Retransmission Consent squabbles

[tyrannical bastard 3933]

12 hours ago, mrschimpf said:

It's a Christmas Eve miracle . Nexstar and Dish have come to terms, and WGN America will be added to Sling TV in the near future.

Every time a bell rings,

A station gets put back on Dish TV!

[Newsjunkie24 506]

13 hours ago, mrschimpf said:

It's a Christmas Eve miracle . Nexstar and Dish have come to terms, and WGN America will be added to Sling TV in the near future.

 

I'm surprised too. I expected this to last for a few months considering how much Nexstar was asking for.

[tyrannical bastard 3933]

Props to them negotiating all the way to Christmas Eve.

[JCB4TV 347]

Charlie Ergen must have been visited by those 4 Christmas Ghosts!

[CubsFan79 58]

23 minutes ago, tyrannical bastard said:

Props to them negotiating all the way to Christmas Eve.

“ Reunited and it feels so good”.

[Nelson R. 569]

Apparently Capitol Broadcasting and Dish Network are now in a dispute. Dish subscribers in Raleigh/Durham have now lost WRAL AND WRAZ right after they just got WNCN back just over a week ago. Now they’ll need an antenna for Fox AND NBC football if they don’t come to an agreement by Sunday.
 

 

Edited December 29, 2020 by Nelson R.

[Kenneth Kissel 280]

Hearst Television and Verizon FIOS will be in a dispute in the beginning of the year. The Hearst channels at issue include WBAL Baltimore (NBC), WGAL Harrisburg (NBC), WTAE Pittsburgh (ABC), WCVB Boston (ABC) and WMUR Manchester, N.H. (ABC). https://www.nexttv.com/news/verizon-warns-viewers-hearst-signals-could-come-down

 

Verizon also warned Gray Television Richmond Virginia Locals WWBT (NBC) and WUPV (CW) based on Gray's actions with other companies.

 

Edited December 30, 2020 by Kenneth Kissel

[mvcg66b3r 100]

5 minutes ago, CLETVFan said:

Has WOIO in Cleveland moved from RF10 to RF18?

 

 I think that's their translator in Akron. Their main signal is still on 10. And you're at the wrong thread anyway.

[JCB4TV 347]

Here we go again:

 

DirecTV and AT&T TV Could Lose Cox-Owned Locals Next Week

 

Although the article lists the legacy Cox stations, it also appears that the former NWB stations could be yanked as well. As you remember, NWB was in a prolonged fight with AT&T in 2019 just before the Cox merger.

[Kenneth Kissel 280]

On 1/29/2021 at 3:53 PM, JCB4TV said:

Here we go again:

 

DirecTV and AT&T TV Could Lose Cox-Owned Locals Next Week

 

Although the article lists the legacy Cox stations, it also appears that the former NWB stations could be yanked as well. As you remember, NWB was in a prolonged fight with AT&T in 2019 just before the Cox merger.

I wonder if CBS will force COX to try to get this fixed before the Super Bowl. If not, I wonder IF CW O&O KSTW (owned by CBS) could air the game instead of KIRO in Seattle. I could see CBS doing that. 

[Weeters 1915]

5 hours ago, Kenneth Kissel said:

I wonder IF CW O&O KSTW (owned by CBS) could air the game instead of KIRO in Seattle.

That would be a violation of their affiliation agreement with KIRO. 

[Georgie56 3293]

6 hours ago, Kenneth Kissel said:

I wonder if CBS will force COX to try to get this fixed before the Super Bowl. If not, I wonder IF CW O&O KSTW (owned by CBS) could air the game instead of KIRO in Seattle. I could see CBS doing that. 

 

1 hour ago, Weeters said:

That would be a violation of their affiliation agreement with KIRO. 

 

The best they could do in the short-term is come to a one-day truce for the Super Bowl like DirecTV and Sunbeam in 2012.

[JCB4TV 347]

7 hours ago, Georgie56 said:

 

 

The best they could do in the short-term is come to a one-day truce for the Super Bowl like DirecTV and Sunbeam in 2012.

That truce could only apply to KIRO, WHIO, KYMA, KVIQ, and WXVT

[tyrannical bastard 3933]

That would wipe out the entire market in Greenville/Greenwood, MS since Cox legally owns all 3 stations (WABG with ABC and FOX, WXVT-LD with CBS and WNBD-LD with NBC)

Edited February 1, 2021 by tyrannical bastard

[Kenneth Kissel 280]

Also To note, WPXI in Pittsburgh is airing News Content on Sinclair Station WPGH at night and Now in the Morning in promos for "The National Desk"(as well as streaming newscasts on WPXI Now and NewsOn) so the argument Cox is using that people are losing critical COVID-19 and other News information is redundant and needs to be said by Directv. This is nothing more then a cash grab by Cox Media Group. I could use this as a bargaining chip in court If I was DIRECTV and mention To CBS/Sinclair to move the SB to KSTW for Seattle and put Cincy station WKRC 12 in Dayton so both areas still see the game.

[ScottJ 134]

All of these carriage disputes are money grabs by the stations and/or providers. All these companies care about are their bottom lines. Nobody is moving the Super Bowl off of any CBS affiliates, which would violate affiliation agreements. Even if it didn't, there's no need to. The dispute involves one provider, Cox's CBS affiliates are still available OTA (to those who receive the signal) and other providers. It'll also be available to stream for free online. And if someone misses the game because DirecTV is their only option to receive their local Cox-owned CBS affiliate, it won't be the end of the world. I'm sure this wouldn't be the first time people missed the Super Bowl because of a dispute and it probably won't be the last. Those people will live despite not watching the game.

