danderson500 29 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 People on Facebook have been bashing the local stations in Colorado for staying with football when they should have been covering the shooting. is that a good thing to do since it was a active shooter scenario Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianpr3 178 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 apparently someone scolded denver 7 and the person running the facebook posted this "hat isn't my decision, it is a byproduct of contracts and resources. I'm in contact with additional managers now and I'm certain you'll find everything about this situation that you need to know if you check this link:http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/colorado-springs-area/active-shooter-reported-at-planned-parenthood-in-colorado-springs " Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1916 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 If you don't break in, people will complain. If you do break in... a lot more people will complain. It's a lose/lose scenario. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Since the Colorado shooting was something that warranted breaking news, the should have at least broken in and did a split-screen. KSNV did this during a NASCAR race months ago. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 941 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Since the Colorado shooting was something that warranted breaking news, the should have at least broken in and did a split-screen. KSNV did this during a NASCAR race months ago. That's a question of what your graphics and technology will support.. I think split screens like that are rather uncommon... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Before you can do break-ins and split screens...you have to get permission. Sometimes the people in the chain of command are not quickly available to make those decisions. Most stations will not allow a News Director to step all over required network programs. Others will need to pow-wow first...unless the network decides to go balls to the wall. And some stations give the ND 100% approval for complete override of whatever is on the air (usually weather only)....just a few. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oklahomanewsman 210 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 It's a lose/lose scenario and anytime some station does something people will take to social media to complain about it. Probably doing a split-screen would work but I'm not sure if it'll make people on social media happy or not. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I think this would be an occasion to interrupt programming in the local market. In my view anytime there's an active threat to public safety whether it's weather or an active shooter situation stations should be on the air advising people to what to do and how to avoid. How close is Colorado Springs to other markets? If it's a significant distance then just let the locals handle it. If it's something close like the Baltimore / Washington (roughly 40 miles between the main transmitters for each market) then I could understand a local station out of market covering it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius22 122 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 KCRA had to cut days of our lives off into a severe weather report once. they should've kept the show on and put the ticker on it instead. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Block 1566 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 How close is Colorado Springs to other markets? If it's a significant distance then just let the locals handle it. If it's something close like the Baltimore / Washington (roughly 40 miles between the main transmitters for each market) then I could understand a local station out of market covering it. Colorado Springs is about 90 minutes from Denver. Monument Hill prevents each market's signals from crossing into one another, but it's pretty easy to get Denver TV from almost anywhere in the state. There's not a lot of significant population in the fringes of their viewing areas, but major stories like this would be of interest to people in Denver. The more appalling thing in the coverage of this story, though, is that the reputable Colorado Springs Gazette was reporting on scanner traffic on Twitter without verifying with a PIO what they heard, and they were defending their decision to do so. I was shocked to see that. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1916 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 KCRA had to cut days of our lives off into a severe weather report once. they should've kept the show on and put the ticker on it instead. Stations are required by the FCC to visually and aurally communicate certain severe weather warnings along with a specific set of safety tips. If they just put up a ticker, they'd have to air the garbage-sounding robot EAS voice as well. That's why some stations are less hesitant to cut in for weather: A meteorologist is probably able to say the entire script quicker than the EAS robot can and it sounds much better. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathannah 2428 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 The more appalling thing in the coverage of this story, though, is that the reputable Colorado Springs Gazette was reporting on scanner traffic on Twitter without verifying with a PIO what they heard, and they were defending their decision to do so. I was shocked to see that. What appalled me the most was trying to grab KOA in Denver on radio via the iHeart app confident they'd have coverage...instead it was Hannity on tape and later just grabbing ABC News Radio off the wire. We get all these stations that promote 'breaking news when it happens' in taglines but they never seem to until after the call-in regulars get their fringe theories in or just throw it to the network and move on. