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I think it's more of at least CBS Evening News & "CBS Mornings" bring in some revenue for the money losing news operation. It wouldn't make sense to keep operating CBS News without these programs. Streaming news is not profitable and CBS News is also failing in the streaming news ratings. I do think it's only a matter of time before CBS News is shut down entirely. When you are performing this bad the benefits to running a news operation just are not there. Local stations don't benefit from being part of CBS News. Most CBS O&O stations even the ones in last place would probably get better ratings airing local news in the CBS News time slots. As bad as Tony Dokoupil is, I bet most at CBS News would probably be relieved if he got the position. Bari Weiss wanted Bret Baier, who spent thanksgiving golfing with Trump. Could you imagine if an anchor of ABC, NBC, or CBS spent their days off golfing with the sitting president? Tony Dokoupil wont improve the ratings at all but at least he's not Lara Logan or Megyn Kelly or Kayleigh Mcenany or whatever far right wacko Bari Weiss has in mind.
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Exactly. CBS News is being used as a sacrifice. It just doesn't make sense for some far right MAGA viewer or anyone who watches FOX News Channel all day to switch to CBS News. The FNC audience is extremely loyal and CBS can try all they want but it just doesn't make any sense for this audience to seek out CBS unless FNC does something to push them away (and even then. Newsmax would be more likely to get these viewers than CBS). FNC is extremely well funded and has significant resources, and is extremely right wing and makes no effort to hide this, while CBS News is trying to cover up and downplay their shift to right wing propaganda. All Skydance is doing is hurting the few successful programs CBS News has. 60 Minutes is no longer credible. Local newscasts from CBS owned stations in left wing markets like LA, New York, Boston, Chicago, etc is no longer credible and just being associated with a right wing news operation is going to hurt local news ratings for every station CBS has in left wing markets. On top of this, they are making massive cuts to their news operations. If they really wanted to compete with a right wing 24/7 powerhouse they wouldn't have gutted their 24/7 streaming news service and cancelled multiple shows. They don't even want to spend the money to produce a live weekend morning newscast for the network.
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There are credible reports that CBS News is losing 50 million a year, so I think it's very possible they are actually bleeding money in the morning and evening time slots. On top of this, Paramount wants to buy WB Discovery which owns CNN. Like CBS News. CNN is also struggling in the ratings. Does Paramount really want to spend money producing 2 morning shows & 2 evening newscasts that compete directly against each other for last place? I think it would be really easy for them to justify shutting CBS News down if they end up owning CNN.
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I really don't see what value Gayle King actually brings to CBS News. Everything she has hosted, from her morning show on OWN to CBS This Morning to CBS Mornings to that awful primetime CNN show, has pulled in terrible ratings. Yes there was the R Kelly interview that went viral, it went viral because of R Kelly, not because of her. I remember watching a clip of her talking about the changes to on-air talent at CBS This Morning a few years ago and she said something along the lines of this is a business and if people are not watching the bosses need to make changes, I just found this such a delusional thing for her to say, the show is the last place morning show and she is the lead anchor, but her ego is so big she thinks everyone else is the problem. clearly replacing the other talent didn't improve ratings. so maybe she is part of the problem? Going to space with billionaires and posting friendly selfies with vile FOX opinion hosts probably doesn't help either. Even now, CBS News is turning into a right wing propaganda outlet, she knows her job is over due to her ridiculous high salary, but instead of calling out the destruction of CBS News, she is saying she is happy to be there.
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The left is not afraid of anything CBS News is doing. CBS News is not and has never been left wing, so CBS News shifting right to appease a far right dictator so Paramount can get away with buying WB Discovery is not a loss for the left. Your claim that "A right slant would differentiate itself from the competitors" ignores that FNC is already competing against CBS Evening News with a right wing "newscast". Even if they somehow manage to get Bret to leave Special Report, FNC is still the way more established ratings leader for right wing programming at 6:30pm ET. Not only would they have to compete against FNC, but there are also outlets like OAN and Newsmax producing right wing newscasts in this slot. The people currently watching the CBS Evening News are not far right, so this shift will just result with them losing the small audience they currently have while the right wing audience addicted to FNC continues to watch FNC at 6:30pm. On top of this, a right wing newscast will be a terrible lead-in / lead-out for local CBS stations in the top major markets which are very left wing. FOX doesn't air right wing news on its local stations because it knows this doesn't make sense from a business standpoint, Paramount knows CBS News going right is not going to help the audience levels of the CBS News programming, it's being done to help Paramount overall under an authoritarian government.
