MidwestTV 1232 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Evidently, CNN has its own font now. http://www.newscaststudio.com/2016/04/22/cnn-now-has-its-own-font/ Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1931 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Evidently, CNN has its own font now. http://www.newscaststudio.com/2016/04/22/cnn-now-has-its-own-font/ I like how NewscastStudio completely forgot that this isn't really new in the TV industry and instead focuses on companies and websites with their own fonts. For those that don't know, ABC has ABC Modern, which closely resembles Avant Garde. NBC has their customized version of DIN ("Arthouse DIN", I believe). It probably has to do with font licensing. ABC distributes ABC Modern to their affiliates because they own it and have the right to do that. If they used Avant Garde, they'd have to strike some licensing deal to distribute it, or force stations to buy it (who probably wouldn't and would then shove odd fonts into network-provided files). CNN likely has the right to put this on every computer they own without paying licensing fees to the foundry that made it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-149957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 It probably has to do with font licensing. How much are licenses for fonts and how often do stations really license the fonts if they are standard? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-149961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper550 291 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Why not use an open source font then? Roboto (the Android OS font) is a pretty distinct-looking font that has multiple weights/styles, and was built for high-resolution screens in mind. Then, however, it'd look like Google were running you. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-149962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2896 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 I like how NewscastStudio completely forgot that this isn't really new in the TV industry and instead focuses on companies and websites with their own fonts. For those that don't know, ABC has ABC Modern, which closely resembles Avant Garde. NBC has their customized version of DIN ("Arthouse DIN", I believe). Not to mention NBC actually has a custom Futura that accompanied its 1986 logo refresh. It has a pointed N and a double-V W and is most memorably used in the NBC News logo. As to this, I'm kind of ticked that my own discovery is being used without credit, but I hear that's how NewscastStudio rolls. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-149963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 As to this, I'm kind of ticked that my own discovery is being used without credit, but I hear that's how NewscastStudio rolls.And half of the news blogs. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-149964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 And half of the news blogs. ...and 1/3 of those monies to the IRS. Font licensing....amazing! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-149969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 ...and 1/3 of those monies to the IRS. Font licensing....amazing! Sign me up as a wingding. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-149970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestTV 1232 Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 I like how NewscastStudio completely forgot that this isn't really new in the TV industry and instead focuses on companies and websites with their own fonts. For those that don't know, ABC has ABC Modern, which closely resembles Avant Garde. NBC has their customized version of DIN ("Arthouse DIN", I believe). It probably has to do with font licensing. ABC distributes ABC Modern to their affiliates because they own it and have the right to do that. If they used Avant Garde, they'd have to strike some licensing deal to distribute it, or force stations to buy it (who probably wouldn't and would then shove odd fonts into network-provided files). CNN likely has the right to put this on every computer they own without paying licensing fees to the foundry that made it. Truthfully, I wasn't really aware of this. The only custom font to a network I was even remotely aware of was NBC with NBC News. At least it's not Century Gothic like what Fox News loves to use. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-149981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2896 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Truthfully, I wasn't really aware of this. The only custom font to a network I was even remotely aware of was NBC with NBC News. At least it's not Century Gothic like what Fox News loves to use. Those L3s are stock Futura, but FNC has always been a real laggard in general on design. They once used Avant Garde as well. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-150108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius22 122 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 and CBS and CW uses a modified version of Gotham. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-150159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey 865 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 CNN is back to using the old font for Super Tuesday graphics... I think they just didn't get around to updating those elements. Looks much nicer than the generic-looking CNN Sans. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-150199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jTrauscht 1 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I like how NewscastStudio completely forgot that this isn't really new in the TV industry and instead focuses on companies and websites with their own fonts. For those that don't know, ABC has ABC Modern, which closely resembles Avant Garde. NBC has their customized version of DIN ("Arthouse DIN", I believe). It probably has to do with font licensing. ABC distributes ABC Modern to their affiliates because they own it and have the right to do that. If they used Avant Garde, they'd have to strike some licensing deal to distribute it, or force stations to buy it (who probably wouldn't and would then shove odd fonts into network-provided files). CNN likely has the right to put this on every computer they own without paying licensing fees to the foundry that made it. You're exactly right. As a font designer, I wish more people would do this. Not just because I would like to be hired for such a project, but also because the issue of unlicensed distribution that you mentioned is a huge problem, and has been for years. It's like speeding. You know it's wrong, but everybody does it, so ... it can't be too bad right? Nope. It's as wrong as pirating a movie or a CD, and the people who get hurt by it don't make much to start with. Kudos to CNN, ABC and others for doing it the right way. