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KTLA/WPIX? CW? That's a bit of a stretch isn't it?
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Every CBS Gray website in Ohio and West Virginia shows the CBS logo. Fox's successful formula is to own stations in NFL cities. That way they get to double dip on both the local and national advertising sides. It's not far fetched in a world where NBC dumped KRON and WHDH that CBS could see an opportunity to add another top 10 Market to their stable.
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Just for fun, I scanned as many CBS affiliate websites in Ohio and surrounding areas I could think of. Everybody's website featured the CBS logo in some form except for WKRC and WHIO. Even Gray stations in Ohio and WV use the CBS logo on their website. WIYE-LD in Parkersburg doesn't appear to have a website, but they include the CBS Eye in their logo. Weird.
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There are rumors where people are blowing smoke, and then there are other rumors where there might be something to them. Given how all the pieces are fitting together, this one deserves a little more than a blow off. That doesn't mean it's going to turn out this way, but I still think it's weird to not have the CBS logo anywhere on your website or a link to "Your favorite CBS shows!" Even a small logo up in the corner or down at the bottom would be enough, yet there is nothing.
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I think part of that roadmap goes through San Francisco with KNTV and Boston with WBTS. NBC took relatively strong affiliates and brought them in house without batting an eye. If it didn't work in San Francisco, they wouldn't have done the same thing (and even more) in Boston. And I am still amazed at the ingeniousness involved with channel sharing an LPTV license on public television and back dooring into a full powered signal in Boston. Their ratings might be bad, but that was a smart way to work the system. In Atlanta, you have a weak affiliate. Given how well this thing in Detroit seems to be working out, I wouldn't hesitate at all. Tampa would be interesting. I don't know how WTSP does in the ratings but traditionally they've been in third place. ABC is on a UHF channel number and WTOG has a storied history there, so that one almost seems like a no-brainer as well. They won't owe the bankster any favors if he ends up taking over Tegna. WTOG has the better UHF signal and a 1500 ft Tower. WTSP is a VHF. I don't know about Seattle, though. KIRO seems to be pretty strong, but it's every man for himself out there. Also might be away for CBS to get back at gray for sticking them on so many .2's
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CBS doesn't own a station in Hartford.
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-No CBS logos on the ANF website, which is normal when stations are losing their affiliation; -Meredith renewed their CBS contract in 3-year increments, the last contract was in 2020, probably ending in 2023; -Low rated station CBS wouldn't miss; -CBS dumping CW from CBS-owned Channel 69; -Better dial position (hit the down button from Channel 2 and 69 is where you end up); -Maximum power signal at 1000 KW. All signs are pointing to this being the new WJXT, WISH, WHDH.
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I'm sorry I got everybody off on a tangent, but CBS needed some place to park the CW back in the old days. Now they don't. But just take a look at the WANF website. Not a CBS logo in sight. I don't think it's a stretch to think they are going the way of WISH, WJXT and WHDH. Gray didn't have to do anything just as Sunbeam didn't have to do anything in Boston. CBS may just want to bring things in house. What you see in this Detroit launch will probably end up being relevant in Atlanta. I just noticed the Atlanta News First thread below. Sorry if I went off on a tangent. LOL
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I think over on the other thread they said that CBS is dropping CW in Atlanta and at least one other city. That's not speculation. The speculation part was that they were going to turn Channel 69 into CBS for Atlanta. I think given what you see when you go to atlantanewsfirst.com you can take that out of the speculation category. I think it has legs. Just my opinion.
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Yeah, but not a single CBS logo on their homepage? You really have to dig on their website to find any reference to CBS. I couldn't find any. Since the Detroit News launch seems to be going well, don't be surprised if Atlanta isn't next. They already have a 30-minute newscast produced in Dallas. Also, if you dig back into google, there was an announcement in March, 2020 about Meredith re-upping with CBS. The previous renewal was in 2017 so we are on a 3-year timeline. Sorry if this is speculation, but given what the WANF website looks like, I think it's more than speculation at this point.
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Also: This is going to dovetail well with CBS having the rights to Big Ten Football this season. Big Ten on Saturday, NFL on Sunday ... maybe they can get some traction for the station with a slick-looking newscast.
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I think you guys are on to something about Atlanta. If you go to their website, not a single mention of CBS that I can see, at least not on the home page. https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com Titan TV (through their website) shows the ANF Logo and not CBS.
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1. I love talent with great/interesting voices. Everybody sounds like high school kids these days! Love interesting talent like Milton Lewis. Lively, entertaining--nothing wrong with that whatsoever. Why bore people to death with a bunch of milquetoast stiffs? It's the local news. It's not really as serious as some people pretend it should be. 2. Wow, a demonstration that actually looks like it could be organic. Can't remember the last time I saw something like that on TV. Now it's predominantly all rent-a-mobs. 3. With the Atlanta rumors, maybe they should have held on to some of those CW stations they previously divested. Like Providence, Columbus and Indianapolis. CBS News Providence? CBS News Indianapolis?