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I could see why the new far right CBS News would want a far right disgrace to anchor the CBS Evening News, but why would Baier ever consider this? He has a very high profile job at a very high rated and profitable network and would be giving that up for a failing newscast at what is basically a FOX News wannabe with no audience. The FNC audience is not going to follow him over to CBS, they are going to keep watching whatever FNC airs in the slot. No matter how much money CBS offers him now, that big salary is not going to last long term as CBS News is a ratings and financial disaster.
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KCBS 2/KCAL 9 - CBS Los Angeles News Thread
Reweivvt88 replied to Roadrunner's topic in Los Angeles News
If CBS was a strong brand in LA, they never would have went with the KCAL branding on both stations for almost 3 years. It's not ideal for CBS (or any major network) to not have the network brand featured in the LA market, it was done because the CBS brand was so weak and they felt the more popular KCAL brand would help get CBS out of last place. It's kind of funny they pick now of all times to go with the CBS brand when the CBS brand is probably the weakest it has ever been for LA viewers. CBS Mornings & CBS Evening News are hitting ratings lows, CBS News being run by MAGA extremists, layoffs and cost reductions on the way (although they found enough money to do a pointless rebrand) As one of the other posters above said, CBS is the worst when it comes constantly changing and confusing names. Rebranding CBS This Morning to CBS Mornings made no sense. Having both CBS News Mornings and CBS Mornings makes no sense. Even with this CBS LA rebrand they are doing CBS LA on CBS News Los Angeles and CBS LA on KCAL9. -
Usually when a TV station employee is wrongly detained by police or whatever the TV station puts out a statement criticizing the arrest, yet neither WGN or Nexstar have put out a statement criticizing the ICE terror group for arresting their employee. Meanwhile NewsNation's website is posting pro ICE propaganda stories about how "scared" the ICE terrorists are.
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While I agree most Americans don't want bipartisan journalism, CBS News isn't going far right because it's a good business strategy for CBS News, they are being forced to go far right because it's a good business decision for Paramount despite harming CBS News. They want to buy Warner Brothers Discovery and need Government approval. Look how rare it is for FNC programming to appear on the FOX network, it's not a good business decision for the FOX network or the FOX stations in markets like LA, NY, Chicago, etc. to air right wing news. Paramount is willing to destroy CBS News and turn it into right wing propaganda to stay in the good graces of a far right dictator. This is not CBS News trying to challenge FNC & Newsmax for the MAGA audience, it's Paramount turning CBS News into a right wing propaganda outlet knowing the result will be even further ratings declines for all CBS News programming.
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Sadly, now the same could be said for anything from CBS News. That being said, there wasn't much original reporting in this free beacon article, I used it because it put together reports from several media outlets (Puck, The Guardian, Zeteo). I'm not sure what's not credible in the article. It's a fact that CBS News now has a right wing editor in chief and ombudsman. Puck reported about the losses at CBS News, which are not surprising given the costs of running a news operation and the ratings performance of most CBS News programming.
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Watching MSNBC the last few days without the resources of NBC News has been a positive change with no decrease in quality or resources. Coverage of international news has not decreased. Instead of the live reports from NBC News journalists we get live reports from Sky News, Bloomberg & AP journalists in addition to the journalists who have joined MSNBC. On top of that we get an increase in live reporting from MSNBC journalists like Jacob Soboroff. Overall the network is more enjoyable to watch. Besides the downside of losing Steve Kornacki the split has been nothing but positive.
