east-tx-tv 121 Posted August 29, 2016 Posted August 29, 2016 Sorry, but I don't get the need for a 10-day forecast. By the time you are at the 9th or 10th day, you've likely forgotten what the forecast called for 9 or 10 days ago. There are already 10-day forecasts in the DFW market on KXAS, WFAA, KTVT, and KXTX. This is as dumb as 4am (or earlier?) starts for local morning news shows.
24994J 5657 Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 Sorry, but I don't get the need for a 10-day forecast. By the time you are at the 9th or 10th day, you've likely forgotten what the forecast called for 9 or 10 days ago. There are already 10-day forecasts in the DFW market on KXAS, WFAA, KTVT, and KXTX. This is as dumb as 4am (or earlier?) starts for local morning news shows. Dumber than 4am. And I hate to break it to you, but most of NBC/Telemundo's O&O's have adopted the 10-day. I said it in another thread, and I'll merely paraphrase, but days 1-3 are always a solid bet. Days 4 and 5 are usually on-par, and 6 and 7 are merely suggestions. Anything beyond that is an educated guess. My market's top station does an extended forecast I like, though. After the Sunday night 7-day, the meteorologist gives an 8-14 day outlook, illustrating the general temperature pattern in relation to normal. He occasionally throws in the potential for precip, but never assigns anything to any day. It gives a nice, possibly even helpful hint of what's beyond the horizon.
ns8401 961 Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 Dumber than 4am. And I hate to break it to you, but most of NBC/Telemundo's O&O's have adopted the 10-day. I said it in another thread, and I'll merely paraphrase, but days 1-3 are always a solid bet. Days 4 and 5 are usually on-par, and 6 and 7 are merely suggestions. Anything beyond that is an educated guess. My market's top station does an extended forecast I like, though. After the Sunday night 7-day, the meteorologist gives an 8-14 day outlook, illustrating the general temperature pattern in relation to normal. He occasionally throws in the potential for precip, but never assigns anything to any day. It gives a nice, possibly even helpful hint of what's beyond the horizon. You know that's rip and read from NWS but cleaned up right?
24994J 5657 Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 You know that's rip and read from NWS but cleaned up right? Yes I do, but if someone wants to go beyond 7 days, that's a safe way to go about it.
ns8401 961 Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 Yes I do, but if someone wants to go beyond 7 days, that's a safe way to go about it. Yes it is... Ours are always a screen shot of said NWS chart.
Eat News 4745 Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 I'm confused, Does the NWS offer a specific 10day forecast for most areas? Or is it more a trend/ model / long term projection? Is the 10 day a TV only thing? I think they(10 day) are completely stupid on the west coast, but I can see usefulness once patterns are able to "set-up" across the country in a predictable fashion. But is my local WX Bunny making stuff up....or is she rippin and readin? (let me try again) Is the experienced TV met relying on a real nws prediction, or is he/she (trans?) just taking a long shot knowing that there is no accountability in WX anyway.
24994J 5657 Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 I'm confused, Does the NWS offer a specific 10day forecast for most areas? Or is it more a trend/ model / long term projection? Is the 10 day a TV only thing? I think they(10 day) are completely stupid on the west coast, but I can see usefulness once patterns are able to "set-up" across the country in a predictable fashion. But is my local WX Bunny making stuff up....or is she rippin and readin? (let me try again) Is the experienced TV met relying on a real nws prediction, or is he/she (trans?) just taking a long shot knowing that there is no accountability in WX anyway. Some computer models go out that far, but I can't imagine that many, if any of these mets are doing the work to refine those numbers, when there are 7 more important days to plan for before that.
IndyNewsOpens 83 Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 I know WISH does 8 day forecasts, but that's because mostly they're playing on the fact they're on channel 8. Anything past 7 is gonna be inaccurate in my opinion, unless like said above, you've got a strong computer model from the NWS, or whatever IBM's supercomputer is called that I read about that they wanted to use for Weather.com (Watson, I think?).
mardek1995 200 Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 KXTV does 10 day forecasts because they play off the fact that they're on channel 10, not sure about NBC 10 however.
WCAUTVNBC10 415 Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 KXTV does 10 day forecasts because they play off the fact that they're on channel 10, not sure about NBC 10 however. Wut?
ns8401 961 Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 I'm confused, Does the NWS offer a specific 10day forecast for most areas? Or is it more a trend/ model / long term projection? Is the 10 day a TV only thing? I think they(10 day) are completely stupid on the west coast, but I can see usefulness once patterns are able to "set-up" across the country in a predictable fashion. But is my local WX Bunny making stuff up....or is she rippin and readin? (let me try again) Is the experienced TV met relying on a real nws prediction, or is he/she (trans?) just taking a long shot knowing that there is no accountability in WX anyway. The NWS products go out 7 days and then offer a 7-14 and 14-21 day outlook beyond that.
TriangleTriadMediaNews 267 Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 This is as dumb as 4am (or earlier?) starts for local morning news shows. Do any local news outlets actually start at 3:30am? (not counting any special situations like tropical storm or winter WX coverage)
Eat News 4745 Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 Some computer models go out that far, but I can't imagine that many, if any of these mets are doing the work to refine those numbers, when there are 7 more important days to plan for before that. That makes sense to me ...thanks
Eat News 4745 Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 The NWS products go out 7 days and then offer a 7-14 and 14-21 day outlook beyond that. ok... Well I guess they have to offer up something for us taxpayers. Thanks for the answer.
PTVNews 197 Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 A few months ago, KPTV started showing a 12 day trend forecast. They don't use it every day...only when there is a pretty sure trend. The chief meteorologist posted about the thought process behind it on his weather blog.
ns8401 961 Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 A few months ago, KPTV started showing a 12 day trend forecast. They don't use it every day...only when there is a pretty sure trend. The chief meteorologist posted about the thought process behind it on his weather blog. WXYZ does a "Second 7 on 7" to visualize the trend. But only for extreme heat or cold on the horizon to give an idea to viewers what seems to be coming soon.
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