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-150657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 You're exactly right. As a font designer, I wish more people would do this. Not just because I would like to be hired for such a project, but also because the issue of unlicensed distribution that you mentioned is a huge problem, and has been for years. It's like speeding. You know it's wrong, but everybody does it, so ... it can't be too bad right? Nope. It's as wrong as pirating a movie or a CD, and the people who get hurt by it don't make much to start with. Kudos to CNN, ABC and others for doing it the right way. What really pisses me off is all those counterfeit Chinese knock-off fonts invading our shores daily. Often I will see little children with school books and coloring books with the fake fonts and it makes me so angry. I hope our new President finally addresses this epic problem and comes together with other free nations in combating Illegal font trafficking. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-150978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jTrauscht 1 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 What really pisses me off is all those counterfeit Chinese knock-off fonts invading our shores daily. Often I will see little children with school books and coloring books with the fake fonts and it makes me so angry. I hope our new President finally addresses this epic problem and comes together with other free nations in combating Illegal font trafficking. Your sarcasm is showing. I was serious. What's your deal? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-150980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardek1995 200 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 and CBS and CW uses a modified version of Gotham.Who else uses Gotham? What really pisses me off is all those counterfeit Chinese knock-off fonts invading our shores daily. Often I will see little children with school books and coloring books with the fake fonts and it makes me so angry. I hope our new President finally addresses this epic problem and comes together with other free nations in combating Illegal font trafficking. Does font trafficing even exist? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-150981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Your sarcasm is showing. I was serious. What's your deal? No cause is too small...we shall destroy this deep dark secret together. Welcome to TVNT. I'm the sarcastic one of the bunch. Others here just consider me a lost cause. Don't take it too personal...I once made a guy cry when I told him all the ABC O&O's were being sold to Mattel. Just sidle up to the wet bar and enjoy....I got some good Gotham Purple Kush if you want a hit later. Do you know of any yummy marine mammles to munch on? I would take my Mother out for a bite...but I ate her during the great "Humpback shortage" of 1997. Kisses! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-150985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Who else uses Gotham? Does font trafficing even exist? The stories and pictures are too shocking for even this adult forum. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-150986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jTrauscht 1 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 No cause is too small...we shall destroy this deep dark secret together. Welcome to TVNT. I'm the sarcastic one of the bunch. Others here just consider me a lost cause. Don't take it too personal...I once made a guy cry when I told him all the ABC O&O's were being sold to Mattel. Just sidle up to the wet bar and enjoy....I got some good Gotham Purple Kush if you want a hit later. Do you know of any yummy marine mammles to munch on? I would take my Mother out for a bite...but I ate her during the great "Humpback shortage" of 1997. Kisses! Ahhh ... There's one in every bunch, eh? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-150994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jTrauscht 1 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Who else uses Gotham? Does font trafficing even exist? Fonts propagate easily because they are relatively simple code with no DRM attributes. When someone works on a project and hands it off, they typically hand off the fonts that they used along with everything else. The problem is that font licensing is usually only good for a limited number of computers, typically five. But those fonts often end up on dozens, if not hundreds of computers. As a good rule of thumb, if you don't personally know who purchased the font legitimately, it's probably not being used legitimately. (Unless, of course, it's installed with your system, but I'm not really talking about those. But even those fonts are protected by license agreements and cannot be redistributed.) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-150995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I worked for a Hearst station during the rollout of their current group look in 2012. The guy running the hub in Orlando actually purchased licenses for the font Effra for each station. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-150996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I worked for a Hearst station during the rollout of their current group look in 2012. The guy running the hub in Orlando actually purchased licenses for the font Effra for each station. Of course one of the biggest broadcasters is one of the worlds most accused "Font Diddlers"......; NBC!!! Yes fine folks...underneath those frilly colors is one of the most prolific font peddlers of all time. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/nbcu-sued-harry-potter-font-theft-lawsuit-351823 We must also stop the trafficking of lower cased fonts worldwide. This is unacceptable. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15098-cnn-sans/#findComment-150998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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