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Right now, the main advantage I see with free streaming is that the picture quality is generally better than OTA. The main OTA Channel may look good, but subchannels tend to be fuzzier. ATSC 3.0 is supposed to alleviate that. If that's what ends up happening, I don't really see what you need cable TV for. Just program the sub channels better and put everything up on there and make it easy for people.
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They can stream all they want, but they're never going to get me. And to be honest, I don't really miss anything they're not offering anymore enough to pay. Pretty stupid and shortsighted to give up the biggest platform they have. If anything, they should augment it with social media, sending texts, reminding people to go into their TV set to watch a show. I use the free streaming plenty, so I'm not just some old guy who refuses to try something new. I just think the free OTA platform is easiest and most convenient for people. I pay for the local newspaper and the Wall Street Journal. Anything else I have to pay for, I can live without.
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YIKES! So, at 5:00 p.m. out of 50,000 adults, 13,000 of them are age 25 to 54. That means 37,000 of them are old geezers (as consumer spenders, that is). At 6:00 p.m., out of 67,000 people, 17,000 are age 25 to 54. The remaining 50,000 are old geezers. Yikes again! -
Is the mother white or black? Her dialect is kind of black but she doesn't really look it at all. Just curious, no ill intent.
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Playing devil's advocate, maybe that's why they wanted to keep virtual channel 3 so badly in Las Vegas!
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Sinclair Broadcast Group - General Discussion
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Enough time has passed. Time for Fox 28 to become Fox 6, unless they plan on returning to 28 at some point. My theory was that they were trying to jam TBD down the throats of cable companies by forcing it as 28.1. Or maybe this all has to do with all the shuffling around that had to occur for 3.0 since both ABC and Fox are at 720p. Maybe it just made more sense bandwidth wise to have them on the WSYX signal. -
Gray has CBS, NBC and CW; Hubbard own ABC and My TV in that market so I don't know what the problem is. Forum owns the newspaper and the industry is dying. If anything, this would help the newspaper survive. By the way, I was watching Distro Tv just to see what they had. I saw WDIO on the choice of channels and decided to watch their news. Their main anchor guy is great. Middle-aged guy, obviously experienced in the market. He is larger-market material (larger than Duluth, that is). The sports kid on tonight was also pretty good. He's going to have a good career. The female sports director was out covering a dog race and she didn't seem too bad, either. The weather chick was okay, but she sounded like she was reading cue cards. She's been there a year and a half. You would think she'd be more natural by now. Also two black chicks that were reporters, talk about fish out of water. (In Duluth?) They both seemed nice enough, but they're both mush mouths. I hope they get better. They need to give all three of them elocution lessons. I always loved watching small market TV. Newscast overall was pretty good. Interesting enough and watchable.
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I think next Nexstar and Sinclair cooperate with each other in general. I know Nexstar runs a Sinclair station somewhere in Illinois I believe. And Nexstar has owned Antenna TV and this TV for now how long now? They are still both on Sinclair signals. They seem to have a you scratch my back I scratch yours relationship. -
I was watching Bounce last night and just curious about the logistics. Right on the money, "WSFJ-TV, LONDON, OHIO" appears at the top of the hour. I'm assuming that it is hubbed somewhere? Do they hub it here in Ohio or with the other ION stations? First of all, why isn't anybody smart enough to type "LONDON - COLUMBUS" into the computer? Second, I'm curious why they picked London as their city of license. It was Newark before, and that's about 50 miles away on the other side of Columbus. Also, they channel-share with an LPTV station. That adds another link in the chain that could possibly break. Who monitors that? Do they have to have a local presence anymore? Like an office or a studio somewhere in town? Do they have local public service requirements they have to meet anymore? And if they were smart, just as a marketing gimmick, they would bring back the WLWC call letters. I'm sure they'll just keep running this on autopilot, but if they ever do want to turn this into a real TV station, you might be able to get noticed in the market that way (like WWJ). WSFJ stands for "Winning Souls for Jesus." I wonder if anybody at Scripps even realizes that.
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One more thing. I have four TVs in my house and none of them are smart tvs. One has a Roku box, another one is a small kitchen TV, and two tube tvs, one in the office and one in my garage. Three of those four TVs are exclusively OTA.
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I don't know what OTA viewership is now percentage-wise. I know cable penetration is way down. I'm sure some of that has gone to OTT, but you would have to think that OTA viewership has also grown. Look at it this way, Detroit has something like 1.9 million households in its DMA, not counting Canada, Toledo, Flint, Cleveland and wherever Detroit signals go. The old number was 10% for OTA and it has to be a minimum of 20% these days. That's a market of almost 400,000 people. That's comparable to Charleston-Huntington and Omaha. Yes, I would say that's important.
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My take is that it's real estate and you have to make it easy for your customer to find you, just like any other consumer driven business. I realize that viewers aren't the real customers in media, but media still depends on attracting eyeballs.