TheTalk 1 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 For those of you on here that very rarely consider the good journalism actually done by some stations just saw this from Whtm. Pretty impressive. They say they got more than the stations in Pittsburg and Philadelpha. Cue Susquehannavalleywgal to cry about Al Gonza is 3 2 1. HARRISBURG, Pa. (WHTM) - ABC 27 leads all Pennsylvania television stations with 26 nominations for Mid-Atlantic Emmys. The nominations announced Tuesday night include two for best newscast in a medium-market TV station. ABC 27 News Live at 5 and ABC 27 News Nightside each received nominations. The station received another nomination for its team coverage of a May 2013 fuel tanker fire along Interstate 81 near Harrisburg. Dennis Owens was recognized for his Community Affairs Feature reporting and his Continuing Coverage of electricity bills that spiked for variable rate customers last winter. Owens and Alicia Richards each received nominations for On-Camera Talent. Kendra Nichols received four nominations; for General Assignment Reporting, Human Interest Reporting, and two for Feature News Reporting. Alex Hoff received three nominations and Megan Healey is up for two awards. The awards will be presented by the Mid-Atlantic Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts & Sciences. The winners will be announced in September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtraveler01 737 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Congrats to WHTM. Hopefully MG will keep the status-quo even if they keep getting beat by WGAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin2kx 229 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I'm not from the area, but i guess the takeaway could be that while WGAL is the 800 lb gorilla that continues to pound away WHTM in the ratings, it's WHTM itself that (by comparison) is well regarded by its industry, thus awarded with such nominations. Quality counts there, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTalk 1 Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 WGAL isn't quite the 800lb gorilla that people make it out to be. When they tell you about their gigantic advantage they're only using their numbers in York and Lancaster County. My understanding is 27 pulls huge shares in the Capital region and is dominant number 1 in Dauphin, Cumberland counties... 8 is very distant there. It's a game of numbers and the population in York and Lancaster is much larger by comparison. If you understand math then you can make sense of how there could actually be two really strong stations in this market...unless you opt for the hearst spin machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leavellebrett 85 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 WHTM really isn't THAT bad. It's not my taste, but it's better than WHP any day. WGAL is just huge because there are a lot of older folks who watch it and grew up with it and showed their kids who showed their kids. I have family who moved to the Harrisburg area a few years ago and they can't stand WGAL. They are WHTM only. So, WHTM does have a good operation, but I like WGAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1679 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I consider regional Emmys to be iffy. I started a thread about this during the Capital Emmys award and nominations process. Here in the Capital Emmys region covering all of the DMV (District, Maryland and Virginia) you have to pay to be nominated. Prices for academy members ranging from $115 for the first nomination, $140 for the second and $165 for the third and each subsequent entry after that. The more pieces you nominate the better your chances. WRC in Washington submitted 64 entries and received 24 nominations at a minimum of $10,485. Sinclair station WBFF entered 45 entries but only got 13 nominations at a minimum of $7350. WRC won the most Emmys with a grand total of 11 statues and WBFF was tied in third place with 9 Emmys. I'm sorry with those odds I would feel that I wasted a decent amount of money, I don't want to discount WHTM's accomplishment but Sinclair (which was the owner when they were submitted) locally has a track record of submitting a ton of entries. It's essentially a pay to play game. I'm looking at the entry fees for the Mid Atlantic Emmys and at a minimum with early bird registration and for those who are academy members receive a discounted rate at $60 per entrant. Most categories have a maximum of seven entrants per entry. For example an entry on a piece would be $180 if the reporter, photographer and producer submitted their names. There is no information on how many entries they submitted but I still commend them for being nominated. I find it amazing that a mid market station is beating out powerhouses like ratings winner WPVI and WCAU which has the more substance than style in Philadelphia. By the way here was my original post back in May: I've read on DCRTV.com numerous times people under the mailbag section seem to slam the Capital Emmy Awards based on the fact that stations have to pay for the consideration to be nominated. The National Capital / Chesapeake Bay Chapter encompasses all of Washington DC, Maryland and Virginia. The entry fees are $115 for the first entry, $140 for the first additional entry and $165 for each entrant after that. Then there are different fees for three categories two are at $350 and one is at $150. Of course all of these are the fees form members of the regional chapter and provided you get your entries in on time. Needless to say these prices will keep a lot of stations and independent producers from submitting their work. The only stations that really could submit it a lot more come from the "large market" spectrum basically meaning Washington and Baltimore (which could be a stretch being DMA 26 but aren't large markets considered top 50?), I also think it also includes Hagerstown (which would be even more of a stretch and I don't know why Nielsen counts it as part of the Washington market). When the nominees were announced they also noted the total number of entries. The station with the most entries was WRC with 64 total which means they spent at least $10,485 but they only got 24 nominations meaning they wasted $6,600. The second runner up was WUSA with 56 entries at $9,350 but only got 10 nominations wasting $8,745. Meanwhile lower rated stations like WMAR, WBFF submitted 39 and 65 respectively but only got 4 and 13 actual entries. http://www.capitalemmys.tv/sites/default/files/2013%20Emmy%20Nominations%20FINAL.pdf The whole way this is setup just screams of a scam to me. The chapter received 825 entries total and if each entry was the only entry for each group (i.e. 1 entry per station/group) they would make $94,875 but it didn't end that way so they made a whole lot more. The pay per entry thing just doesn't seem right to me because it enables groups who may not deserve the award to get recognition especially in categories where they were the only