WWUpdate 1292 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 KCST' date=' 1983: https://archive.org/details/tobacco_hkw27a00 (Ponderosa One of my favorite pieces of production music! KNXV' date=' 1996: https://archive.org/details/tobacco_cdw27a00 (Look, that set's a spaceship!) I really like their "newsroom" shot with the anchors in the background: (Note that KNXV used ABC News L3s at the time. This was to remind viewers that KNXV was the new ABC affiliate in Phoenix. KPHO did the same with CBS News L3s for a while.) KNXV was a really innovative station at the time, but became far more conventional by 1997. Here's an interesting -- but long -- article from that year explaining how the station had changed: http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1997-04-03/news/chit-happens/ And this is how KNXV's station manager assessed the news operations of the five English-language Phoenix stations in 1997: http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1997-04-03/news/the-market-is-ripe-for-the-taking/full/ Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I just learned a lot about KNXV. Now I feel sad that we have a problem getting any good footage from their early years. I would love to see the first newscast they produced. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 WCPO with Newschannel, 1987. Can't find this in Archive but that's where it's from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwi_y7VJw_E WFLA with Power News, early 90s: https://archive.org/details/tobacco_zlx27a00 KMOL in 1989 with Spirit: https://archive.org/details/tobacco_cox27a00 WHEC 1988 with PNP: https://archive.org/details/tobacco_erw27a00 (at 3:00 there's an open for another program using PNP, this tape is completely mislabeled) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWUpdate 1292 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Here are a couple of YouTube oldies relevant to our discussion of mid-1990s Phoenix TV... ...two promos for KTVK's "Good Evening Arizona," the 90-minute evening newscast that launched after KTVK became an independent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc-hPw_YRzQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKXd27AFjWg Note how heavily KTVK promoted its link with CNN at this time (presumably to compensate for the loss ABC News programming). Live reports from CNN correspondents were a common feature on KTVK's newscasts. In fact, KTVK was among the nation's top users of satellite air time in the 1990s. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanewsguy 511 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 KPHO only had a 5min 10pm news when they became a CBS affiliate? When did they expand it to a full 35 minutes? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hathawaynson2 39 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 WCPO with Newschannel, 1987. Can't find this in Archive but that's where it's from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwi_y7VJw_E WFLA with Power News, early 90s: https://archive.org/details/tobacco_zlx27a00 KMOL in 1989 with Spirit: https://archive.org/details/tobacco_cox27a00 WHEC 1988 with PNP: https://archive.org/details/tobacco_erw27a00 (at 3:00 there's an open for another program using PNP, this tape is completely mislabeled) found another theme and this time it is from the archive: WIBW-TV had an program called "Take Five" back in the early 90's https://archive.org/details/tobacco_jmx27a00 I'm taking an suggestive guess that production music was involved at the time. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 KPHO only had a 5min 10pm news when they became a CBS affiliate? When did they expand it to a full 35 minutes? Either 1997 or 1998. More likely their 1998 relaunch which actually made them feel like a full news operation: Phoenix also boasts what is believed to be television's briefest local newscast-eight minutes. KPHO-TV Meredith Broadcasting's CBS affiliate, at 10 p.m. serves up four minutes of news, followed by a two-minute commercial break and then one minute each for weather and sports. Then it's off to Seinfeld at 10:08. The "Arizona 5-Minute News" still managed to place second in the ratings, however, once KNXV's challenge faded out. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw-804 192 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 WWBT's "The Scene Tonight" (from 1977!) with Charles Fishburne. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL5xGtJxzAw I remember watching him on WTVR in the '90s and now he's on WCVE-FM. Speaking of WCVE, here's a sign on from WCVE-TV (audio only) from 1972: A weather report from 1984 from WXEX (now WRIC; their studios were in Petersburg at the time): WHFV (defunct TV station in Fredericksburg, VA; was affiliated with NBC) sign-off from 1973, audio only: WVIR (Charlottesville, VA) 1973 sign-off, audio only: Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWUpdate 1292 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I stumbled upon an old demo reel for former KTVK anchor Liz Habib, who left the station in 2003 -- it gives you some idea of what KTVK looked like during the first decade of its existence as an independent station: Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ntropolis 596 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 WVEC 11pm newscast from February 6, 1996... 18 years ago today: Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWUpdate 1292 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 WVEC 11pm newscast from February 6, 1996... 