n925tv 143 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 "Chopper 8" was the lead in story on the top of the 5 on KFMB. They had a live reporter out there, who said the Chopper had a "rough landing on the runway" and then had a small fire which was quickly extinguished. I didn't see any fire damage from any of the photos, so who knows. After the report was done, Carlo made sure to read the disclaimer saying that although all of their logos are on it, it's a third party Chopper shared by all TV stations. He continued by saying the pilot and passenger on board are not KFMB employees, but they're friends and their thoughts go out to them. Pretty much everything that was stated in the online story was copy and pasted into the telepromter. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-231453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, n925tv said: "Chopper 8" was the lead in story on the top of the 5 on KFMB. They had a live reporter out there, who said the Chopper had a "rough landing on the runway" and then had a small fire which was quickly extinguished. I didn't see any fire damage from any of the photos, so who knows. After the report was done, Carlo made sure to read the disclaimer saying that although all of their logos are on it, it's a third party Chopper shared by all TV stations. He continued by saying the pilot and passenger on board are not KFMB employees, but they're friends and their thoughts go out to them. Pretty much everything that was stated in the online story was copy and pasted into the telepromter. I bet that copy had to be approved by the Tenga lawyers before it aired. "Not me...Not us".... "We just relay the video, we don't fly the thing..." Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-231456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVnews 4 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, A3N said: Chopper 8 was not owned nor operated by KFMB; It's operated by Welk Aviation. The chopper is part of a sharing agreement between Total Traffic and the local news stations, it would be up to them as to what they do next. I don't think we're at that point where you can really replace a news chopper with a drone or set of drones, just yet. Yes, the overhead expenses for Drones are substantially lower than a regular news chopper, but you have to factor all the logistics in trying to get that drone airborne. Also, they have to coordinate with first responders so as not to hinder their ability to do their jobs. +1 to this information here. To expand a bit further, KFMB has an agreement (which was renewed about a year ago) with Total Traffic. Since they pay the most out of the other stations, it's their branding on the side and they dictate where/when the chopper flies. Any video that's captured must be shared by the other stations who are party to the agreement. I heard TEGNA was considering ending the contract when they were doing a comprehensive review of the station's assets, but ultimately renewed the agreement with some modifications, such as eliminating Jennifer Markham's speaking role (she's still on board operating the camera). I'd imagine a temporary replacement will be brought in within a few days. Drones are certainly the future. I imagine one day the assignment desk will be able to launch and fly drones directly to scenes. However, until they're able to stay in the air long enough to cover long distances, liability is completely figured out, they're cost effective (to do the job of a chopper not the typical consumer model) and the FAA gives better guidance, choppers will remain for the near-term. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-231457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
n925tv 143 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 According to Deb Henke, it was Jo Eager that was inside the Chopper when it crashed and not Markham. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-231472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
n925tv 143 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Partial footage of the landing from KGTV: Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-231563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganNewsGraphicsJunkie 915 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I would hope that chopper would remain out of service... "Nah... throw some duct tape on it and it'll be good as new..." Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-231572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad 113 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Why does this thread even exist? I created another "slow death" thread that was going to have to do with WTOL, WUPW and KWES, but it got closed. San Diego is not as large of a market as New York, LA, Chicago, or Philly. Is there something special with this station that other TEGNA stations don't have, or what? TEGNA is ruining the station the way they ruined the other stations. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-231581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 I found this while watching some street films shot in San Diego during the 1970's. In the videos we see old billboards and bus ads for various TV and radio stations. This grab is from the 5200 block of University Ave around 1975. It's the Ch-8 bus ad , there is also an ad for the KFMB-8 morning show "Sun Up, With Mel Knoepp"" which ran after Captain Kangaroo. For the bus people...it's a 200 series (numbering) San Diego Transit Corporation GMC...the one with no air conditioning. I think it was route 9. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-232107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abric 178 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Don't be surprised if they bring that news title back to revamp their morning show as "Sun Up San Diego on News 8". Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-232108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw-804 192 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 On 8/29/2019 at 4:49 PM, Conrad said: Why does this thread even exist? I created another "slow death" thread that was going to have to do with WTOL, WUPW and KWES, but it got closed. San Diego is not as large of a market as New York, LA, Chicago, or Philly. Is there something special with this station that other TEGNA stations don't have, or what? TEGNA is ruining the station the way they ruined the other stations. I'm surprised @Weeters or one of the moderators didn't close this thread. Like @Weeters said on one of the threads (I don't remember which one), you never know what Tegna gonna do to the stations they acquire. Whether we like Tegna or not, we have to get used to its style of news. That's it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-232121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad 113 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 2 hours ago, tw-804 said: I'm surprised @Weeters or one of the moderators didn't close this thread. Like @Weeters said on one of the threads (I don't remember which one), you never know what Tegna gonna do to the stations they acquire. Whether we like Tegna or not, we have to get used to its style of news. That's it. You don't have to get used to TEGNA's style of news when there are better options. For example, in the Phoenix area why would you watch KPNX when KTVK, KNXV, and KSAZ have a better product these days? Frankly, in San Diego I would rather take the chance watching KNSD than KFMB or KGTV (Scripps' style of news these days is similar to, but not as bad as, TEGNA's). KNSD has been weak historically, but I expect them to benefit from the downfalls of KFMB and KGTV and stronger NBC ratings than a decade ago. KFMB (and WUSA, WWL, in the case of Scripps WTVF, etc.)'s current situation isn't helped by weaker CBS ratings than a decade ago. How are KSWB and KUSI these days? They were weak stations; is that still the case? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-232124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted September 8, 2019 Author Share Posted September 8, 2019 8 hours ago, Conrad said: How are KSWB and KUSI these days? They were weak stations; is that still the case? Weak how so.. In ratings? In profits? In Moral? Or in Megawatts? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-232132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 Chopper-8 is back... Joe Eger and her pilot were training on the back-up airship this morning (9-13-19) , however I still don't know what they are going to be flying in. Welk's N12YJ (green weenie) has been doing back-up duty for KTLA the last few days. The fact that they were "training" leads me to think it's a different ship then they have normally used for the back-up in the past. I'm gonna assume they plan to launch tonight for the evening shows. By then we should be able to pin a tail number in the "new" Chopper-8. Update 4:45pm Tested all afternoon, transmitter still missing some ENG site waypoints. problems with IFB reception. possible no flight this evening. Still no tail number ID'ed yet. Nothing on flightradar24.com We will see what happens... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-232488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiveNews 372 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 @Eat News Do you know what is going on with KTLAs Sky5? (N925TV). I knew Mark Kono sounded a little different while giving his report the other morning. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-232489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, FiveNews said: @Eat News Do you know what is going on with KTLAs Sky5? (N925TV). I knew Mark Kono sounded a little different while giving his report the other morning. I just know N925TV was not available and they were in N12YJ as of yesterday (9-12-19). Since N925TV has not been in any reported crashes one may assume it's down for maintenance. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-232492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfc513 235 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 On 9/7/2019 at 11:18 AM, abric said: Don't be surprised if they bring that news title back to revamp their morning show as "Sun Up San Diego on News 8". Don't be surprised if it uses the same graphics as WUSA's "Get Up DC!" Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-232570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 "Chopper-8" was up during the 11am show. Nothing shows on flightradar24 so still no clue on what they are flying. But I have a sinking feeling it's an R-44, and they are too embarrassed to squawk on flightradar24.com UPDATE: It's N661TV... It's an R-44 from Sky helicopters of Garland ,Texas Don't know if Welk bought it, or is just borrowing it from the Dallas area Sky Helicopters. I call it... Chopper 4+4=8 I'm told it's all white in color with no markings. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-232665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian 6 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 This is the replacement KFMB CBS Chopper 8 Helicopter in San Diego Yes, it's the R44 helicopter without ADS-B for now! N661TV https://www.scandiego.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1828 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-232667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian 6 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 KFMB Chopper 8 Anyone can track it on the WebTrax for KSAN coverage area. Just look for N661TV or the helicopter icon. https://webtrak.emsbk.com/san Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-232668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian 6 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Per the twitter post on September 18th, This Robinson helicopter could just be temporary. Just don't know how long! Deb Henke aka ChopperDeb Just temporary https://twitter.com/ChopperDeb/status/1174159287335079936 One photo show the inside of this Robinson R44 helicopter. Another photo of the rear of the outside of the helicopter doing the sunset. https://twitter.com/ChopperDeb/status/1174159287335079936 https://twitter.com/ChopperDeb/status/1174129730208927744 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-232799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotInTV 63 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 https://www.instagram.com/p/B3ndcoSHWjW/?igshid=1erl54lj7pyw9 KFMB LITERALLY steps on the logo of the station they stole the CW affiliation from and put out of business. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-234283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED2 144 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 So did Televisa just give everything they had left from CW6 to KFMB? Odd that KFMB would have that banner. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-234596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 In the same week the rumor of the radio side being sold, we have this tragedy... Former KFMB GM Paul Palmer has died. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/story/2019-10-30/man-76-who-died-in-del-mar-wrong-way-crash-identified Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-234901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotInTV 63 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 KFMB is trying a walking open for their 6AM show. What do you think? https://vimeo.com/372133260 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-235334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
who?cares 254 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I liked the pace of the show. But, I’m not a huge steadicam fan. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16271-kfmb-slow-death-thread/page/15/#findComment-235353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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