submittal. Basically it's saying you have to pay to play and reap the awards of winning. A better way would be to allow people to submit entries for themselves or (better yet) other organizations with out fees but then again that wouldn't pay for the statuettes that every person gets - the only way to break even would be to raise the dues and the cost of admission to the dinner from $60 and $145/plate. What are all of your views on regional Emmys? Do you agree with me that they are just self congratulatory and narcissistic? And do other chapters follow this same model? Are there other suggestions to getting rid of pay to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susquvalleywgal 494 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 You want my reaction ... you'll get it. Last. Ditch. Effort. To. Save. Their. Asses. Nuff said. -- Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1945 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 You want my reaction ... you'll get it. Last. Ditch. Effort. To. Save. Their. Asses. Nuff said. -- Matt If Media General can't do it. Who can? Although many might think its ugly, I do hope they keep the "27" logo though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTalk 1 Posted August 30, 2014 Author Share Posted August 30, 2014 Found this on Wiki: WHTM has long placed second in the ratings among the market's newscasts, though in recent years it has closed the gap with longtime ratings leader WGAL. Generally, WHTM leads the way in the market's northern counties, such as Dauphin, Cumberland and Perry (including the state capital of Harrisburg, and Carlisle).[16] WGAL has stayed in first mainly due to its dominance of York and Lancaster counties, which contain the majority of the market's population. Starting in 2012, WGAL began experiencing declines in news viewrship, the largest occurring in May 2013; WHTM saw consistent growth, including significant gains during thst same sweeps period.[17] That July, WHTM-TV beat WGAL for the first time at 5 p.m. among adults 25-54, while also experiencing ratings increases in other time periods, including at 6 p.m. and created a virtual tie with WGAL at noon. For the November 2013 ratings period, WHTM was the only television station in the market to show significant growth in all newscasts. WGAL's news viewership dropped in every single time period that month, as did WHP-TV. WHTM's morning, 5 and 6 p.m. newscasts all saw gains of at least one rating point and in some cases, in excess of five share points. .......... I grew up watching this station and they are the most watchable in the market, better talent, down to earth, good interaction, save the occasional 5th grade comment from Mr. Gnoza. If that info on wiki is true what makes you think there's any need to "save their asses"? A growing, competitive station isn't something that will be messed around with, At least I wouldn't think. Will be interesting to see what happens for sure. Maybe WGAL SHOULD BE EVEN MORE WORRIED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsitCC? 6 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Are you sure we aren't talking about the same Al Gnoza who is employed by WHTM and made quite a controversial comment following the art work segment in the 5pm newscast yesterday? "A number 2 pencil always beat doing a number 2" - Al Gnoza Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susquvalleywgal 494 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Yes, the same one. Very unprofessional, to say the least. -- Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsitCC? 6 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 You want my reaction ... you'll get it. Last. Ditch. Effort. To. Save. Their. Asses. Nuff said. -- Matt Sounds correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTalk 1 Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 Just caught this on their website ABC 27 awarded eight Emmys Posted: Sep 22, 2014 11:22 AM EDT Updated: Sep 22, 2014 11:22 AM EDT By Myles Snyder - email HARRISBURG, Pa. (WHTM) - ABC 27 received eight awards for news coverage at the Mid-Atlantic Emmys. Thirteen members of the ABC 27 News team collected trophies when the awards were presented Sunday in Philadelphia. Kendra Nichols and photographer Eric Heisler received the award for General Assignment Reporting. Nichols and photographer Jon Eirkson received the award for Feature News Reporting in a Series. Josh Reed was awarded an Emmy for Sports News Feature, and Steven Fisher and Heisler took home awards for Feature News Report. Fisher received a second Emmy for Video Journalism. Dennis Owens collected an Emmy for Community Affairs Feature, while Alex Hoff and photographer Deryk Thompson won the award for Health News Story. Heisler and Thompson each picked up trophies for News Photography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatIsNews 1 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Found this on Wiki: WHTM has long placed second in the ratings among the market's newscasts, though in recent years it has closed the gap with longtime ratings leader WGAL. Generally, WHTM leads the way in the market's northern counties, such as Dauphin, Cumberland and Perry (including the state capital of Harrisburg, and Carlisle).[16] WGAL has stayed in first mainly due to its dominance of York and Lancaster counties, which contain the majority of the market's population. Starting in 2012, WGAL began experiencing declines in news viewrship, the largest occurring in May 2013; WHTM saw consistent growth, including significant gains during thst same sweeps period.[17] That July, WHTM-TV beat WGAL for the first time at 5 p.m. among adults 25-54, while also experiencing ratings increases in other time periods, including at 6 p.m. and created a virtual tie with WGAL at noon. For the November 2013 ratings period, WHTM was the only television station in the market to show significant growth in all newscasts. WGAL's news viewership dropped in every single time period that month, as did WHP-TV. WHTM's morning, 5 and 6 p.m. newscasts all saw gains of at least one rating point and in some cases, in excess of five share points. .......... I grew up watching this station and they are the most watchable in the market, better talent, down to earth, good interaction, save the occasional 5th grade comment from Mr. Gnoza. If that info on wiki is true what makes you think there's any need to "save their asses"? A growing, competitive station isn't something that will be messed around with, At least I wouldn't think. Will be interesting to see what happens for sure. Maybe WGAL SHOULD BE EVEN MORE WORRIED! This is from the February 2014 book, but it would appear WGAL doesn't have too much to worry about (besides maybe an outdated Wiki page): http://www.ycea-pa.org/news/2014/04/21/alliance-member-news/february-2014-nielsen-survey-shows-wgal-1-in-top-50-markets-of-the-usa-in-affiliate-local-news-share/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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