18 years ago today: And here's the 8 p.m. news from Antenne 2 in France on today's date 36 years ago: (The set reminds me a bit of the one used by KABC at the time.) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Once upon a time, a guy worked at WEAR and recorded some opens: (close only, This Week with David Brinkley; newscast still known as "Gulf Coast News 3") (WBRZ 1985 Theme!) (new cut of WBRZ '85, 3 in the Morning) (WBRZ 1985 Theme, really late) (new cut of the Hummingbird custom theme; station moved into new building) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTVNews 1377 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 KTBC 5 & 10PM Talent Open (1989) - WPLG Eyewitness News Nightbeat (8/14/98) - WPLG Eyewitness News Nightbeat (3/25/96) - WPLG Eyewitness News at 6PM (11/30/90) - WCIX (WFOR) Action News at 11PM (4/28/95) - WCIX (WFOR) Action News at 11PM (11/26/89) - WTVJ Channel 4 News Nightcast (10/13/90) - WTVJ Channel 4 News Nightcast (11/30/90) - You'll find all full newscast and game show episodes on my YT site: http://www.youtube.com/user/1TexasTV/ Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 A WBNG 1989 news break—a rare example of a Gateway station not using the Action News Theme. Instead, it's the WJSU 1985 1988 Theme, a known CBS affiliate package based around the campaign of "Television You Can Feel" and forever incorrectly dated in the NMSA: Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 81 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Hey Dontryl, I already PMed you about this, but: Would you please repost the KTBC 1983 intro that has the KDFW 1979 theme? KTBC's use of that theme still isn't listed on NMSA, and if we could have an audio sample again... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTVNews 1377 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Hey Dontryl, I already PMed you about this, but: Would you please repost the KTBC 1983 intro that has the KDFW 1979 theme? KTBC's use of that theme still isn't listed on NMSA, and if we could have an audio sample again... You people got your wish, and here it is. KTBC 10pm Open (1983). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 You people got your wish, and here it is. KTBC 10pm Open (1983). Even the set is identical to WHTM! I wonder if KTVI, WSTM and WETM used this package (it's highly likely). According to the NMSA WSTM didn't use The News Image until 1984. Of course, WETM would be a much harder find. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 81 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 A commenter on one of the WVTM clips on Sean McPhail's old account recalled KTVI using the theme. (Since that account was deleted, I can't verify.) There is no pre-84 WSTM newscast footage online (save for a few clean "master" versions of individual reports), but there is a promo for Syracuse Bowls with the early-80s Times-Mirror logo design in evidence, so I'd bet they used the theme too. Are KDFW 1979 and KHOU-WISH 1981 the only early examples of packages which were not only station-group-wide, but station-group-*exclusive*? (Network O&Os/affiliates don't count.) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 By the mid-80s, you could certainly say that of the Action News Theme persisting on the Gateway stations (WTAJ, WBNG, WOWK and WLYH) into the 90s. In fact WTAJ commissioned its own version of the theme. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 81 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Yes, but it originated on WFIL, which was not Gateway. "KDFW 1979" seems to have been exclusive to the Times-Mirror group, and "KHOU-WISH 1981" seems to have been exclusive to the Corinthian group. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Yes, but it originated on WFIL, which was not Gateway. "KDFW 1979" seems to have been exclusive to the Times-Mirror group, and "KHOU-WISH 1981" seems to have been exclusive to the Corinthian group. I know that—I was just pointing out that it had kinda gotten that way by the mid-80s. (The theme and the opens did not age well at all and stuck out like sore thumbs. In the mid-90s someone at Gateway came to their senses and began modernizing their stations' image.) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
10Viewer 334 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 I know that—I was just pointing out that it had kinda gotten that way by the mid-80s. (The theme and the opens did not age well at all and stuck out like sore thumbs. In the mid-90s someone at Gateway came to their senses and began modernizing their stations' image.) WOWK had adopted a new theme by 1993, if not earlier. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-97911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWUpdate 1292 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 WFLD, Chicago; Newscope with blizzard coverage, 1967: Part 2: Part 3: Part 4: Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-98173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWUpdate 1292 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 KGW, Portland, Oregon; anchored by Ann Curry, 1984: KOIN, Portland, Oregon; noon news, 1989: Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-98195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToriElectra 292 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 That KOIN open uses a cut very similar to the cut used by WGHP in the late 80's. (Me and Raimie were discussing it last night in the shoutbox.) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/869-classic-video-thread-pre-2008/page/78/#findComment-98215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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