AJClementeFan69 477 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Okay...we have oldest graphics/music still in use...how about sets? I guess this is up for debate with refreshes and stuff...I guess I'll say to qualify it can still have had duratran refreshes/additions here and there but still has to be fundamentally the same (i.e. same desk/etc.) Does WJZ count? The desk has changed but I feel like the overall set hasn't changed enough since 1998. Would think that has to be one of the oldest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id=8Ngumw2qCfI;t=56 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Block 1566 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 KGW's set is definitely up there. Not sure when it debuted, but I think it was sometime in the early 2000s. Sure, they updated it last year with some big video walls and better lighting, but the desks and overall flavor are the same. KOVR's set is pretty old too. I think the desk, backdrops, plasmas, and RP wall are all about ten years old, but the newsroom surrounding it looks the same as it did during the Sinclair days. Of the big markets, WJZ probably does take the cake for the oldest, but there are probably plenty of dinosaurs in the small markets out there too. KMTR's set easily has to be of the same vintage with no updates. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-165977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlnews2 591 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 WDEF's is from the late 90s I think Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-165979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToriElectra 292 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 WNYW's has been the same for about a decade- notice how faded the logo on the front of the desk is! And those blurry walls with the monitors behind them- I'm pretty sure those monitors date back to the 2002-era set. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-165982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmykun 13 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 WKAQ's is a decade old now. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 1002 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 KUSI's set is 20+ years old. XETV's set is 18-ish? years old. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5577 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 For a major market, WGN stands out with their set that's a dozen years old. Unlike others on this list, it has gone without any noticeable updates, save for a few monitor carts getting replaced and a large, round standalone screen getting removed many years ago. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHTVnews 21 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 WKAQ's is a decade old now. They updated some parts of the set last year and I think that last week they added a touch screen monitor in one of their standup areas, but the set still looks very outdated. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexTVandRadio 418 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 WDEF's is from the late 90s I think One word. Morris. Although they did get a slight refresh last year. WLEX's set turns 10 years old this April since first HD newscast April 2007. Still looks decent. New desk about 5 years ago. WTVQ's set turns 9 this October. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoadStar 364 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I'd bet WISN has to be up there. It got a paste-on refresh in 2011, but the majority of the set dates back to at least 2001. (2001 was the earliest video I could find that clearly showed the set, and they were still on a newsroom set in 1999.) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronQ 282 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 WCCB still got their set since 2008 when they were the FOX station in Charlotte. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWA_TV_guy 151 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I'd bet WISN has to be up there. It got a paste-on refresh in 2011, but the majority of the set dates back to at least 2001. (2001 was the earliest video I could find that clearly showed the set, and they were still on a newsroom set in 1999.) same for WAPT... Their weather center and newsdesk is new, but the rest of the set is the original from 2001-2002. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennTV1983 804 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 WREG's newsroom set has been in continual use for about 20 years now. It did undergo an extensive remodel back in 2011 (keeping most of the bones in place) and most recently underwent a series of updates over the last few months that included switching out the duratrans with new ones to match their current on-air look, enlarging the existing news desk (which is only five years old), and adding a new stand up area. WMC-TV's current set, meanwhile, is right at the decade mark in terms of age, and there appears to be no indication of them receiving a new one in the near term (they only change sets at least once every 9-10 years). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 same for WAPT... Their weather center and newsdesk is new, but the rest of the set is the original from 2001-2002. Hearst seems good for treating their well performing stations well but if not don't expect much - look at how many aren't HD. That being said they're apparently good to work for, are good at rolling out graphics/Weather ability across their portfolio. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaeKFiiNCYw Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCA TK47 277 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Okay...we have oldest graphics/music still in use...how about sets? I guess this is up for debate with refreshes and stuff...I guess I'll say to qualify it can still have had duratran refreshes/additions here and there but still has to be fundamentally the same (i.e. same desk/etc.) Does WJZ count? The desk has changed but I feel like the overall set hasn't changed enough since 1998. Would think that has to be one of the oldest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id=8Ngumw2qCfI;t=56 I'm pretty sure WJZ's set is so old that you'd find dead rodents buried in the walls of it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djlynch 56 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 KTBC has a habit of updating one area at a time, so it's hard to say exactly what counts as a new set. Their last update of the Good Day Austin couch area removed a set of stairs and covered over a brick wall that had been included in the set in one form or another since 1996, but the main desk area and weather center are from 2005. KVUE has been on their set since 2001, with a refresh that included a new desk and a new weather center some time around 2008. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ntropolis 596 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 It's been a few years, but it's worth mentioning... when WVEC redid their set in 2011, it replaced a set that debuted in 1996... but the "guts" of the set dated back to 1990! https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=222064591186526 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewsMaster 226 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I'd bet WISN has to be up there. It got a paste-on refresh in 2011, but the majority of the set dates back to at least 2001. (2001 was the earliest video I could find that clearly showed the set, and they were still on a newsroom set in 1999.) same for WAPT... Their weather center and newsdesk is new, but the rest of the set is the original from 2001-2002. Ditto with WMUR. I don't think their set is as old as WISN or WAPT, but it's pretty close. They also got a refresh in 2011 when they went HD and a smaller refresh in 2014 with the new graphics and logo. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKA 38 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 KXLY has had the same set for at least a dozen years. KREM updated theirs a few months ago, but it doesn't look much different. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3951 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 WJW's is about to hit the decade mark. They tend to keep sets for around 11 years or so as evidenced by their prior set (1996-2007) and the one before (1985-1996). Rumblings are that they are due for a major overhaul, but I'll believe it when I see it. Who did WJZ's set? It looks very much like the 1996-era WJW set (and one that would appear 2 years later on WEWS). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 [QUOTE="tyrannical bastard, post: 172114, member: 201"]WJW's is about to hit the decade mark. They tend to keep sets for around 11 years or so as evidenced by their prior set (1996-2007) and the one before (1985-1996). Rumblings are that they are due for a major overhaul, but I'll believe it when I see it. Who did WJZ's set? It looks very much like the 1996-era WJW set (and one that would appear 2 years later on WEWS).[/QUOTE] According to @Charles it was done by a firm called pencilogic. [quote name='Charles']I believe it was a firm called pencilogic. They designed KMGH's 1998 set, which was pretty similar to WJZ's set, just with a mountain lodge feel: [IMG]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5587/14510483890_2739a7d0c9_o.jpg[/IMG] If my memory is correct, pencilogic was based in Denver, as they did a lot of Denver sets — KWGN's 2000 multiset, KCNC's faux-control room mountain set, and the mini weather, news, and tech sets in KUSA's newsroom. A mirror of [URL='http://www.culturalfarming.com/pencilogic/clients.html']their old website here[/URL] has a client list which shows, among others, WJZ, WBZ, WBBM, and KPIX. I'm pretty sure WCCO's late 90s/early 2000s set was a Devlin creation, though seeing that pencilogic and Devlin were based in the same state, and many pencilogic clients went on to beome Devlin clients, there's probably some sort of connection there.[/QUOTE] Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabnis74 52 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Do you think a new set is in the works for WJZ? That set turning 19 this year. I bet CBS will demand them to change their look pretty soon. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3951 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 The first generation of Sinclair sets are coming up on 9 years. WBFF, WLOS, WSYX/WTTE and WEAR. I wonder how long Sinclair will take to upgrade them? Before these sets, I never expected them to invest in their stations AT ALL. They kept sets that were ancient when they bought their respective stations and did little. I believe WEAR's base set dated all the way back to when they moved into their new building.....IN 1994! WCHS's lasted all the way until 2012 and likely debuted in the mid to late 1990s. We'll see how much mileage these sets will get....they could have a few more years left on them. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3951 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 [quote name='rkolsen']According to @Charles it was done by a firm called pencilogic.[/QUOTE] WGN's prior set(s) were done by them as well. The wood paneling and blue plastic was the dead giveaway. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClementeFan69 477 Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 KXLY has had the same set for at least a dozen years. KREM updated theirs a few months ago, but it doesn't look much different. So here's another one... KXLY's sister station in Madison (WISC) has had its set for even longer it seems...the top screenshot is from 2003....the second from December. I would guess they got it when they started using News One...which would be 2001. Looks like they haven't done much to it in the past ~15 years other than get rid of the weird Jeopardy-looking things behind the desk and update/add monitors. I will say newsroom sets tend to age better than a set like WJZ has but still.... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15530-oldest-sets-still-in-use/#findComment-166349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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