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 941 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 What appalled me the most was trying to grab KOA in Denver on radio via the iHeart app confident they'd have coverage...instead it was Hannity on tape and later just grabbing ABC News Radio off the wire. We get all these stations that promote 'breaking news when it happens' in taglines but they never seem to until after the call-in regulars get their fringe theories in or just throw it to the network and move on. There was probably nobody at the station to cut to... There isn't a worse time then a holiday weekend to have an emergency... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWA_TV_guy 151 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I feel that when the information is lifesaving and warrants a cut-in or wall-to-wall coverage, then so be it. The Colorado Springs shooting was a major news story and impacted many lives. Something less dramatic, such as a severe thunderstorm warning or a bank robbery with an unarmed suspect holding numerous people hostage, would allow for a ticker or a brief cut-in during a commercial break. The entire severe weather discussion can be taken way out of line. Many stations have a strict policy when it comes to severe weather. A tornado warning usually has a station on air for the duration of the warning unless there's firm evidence of a weakening storm to the point where the meteorologist(s) put normal programming back on the air with the automatic ticker/map. There are instances where a severe thunderstorm warning can quickly turn into a tornado warning, therefore requiring the station to remain on with weather coverage. Smaller markets usually just let a ticker do the job for any event whether it be news or weather as most are working with a small amount of staff (especially on weekends). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRob 937 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 You can't please everyone. Colorado Springs stations were right to break into programming. Play-by-play of scanner traffic is a different topic, but I saw a lot of it on Twitter yesterday. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 You can't please everyone. Colorado Springs stations were right to break into programming. Play-by-play of scanner traffic is a different topic, but I saw a lot of it on Twitter yesterday. Really sometimes it just comes down to how "sexy" the story really is. Yes... I said sexy. As far as repeating what is heard on a scanner??? Sorry but that ship sailed long ago. The newsgathering world decides that...not the scanner enthusiast. PIO's often lie, and newsgathering IS a competition. Scanner traffic IS first hand info,and some should... and should not be shared. But that is up to the news directors and EP's to decide...NOT the police. If the cops don't like it then they can encrypt traffic... If the public wants UN-encrypted communications they can vote for, and demand clear communications. You don't get it both ways...but I will admit that very few ND's are capable of of making that decision in a breaking and very fluid situation. When you are forced to make the decision about scanner traffic you will see that every situation is different...and you only have one shot at the right decision. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius22 122 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Stations are required by the FCC to visually and aurally communicate certain severe weather warnings along with a specific set of safety tips. If they just put up a ticker, they'd have to air the garbage-sounding robot EAS voice as well. That's why some stations are less hesitant to cut in for weather: A meteorologist is probably able to say the entire script quicker than the EAS robot can and it sounds much better. That's how KOVR Does it. KXTV does a "This is home" Sounder followed by a ticker and a Doppler radar in the background and on top of that an EAS usually happens in between or during the ellen show. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jero23 105 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 That's how KOVR Does it. KXTV does a "This is home" Sounder followed by a ticker and a Doppler radar in the background and on top of that an EAS usually happens in between or during the ellen show. It depends if they should or shouldn't break in for severe weather. If it is a Tornado Warning then yes it does make sense to break in regardless of the market, but it is just a Severe Thunderstorm Warning then it was overkill. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danderson500 29 Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 this might be a good question but do the anchors stay in the studio until the local news starts at 11? I was thinking back in the 80s would Jennings stay in late in case something big broke like during the network movie or China Beach or Monday Night Football? just asking Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianpr3 178 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 this might be a good question but do the anchors stay in the studio until the local news starts at 11? I was thinking back in the 80s would Jennings stay in late in case something big broke like during the network movie or China Beach or Monday Night Football? just asking when Bob Simon died Scott Pelley was at a broadway play with his wife so they had to find him pull him out and have him rush back with a company car Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danderson500 29 Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 ABC would usually have Ted Koppel on standby in Washington just in case. Same thing with Brit Hume on Saturdays or even Tom Jarrell on Sundays(those guys did the news briefs so they would be there already.) this was back in the 80s and early 90s Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14806-when-should-a-station-break-inre-colorado-shooting/#findComment-140558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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