Eat News 4745 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 But it is if you think of it in this way... Jonathan and Michelle beat Jim and Doreen? That's still hard to believe, no matter which way you see it. HH, 25-54,18-49, 2+, doesn't matter. WRC is the best at 6pm and for WJLA to actually win would surprise anyone in the industry. The world, and especially TV ratings, doesn't revolve around how you feel. WRC isn't invincible. Please don't be a dick... WSVN fan makes plenty of positive contributions in these groups, and If he wants to inject his thoughts or opinion that's just fine with 99.9% of the folks who are regulars here. The guy bust his ass to provide updated and accurate TV news listings for those interested. Please don't take cheap shots at him...I think you just may piss-off a whole bunch of people. There are many people here for many different reasons...you may not agree with them...you may think their interest are silly to you...but they are all here for different forms of enjoyment, and I kindly ask you ,and some others to respect that. Thanks for that consideration. Now everyone may return to eating some news. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cg41386 132 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Please don't be a dick... WSVN fan makes plenty of positive contributions in these groups, and If he wants to inject his thoughts or opinion that's just fine with 99.9% of the folks who are regulars here. The guy bust his ass to provide updated and accurate TV news listings for those interested. Please don't take cheap shots at him...I think you just may piss-off a whole bunch of people. There are many people here for many different reasons...you may not agree with them...you may think their interest are silly to you...but they are all here for different forms of enjoyment, and I kindly ask you ,and some others to respect that. Thanks for that consideration. Now everyone may return to eating some news. I'm not being a dick, and I have as much right to my opinion as he does. I don't care how much he contributes (which is a ton, and I really enjoy his blog). WPVI was allegedly beaten by WCAU in a demo at 11pm and I'm not raising a stink over it. It just seems something really silly to be upset over. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I'm not being a dick, and I have as much right to my opinion as he does. I don't care how much he contributes (which is a ton, and I really enjoy his blog). WPVI was allegedly beaten by WCAU in a demo at 11pm and I'm not raising a stink over it. It just seems something really silly to be upset over. I understand it's not your area of interest, and that's fine...your opinion is just a important as others. Please consider it a special favor for me...your little shark friend. Thanks Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cg41386 132 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I understand it's not your area of interest, and that's fine...your opinion is just a important as others. Please consider it a special favor for me...your little shark friend. Thanks Because I usually find you borderline hilarious, I'll try to be a little more mindful. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Because I usually find you borderline hilarious, I'll try to be a little more mindful. Thanks! Your rock...and I owe you one. Thanks again. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelicanGuy 117 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Tegnaitis is finally getting to WWL. I bet management is regretting moving the 7-9am news onto WUPL. Sad when the only solace is that it's beating GMA on WGNO. T H I S ! ! ! I still don't know what was WWL thinking when they done that. Must be a Tegna mandate. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 T H I S ! ! ! I still don't know what was WWL thinking when they done that. Must be a Tegna mandate. As I said before the change: Corporate Influence over Station Interest. Yeah, I don't think it was a station decision. This was the case of "do what the corporate master tell you to do", even if it isn't in the station's best interest. The suits obviously didn't care if the local morning show was the #1 in the market. As long as that station clear that national show on their air, that's what mattered to the suits at Tegna & CBS, not Channel 4. And that's a shame. Why mess with a formula that has worked so well for so many years? But my biggest gripe in all of this was that they had to air CBS This Morning on Channel 4 on the day of Mardi Gras (2/28), the city's biggest day of the year!!!, while 6 & 8 went local straight-through (from the AM shows to the parades; 6 has always pre-empted The Today Show on that day). Channel 4 was pre-empting everything else after 9am, why couldn't they move CTM on 54 for just one day?! That's uncalled for. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3951 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 As I said before the change: Corporate Influnece over Station Interest. Yeah, I don't think it was a station decision. This was the case of "do what the corporate master tell you to do", even if it isn't in the station's best interest. The suits obviously didn't care if the local morning show was the #1 in the market. As long as that station clear that national show on their air, that's what mattered to the suits at Tegna & CBS, not Channel 4. And that's a shame. Why mess with a formula that has worked so well for so many years? But my biggest gripe in all of this was that they had to air CBS This Morning on Channel 4 on the day of Mardi Gras (2/28), the city's biggest day of the year!!!, while 6 & 8 went local straight-through (from the AM shows to the parades; 6 has always pre-empted The Today Show on that day). Channel 4 was pre-empting everything else after 9am, why couldn't they move CTM on 54 for just one day?! That's uncalled for. Even beyond Tegna, it's a CBS thing that ticks off their affiliates to the point they either pull the plug and go elsewhere, or the affiliate sends them packing when they refuse to meet their demands. I could see WWL eventually ditching CBS and going independent or picking up another network, like WISH or WJXT. Doing so would allow WWL to restore one of their most defining programs and not having a network to force them to air a show that has RARELY EVER been a success. I know CBS has the best show in decades, but it's at the expense of a newscast that has dominated its timeslot for YEARS. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2415 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Even beyond Tegna, it's a CBS thing that ticks off their affiliates to the point they either pull the plug and go elsewhere, or the affiliate sends them packing when they refuse to meet their demands. I could see WWL eventually ditching CBS and going independent or picking up another network, like WISH or WJXT. Doing so would allow WWL to restore one of their most defining programs and not having a network to force them to air a show that has RARELY EVER been a success. I know CBS has the best show in decades, but it's at the expense of a newscast that has dominated its timeslot for YEARS. Imagine it becoming a CW affiliate or even taking the MyTV affiliation away from sister WUPL. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3304 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Even beyond Tegna, it's a CBS thing that ticks off their affiliates to the point they either pull the plug and go elsewhere, or the affiliate sends them packing when they refuse to meet their demands. I could see WWL eventually ditching CBS and going independent or picking up another network, like WISH or WJXT. Doing so would allow WWL to restore one of their most defining programs and not having a network to force them to air a show that has RARELY EVER been a success. I know CBS has the best show in decades, but it's at the expense of a newscast that has dominated its timeslot for YEARS. Yeah, If I was WWL's station manager, I would tell CBS to kick rocks, get bent, and find another station if I had to dump two hours of my most popular morning show that's been a city institution to air a low-rated national show. When KOTV got orders from CBS to air the full two hours of the Early Show, they compromised and started it one hour later at 8am. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 1002 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Yes, let's give CBS the big ol' FU and ditch the affiliation all because they won't let WWL air their AM newscast until 9am That morning newscast, no matter how popular, will NEVER manage to bring in the overall revenue the station makes as a CBS affiliate. The issue with the station is not CBS, it's with TEGNA. If people are complaining about the direction that Tegna is taking WWL, can you imagine what they would do if the station were an independent? Just picture them turning WWL into a WTSP on steroids. After all, an independent station allows Tegna for extra "creative" freedom. Pick your poison wisely... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking News 829 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Even beyond Tegna, it's a CBS thing that ticks off their affiliates to the point they either pull the plug and go elsewhere, or the affiliate sends them packing when they refuse to meet their demands. I could see WWL eventually ditching CBS and going independent or picking up another network, like WISH or WJXT. Doing so would allow WWL to restore one of their most defining programs and not having a network to force them to air a show that has RARELY EVER been a success. I know CBS has the best show in decades, but it's at the expense of a newscast that has dominated its timeslot for YEARS. As I said before the change: Corporate Influnece over Station Interest. Yeah, I don't think it was a station decision. This was the case of "do what the corporate master tell you to do", even if it isn't in the station's best interest. The suits obviously didn't care if the local morning show was the #1 in the market. As long as that station clear that national show on their air, that's what mattered to the suits at Tegna & CBS, not Channel 4. And that's a shame. Why mess with a formula that has worked so well for so many years? But my biggest gripe in all of this was that they had to air CBS This Morning on Channel 4 on the day of Mardi Gras (2/28), the city's biggest day of the year!!!, while 6 & 8 went local straight-through (from the AM shows to the parades; 6 has always pre-empted The Today Show on that day). Channel 4 was pre-empting everything else after 9am, why couldn't they move CTM on 54 for just one day?! That's uncalled for. My question will be who more pissed that CBS' low rated morning show not being aired on WWL TEGNA or CBS? If TEGNA pissed than are they upset with WFMY exta hour at 7am & CTM at 8am-10am? Does CBS complain about WFMY? CBS has known for years that many of their affiliates pre-empt their morning news i.e. (when CBS was on WJBK, WAGA, WJW), and when CBS gave the affiliates the 7am hour in the late 90s... Both are in the wrong here. CBS has known that WWL morning news commanded the highest ratings in the morning, and no morning local news program had those type of ratings that WWL had. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Not only that, CBSTM was at least getting cleared in a 7-9am timeslot on WUPL. Honestly, it's a small price to pay with WWL staying with CBS instead of being another Tegna guinea pig as an independent or a CW affiliate. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 KTVU is claiming #1 (25/54) at 10 & 11pm during the May Books. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 KTVU is claiming #1 (25/54) at 10 & 11pm during the May Books. Not even the ultra liberal bay area cares that KTVU is owned by FOX. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4374 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Not even the ultra liberal bay area cares that KTVU is owned by FOX. To their credit, Fox didn't totally bastardize KTVU like many probably thought would happen. Inverting the old saying, "Fox, not Cox." Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3304 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 KTVU is the Fox O&O with some Cox flavor. Fox didn't influence their editorial decisions. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 KTVU is the Fox O&O with some Cox flavor.... . I think the bay area is already used to the taste of Cox.... (too easy) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frog 429 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 I think the bay area is already used to the taste of Cox.... (too easy) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenShine9 1513 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 To their credit, Fox didn't totally bastardize KTVU like many probably thought would happen. Inverting the old saying, "Fox, not Cox." Also Fox O&O's don't normally have the same political motivations that FNC has. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Also Fox O&O's don't normally have the same political motivations that FNC has. It's the bay area..........extra dots......... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Salter JR 66 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Even beyond Tegna, it's a CBS thing that ticks off their affiliates to the point they either pull the plug and go elsewhere, or the affiliate sends them packing when they refuse to meet their demands. I could see WWL eventually ditching CBS and going independent or picking up another network, like WISH or WJXT. Doing so would allow WWL to restore one of their most defining programs and not having a network to force them to air a show that has RARELY EVER been a success. I know CBS has the best show in decades, but it's at the expense of a newscast that has dominated its timeslot for YEARS. why didn't WWL jump to fox in the mid 90s when they had a chance? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneManHerd 553 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 I think the bay area is already used to the taste of Cox.... (too easy) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnya2k6 171 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Better late than never, but here's May's for Atlanta, and...just read them for yourself. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-176990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbnews 344 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Geez. WSB has CRAZY high ratings. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15723-may-2017-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-177011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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