squiggy 10 Posted November 3, 2012 Author Share Posted November 3, 2012 What delays a graphics roll out once a station actually has the graphics in house? Upper management quibbling over cross-platform synergy optimization? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WXmanTim 88 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Last I heard, the new O&O gfx will debut a week from Monday. And you hit it right on the head...upper management (throughout the group) quibbling over *something* (I don't recall what our special projects producer/graphics guru said was the exact reason for the delay). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestTV 1174 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Last I heard, the new O&O gfx will debut a week from Monday. And you hit it right on the head...upper management (throughout the group) quibbling over *something* (I don't recall what our special projects producer/graphics guru said was the exact reason for the delay). Maybe they just look really bad and they're simply procrastinating their launch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WXmanTim 88 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I think they look pretty decent. There's nothing particularly groundbreaking about them, except they're doing away with OTS graphics completely in favor of "under the shoulder" graphics built into the lower 3rd. They're a bit obtrusive looking, which means they likely won't get used very often. At my shop, we don't use OTS that much anyway, so in that sense it's a wash. There are three color schemes (blue/gold...red/gold...red/blue) the stations can choose from, so not everyone will have the exact same "look" color wise any more. I really wish I could remember what the quibbling was about that led to the delay...in the grand scheme of things it was relatively minor like font size or something equally ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nynewslover 269 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Someone go to the Good Day NY Facebook page.. Look at the profile picture and the cover picture that has the anchors on it.. On both you can see it says FOX 5 in the background.. Is this what we can expect for other graphics as well.? Also on WNYW for Good Day NY they use more yellow/brighter graphics and with the PM news they use more blues.. Are the color schemes diff packages for each of the stations newscasts or will certain stations use the "brighter" colors all the time? One more thing lol is this a major graphics change or will it just be a minor update.. I assume they plan update the studios with the new bug as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1812 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I've seen the new graphics too. It's a major "update" (if updates can go backwards). I don't see any hint of them anywhere on the Good Day NY Facebook. The "gold" packages just have gold elements. It's not like the gold morning graphics the stations use now. Now that I think about it, they look kinda like what you'd expect to see in a Fantasy TV game. Prepare for disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess 1110 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Prepare for disappointment. I've been girding myself for disappointment since it was confirmed Fox was launching a new O&O look. If these look even remotely close to not-totally-horrible my expectations will be exceeded. Not to dump on the people that work at the stations, of course - it's just that I'm not that impressed with the Tampa hub's work as a whole. I think the Hurricane Sandy graphics in use on the stations are an example. They made sure that the animations had flashy, shiny effects and flying logos, but that logo looks ugly as hell. Granted, I don't think any of the stations/groups around here have a decent Sandy logo, but the Fox one just looks... eeeh. You can usually tell the difference between what's generated at Tampa and what's generated at WTXF here - the locally generated stuff looks better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5280 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Interesting... In a piece recapping the latest management changes at Chicago television stations, Lynne Marek of Crain’s Chicago Business reports that WFLD-Channel 32 is abandoning its “Fox Chicago” moniker and rebranding itself “Fox 32” — the name it used 20 years ago. Considering the irrelevance of the station’s UHF channel position in today’s digital world, it seems like a backward move. No doubt the reason for the change is to bring Chicago’s branding in line with the other Fox-owned outlets. “We’ve constantly got to change, and maybe our industry has been a little slow on that,” general manager Mike Renda tells Marek. You think? http://timeoutchicago.com/arts-culture/chicago-media-blog/15836071/election-night-webcast-to-bring-tribune-newsroom-alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1812 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Interesting... http://timeoutchicag...-newsroom-alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdcnow 14 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I think WBRC's stuff would make a great O&O package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4225 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Interesting... http://timeoutchicag...-newsroom-alive WFLD has had serious problems ever since their news department launched in 1989. Re-branding to Fox32 won't help. I like Mike Renda from his long stint at WJW, but he's basically fighting a losing battle here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4225 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I think WBRC's stuff would make a great O&O package. And that was before they implemented the Raycom standardized L3s. But they flipped them IN REVERSE in a pretty cool deconstruction. I love what WBRC has done art-wise. And they ditched the O&O package after going HD in late 2009 - the music is X-2 Package, Generation 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5280 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I think WBRC's stuff would make a great O&O package. 30 seconds for rebuttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess 1110 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 A good O&O look? Well, they'd be wise to take inspiration from this. This would work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc9W92rjaKc ...okay, kidding, kidding! I'm actually partial to something like this: If you tweak it enough - emphasize the red and white colors, change the font to something that's not Eurostile Bold Extended, and expand on that version of the theme - not the 2004 update - you'd have something that could potentially be pretty nice. It'd certainly be something different - right now, Fox's O&O graphics are about as close to the stereotype of American news graphics as you can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCAUTVNBC10 408 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 A good O&O look? Well, they'd be wise to take inspiration from this. This would work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc9W92rjaKc ...okay, kidding, kidding! I'm actually partial to something like this: If you tweak it enough - emphasize the red and white colors, change the font to something that's not Eurostile Bold Extended, and expand on that version of the theme - not the 2004 update - you'd have something that could potentially be pretty nice. It'd certainly be something different - right now, Fox's O&O graphics are about as close to the stereotype of American news graphics as you can get. Actually if you take the '05 graphics update, add some blues and pair it with the '02 theme you'd have the perfect look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4225 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 WJW's pre-O&O look wasn't half bad. Even as it used Eurostile throughout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nynewslover 269 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 So is the debut of these new graphics still set for Monday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningNews 1295 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I just saw a promo for the morning news on my local Fox station here in Houston. Guessing the new graphics debut tomorrow(Monday) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nynewslover 269 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 WNYW (FOX5 here in NY) has not updated as of this morning.. Anyone get the update yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennTV1983 756 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Is this what Tim was talking about? http://www.myfoxla.com/video?clipId=7946960&autoStart=true (Click any of the Studio11LA videos) BTW, WHBQ hasn't received the new graphics yet either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nynewslover 269 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Is this what Tim was talking about? http://www.myfoxla.com/video?clipId=7946960&autoStart=true (Click any of the Studio11LA videos) BTW, WHBQ hasn't received the new graphics yet either. Probably.. They aren't terrible.. They thing is MOST FOX O&Os have the current logo all over the studio.. I assume they'll replace it with the new logo.. Maybe they'll do it during the day today before the evening news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1812 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Is this what Tim was talking about? http://www.myfoxla.c...&autoStart=true (Click any of the Studio11LA videos) BTW, WHBQ hasn't received the new graphics yet either. Those are NOT the graphics I saw, but if these are the updated version then the lower third is a HUGE improvement over what was there before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess 1110 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Those are NOT the graphics I saw, but if these are the updated version then the lower third is a HUGE improvement over what was there before. They're not - it's a special package for their 5pm show. They have launched in La-La-Land, and all Fox stations will be launching through the day. (Most will have it for their 5pm or 10pm newscasts. A few will get it earlier.) Pics are here, since I made a new topic since the Fox O&Os, yes, finally got a new look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachL 1 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 As of the Noon newscast the graphics are live on WTVT in Tampa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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