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'What the F—?': CBS News Staffers Melt Down Over New Boss Bari Weiss The article also mentions that CBS News is losing about $50 million dollars a year. CBS News has been far from perfect, I mean they employed far right "journalists" like Lara Logan & Sharyl Attkisson and decided to hire someone from FOX News as their president from 2011 - 2019, but with a far right MAGA editor in chief AND a far right ombudsman, they are not even trying to pretend to be objective. I honestly don't understand the point of keeping CBS News going anymore. It's not a public service if they are just going to push out propaganda. How can anyone trust anything they see reported on CBS News with these people in charge? CBS Evening News is already in a distant last place and losing more viewers year to date than the other network newscasts, they are only going to lose more viewers going full on MAGA. At the same time, they are never going to get the FNC viewers to switch over, and with the amount of cost cutting they are doing the Newsmax viewers are probably better off sticking with Newsmax. If the news org is losing 50 million a year, what's the point of keeping it going? I'm sure CBS stations in blue states are just thrilled that the half hour network newscast that brings in half the audience of ABC World News Tonight now has a far right editor in chief and far right ombudsman. As bad as it would look for Paramount to shut CBS News down, it looks equally as bad turning it into a right wing propaganda outlet, and at least shutting it down eliminates $50 million dollars in losses and allows the network to counter program against ABC & NBC.
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Sky News coverage to be featured on MSNBC as part of commercial agreement | Money News | Sky News "Sky News has reached a multi-year deal with one of the most influential US news networks, MSNBC, which will pay for the use of its cross-platform coverage. The channel's live broadcasts, TV packages and online journalism are to be used by MSNBC as part of a commercial agreement, the details of which were not disclosed. All Sky News' British and foreign TV coverage is included in the agreement, which will begin on 1 October, further bringing the reporting to a US audience. MSNBC will have no role in the commissioning of Sky coverage, and no MSNBC programming will be taken by Sky News, as part of the arrangement. MSNBC is building up its operations ahead of its planned spin-off from NBC News and parent company Comcast. The new, separated entity will be named Versant and be a public company with shares traded on a stock exchange." This is actually really smart. Sky News provides high quality international news coverage but at the same time is very unprofitable and given the fact that NBC News (and American media overall) puts almost no importance on international news (no other western country has more self obsessed news media than America) Comcast really hasn't been able utilize Sky News international coverage, now they are getting MS NOW to pay for this coverage, while at the same time, MS NOW benefits from having access to Sky News which puts it at a similar level to CNN and FOX for the rare times American media decides it needs to cover international news.
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That's the other thing. Most of the Sinclair stations are last place garbage stations, and they are choosing not to air a show that is getting huge ratings. Shareholders should care that the company owns stations like KOMO in left wing markets like Seattle that are facing local advertiser and viewer boycotts due to Sinclair refusing to allow its stations to air a show that is bringing in massive ratings. They are giving up increased ratings for not just the 11:35pm time slot but also the stations local late night and morning newscasts, and on top of that, viewers are boycotting the stations local newscasts and protesting outside the station. What I think Disney should do is start pulling ABC affiliates in markets where losing ABC would hurt Sinclair the most with little impact to ABC. For example, in Seattle they could pull ABC from KOMO and put ABC on Tegna's KONG. KOMO is one of Sinclair's strongest ABC stations, losing ABC would be a devastating blow to a station that is already facing major challenges as a Sinclair station in a left wing market. Yes I know Nexstar is trying to buy Tegna, but my point is there are markets where leaving Sinclair immediately is a viable option for ABC.
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The ONLY thing that makes this a business decision for these companies is the fact that the United States now has a corrupt authoritarian government. Nobody is reporting that advertisers were planning to pull their advertising. It's not a good business decision for Nexstar and Sinclair to anger ABC when their stations need ABC A LOT more than ABC needs them. It makes sense when you want to buy more stations than allowed and need the corrupt FCC to change the rules for you. It's not a good business decision for ABC to cancel a highly rated successful show that is impossible to replace. Jimmy Kimmel Live airing on ABC excluding Sinclair & Nexstar stations will rate higher and get more ad revenue than anything that replaces Jimmy Kimmel Live with 100% ABC network coverage. Disney is willing to ruin ABC's late night lineup and destroy the ABC brand because the alternative of the U.S. government coming after Disney's more profitable assets is a bigger risk. It also makes business sense for a broadcaster in Russia to remove a highly rated extremely popular profitable show that upsets the Russian government. Disney does business in many countries with evil authoritarian governments, and they don't broadcast shows that are critical of those Governments either, they have simply added America to the list of countries they operate where being critical of the government is not accepted.
