience that you talk about, paired with a degree in broadcast communications, general science, journalism, or what-have-you seems quite ideal to me. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-16293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistroh 0 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 You don't want to see meteorologists getting a 4-year degree or going to a "stuffy shirt" university? Sorry, but you're lowering the standards...part and parcel of what's happening with tv news hires in general. Personally, what's ideal for this viewer is a meteorologist. Period. Someone with a degree (uh, it is a science, whether or not that matters to you) AND a nice appearance and communication skills would be ideal. Someone with a "broadcast communications" degree who "does" weather..even if they took a few courses, or whatnot..is NOT a meteorologist to me and has no business bringing their forecast to a viewing public depending on them for their expertise. All these lesser qualifications you suggest (ie..some kind of "training" in weather but with their degree in journalism) should do just that..JOURNALISM. Enough with the dumming down of media weather reports. Would you want someone who has "some legal training" but no law degree rep you in court? [and please don't reply with the usual old "but that's law, don't compare it with meteorology.] There's no substitute for a proper education, especially in something as difficult as the physical sciences. John Bolaris is a "weathercaster," "forecaster," etc. Lee Goldberg...HE's a meteorologist. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/1631-john-bolaris-scrapped-or-demoted-from-cbs-2/page/2/#findComment-16384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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