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You are wrong about most stations still able to pre-empt programming whenever they want in their contracts. Network affiliate agreements have changed. There may be a few exceptions, but it's not the norm anymore, especially for a large group of weak underperforming stations like Sinclair. Most Sinclair stations are last place, with horrible quality newscasts. They are not a desirable station group to affiliate with. Even stations way more important than the ones owned by Sinclair and Nexstar who used to get away with airing programming at different times are now forced to air network programming at the correct time when their affiliate agreement is renewed. You are also making a ridiculous comparison. First, the examples you provided are not even true, WSVN rarely pre-empts FOX programming anymore, but pre-empting a rare sporting event once in awhile is not the same as pre-empting 5 hours of programming per week, and you are wrong about WHDH, WHDH never actually pre-empted The Jay Leno Show, they wanted to, but NBC wouldn't let them, so no NBC does not blame WHDH for Jay Leno failing, WHDH aired Jay Leno just like NBC wanted. Then there is the fact that "Local" affiliates didn't object to carrying Jimmy Kimmel Live. The "local" affiliates had nothing to do with the decision. Right wing conglomerates who own the stations made the decision. It was not made at the station level at all. There is nothing normal or justifiable about what Nexstar and Sinclair did. If Disney had a backbone they would pull their affiliations from both groups, but Disney is terrified of upsetting the far right authoritarian government and evil dictator in the white house.
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It's just interesting how Nexstar is so bold in their press release craving media attention about bringing down Jimmy Kimmel, but when it comes to a major left wing market the Nexstar station is claiming it's all on ABC. The people protesting outside Disney should also protest outside KTLA. Nexstar deserves just as much negative backlash as ABC and Disney do for this decision, and it's about time Nexstar stations start to suffer in left wing markets. LA's Very Own is owned by the MAGA far right
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This is never going to happen. The only ones who should be giving an apology is Disney, ABC, Nexstar, and Sinclair. Jimmy Kimmel Live's ratings surpassed NBC's The Tonight Show because he focused on politics. It might be annoying to MAGA, but MAGA has lots of other things to watch. The country is never going to unify, the right has gone way too extreme for that to ever happen.
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Of course, because there is no way to discuss this without making Disney and ABC look like pro-MAGA censors that only care about those on the far right. In the little coverage ABC News has given the story, they act like the FCC gave them no choice. While the FCC chairperson did make a threat towards ABC, no official action was taken. I think the U.S. government is no different than the government of Russia as they have proven rules and laws don't matter to them, but in this case they never actually took action against ABC, if ABC is going to try and blame the FCC for this, they should have let the process play out and see what the FCC actually ended up doing, self censoring yourself before the authoritarian government actually gets a chance to do anything just shows how weak and spineless Disney and ABC are. It also says to viewers that they shouldn't trust anything they see on ABC News because the network has flat out admitted that they are terrified of upsetting the far right authoritarian government. CBS News proved you can't trust anything they broadcast by hiring a far right MAGA ombudsman to police coverage and ABC isn't even willing to keep an entertainment comedy show on the air, and the ABC News program where they discuss :hot topics" isn't allowed to talk about it. As I said before. U.S. media is now no different than media in China or Russia. Australia's ABC News asks tough questions to Trump, because Australia still has credible media outlets, America's ABC News "journalists" know that if they ask any questions that upset Trump, Disney will fire them.
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It was kind of telling how KTLA opened its 10:00pm newscast tonight with the story that ABC had pulled Jimmy Kimmel Live while barely acknowledging their beloved owner Nexstar's major role. As Cher explained a misleading timeline of events she made no mention that Nexstar put out a press release attacking Jimmy Kimmel and saying they would refuse to air the show, saying only that "ABC made the decision after the FCC chairmen suggested they may take action against the network". While later on the report did mention that "Nexstar, KTLA's parent company, also announced that it would be pulling Kimmel from its ABC affiliates" this was the only mention of Nexstar's involvement. Why was KTLA so afraid to highlight the actions of their parent company? I mean this is the same network that relentlessly demonized the anti ICE protesters non stop back in June. Are they just now starting to realize that being part of Nexstar's MAGA empire is not going to pay off in Southern California?
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I don't see how that's possible. He refused to "apologize" (apologizing would be absurd as he has nothing to apologize for) and he has no reason to apologize in the future because he doesn't need the job. He has tons of money and an amazing family he loves to spend time with, there are tons of other things he can make money doing, and since he has no reason to apologize, bringing the show back would just put Disney in the exact same position they are now. Disney is terrified of upsetting trump and they know bringing the show back would just make him furious. The ABC sources talking to deadline seem out of touch with reality of what just happened here. It's not like ABC just cancelled tonight's taping and put Jimmy Kimmel Live in repeats for the rest of the week for the situation to die down, his show was yanked from the schedule immediately & indefinitely. When Megyn Kelly & Sharon Osborne made racist comments on Megyn Kelly Today & The Talk, NBC and CBS still aired repeats of both shows until they both departed the network. Disney's actual decisions don't imply this is temporary at all and it seems like the ABC sources are trying to make it seem like it will be up to Jimmy Kimmel when the reality is Disney & ABC caved to MAGA.
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I'm wondering if they will even mention the topic. The story is nowhere to be found on abcnews.com. It was the lead story on the hearst owned ABC station WCVB Boston's 11:00pm newscast, yet the story is missing entirely from ABC owned stations websites in LA and New York. I'm wondering if ABC even had any say in the matter or if it was just a order from Disney. The far right was not watching Jimmy Kimmel Live. Kimmel had been going after Trump and republicans for years, and I remember reading interview from years ago with him saying ABC told him to stop and he refused. He didn't need the show, ABC needed him, they kept signing new contracts giving him things like the entire summer off with his kids to get him to stay. By cancelling Jimmy Kimmel Live, they are hurting the ABC brand with its actual audience. It's not like ratings crashed and advertisers were pulling their ads, yes some far right station groups pulled the show but it still would have aired in major markets and on hulu. Now they have upset their audience, ruined any ratings success in late night, and will likely have to pay Jimmy Kimmel the rest of his contract. I don't see how upsetting your audience and paying someone millions to not be on TV is good for the ABC network, but Disney doesn't want Trump to come after its more important assets so they don't care if ABC is harmed in this.
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Millionaire only has 1 episode left for the season, currently set to air September 25. I have a feeling that by then the episode wont air, despite what ABC is saying now.
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I know they are saying it's pulled "indefinitely" and not cancelled but "indefinitely" always ends up being fired/cancelled, so they don't have to keep the show running. I expect they will likely just move Nightline to 11:35 and air something like repeats of The View or GMA3 at 12:05 and the hour will most likely get returned back to affiliates or replaced by repeats. It just wouldn't make financial sense to try and launch a new talk show in this slot, even if you ignore the dire economics of late night, there would be huge backlash and massive viewer rejection to any replacement talk show, even if they could manage to find a host who would be willing to damage their reputation as the person who replaced Kimmel. This is the network that airs old Disney movies on Sunday nights in primetime throughout the fall, I really don't think they will bother to spend money on fresh content at midnight knowing that angry viewers would just boycott it anyway.
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It's just insane what has happened to America's media companies. They are all a disgrace. I used to worry about the decline and cutbacks at traditional media because there is so much fake news online, but CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, Nexstar, etc. have all decided they want to appease the far right and the far right only. They are all terrified of the far right dictator in the white house and the FCC and worried about him harming their other assets. Our media companies are as credible as the media companies in China and Russia. Jimmy Kimmel doesn't need his ABC show. He talks about leaving all the time.
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