[Kenneth Kissel 280]

50 minutes ago, ScottJ said:

All of these carriage disputes are money grabs by the stations and/or providers. All these companies care about are their bottom lines. Nobody is moving the Super Bowl off of any CBS affiliates, which would violate affiliation agreements. Even if it didn't, there's no need to. The dispute involves one provider, Cox's CBS affiliates are still available OTA (to those who receive the signal) and other providers. It'll also be available to stream for free online. And if someone misses the game because DirecTV is their only option to receive their local Cox-owned CBS affiliate, it won't be the end of the world. I'm sure this wouldn't be the first time people missed the Super Bowl because of a dispute and it probably won't be the last. Those people will live despite not watching the game.

Good point but do you see what is happening? The more these companies get greedy, the more people leave and the more money these companies lose. The FCC has to step in at some point and do something. If they don't, it will be the end of TV as we know it.

[memnews 36]

On 1/31/2021 at 6:38 PM, tyrannical bastard said:

That would wipe out the entire market in Greenville/Greenwood, MS since Cox legally owns all 3 stations (WABG with ABC and FOX, WXVT-LD with CBS and WNBD-LD with NBC)

 

This was already the case with Suddenlink cable for the past three weeks. The stations were pulled January 8 and only returned four days ago.

[JCB4TV 347]

2 hours ago, memnews said:

 

This was already the case with Suddenlink cable for the past three weeks. The stations were pulled January 8 and only returned four days ago.

What's going on with Cox, they need to hire a new negotiator.

[tyrannical bastard 3933]

4 hours ago, memnews said:

 

This was already the case with Suddenlink cable for the past three weeks. The stations were pulled January 8 and only returned four days ago.

Definitely the dark side of having ONE company controlling all of the major affiliations in the same market.  It seems like if it were the case, then at least ONE of them should be must-carry and carry a basic load of newscasts (since most are likely simulcasted anyways.)

[ScottJ 134]

9 hours ago, tyrannical bastard said:

Definitely the dark side of having ONE company controlling all of the major affiliations in the same market.  It seems like if it were the case, then at least ONE of them should be must-carry and carry a basic load of newscasts (since most are likely simulcasted anyways.)

Which would take away most of the owner's leverage in negotiations, which is why it won't happen short of the FCC regulating such a thing in markets where one company has a monopoly on the major affiliates.

[Kenneth Kissel 280]

3 hours ago, ScottJ said:

Which would take away most of the owner's leverage in negotiations, which is why it won't happen short of the FCC regulating such a thing in markets where one company has a monopoly on the major affiliates.

 I don't want the FCC to force the Cox stations to take an unfair deal. What needs to happen is the FCC and the NAB needs to allow Directv, Dish, Xfinity, Spectrum and others to pipe in a nearby station from a market next to the one where the station is dropped. So, in Pittsburgh's case. You have the option to choose WTOV, WJAC, WFMJ, or WBOY as an alternative till COX and Directv agree on a deal. In 2010, Directv replaced most NBC Hearst stations with Nexstar's WBRE for example.

 

I think the main alternates should be the NYC locals (East Coast [most are O&Os of said network]) and LA Locals (West Coast).

 

For those worried this wont work, Here is why it will. In most cases it would be the market next to theirs which would be semi local. All of the stations mentioned above do carry News, weather and Sports from certain places in the Pittsburgh market already  so it would be an extension of that. It doesn't work in some areas but in most it would work fine. I do see some viewers going to other stations but most are watching for the network programming anyway. Not news.

Edited February 3, 2021 by Kenneth Kissel

[Newsjunkie24 506]

1 hour ago, Kenneth Kissel said:

 I don't want the FCC to force the Cox stations to take an unfair deal. What needs to happen is the FCC and the NAB needs to allow Directv, Dish, Xfinity, Spectrum and others to pipe in a nearby station from a market next to the one where the station is dropped. So, in Pittsburgh's case. You have the option to choose WTOV, WJAC, WFMJ, or WBOY as an alternative till COX and Directv agree on a deal. In 2010, Directv replaced most NBC Hearst stations with Nexstar's WBRE for example.

 

I think the main alternates should be the NYC locals (East Coast [most are O&Os of said network]) and LA Locals (West Coast).

 

For those worried this wont work, Here is why it will. In most cases it would be the market next to theirs which would be semi local. All of the stations mentioned above do carry News, weather and Sports from certain places in the Pittsburgh market already  so it would be an extension of that. It doesn't work in some areas but in most it would work fine. I do see some viewers going to other stations but most are watching for the network programming anyway. Not news.

 

Do that and that might end these disputes or make them shorter once and for all.

[Nelson R. 569]

3 hours ago, Kenneth Kissel said:

 I don't want the FCC to force the Cox stations to take an unfair deal. What needs to happen is the FCC and the NAB needs to allow Directv, Dish, Xfinity, Spectrum and others to pipe in a nearby station from a market next to the one where the station is dropped. So, in Pittsburgh's case. You have the option to choose WTOV, WJAC, WFMJ, or WBOY as an alternative till COX and Directv agree on a deal. In 2010, Directv replaced most NBC Hearst stations with Nexstar's WBRE for example.

 

I think the main alternates should be the NYC locals (East Coast [most are O&Os of said network]) and LA Locals (West Coast).

 

For those worried this wont work, Here is why it will. In most cases it would be the market next to theirs which would be semi local. All of the stations mentioned above do carry News, weather and Sports from certain places in the Pittsburgh market already  so it would be an extension of that. It doesn't work in some areas but in most it would work fine. I do see some viewers going to other stations but most are watching for the network programming anyway. Not news.

If they piped in WLOS here, we’d temporarily have two chances to see Wheel or Jeopardy here. 

Edited February 3, 2021 by Nelson R.

[Kenneth Kissel 280]

9 minutes ago, Nelson R. said:

If they piped in WLOS here, we’d temporarily have two chances to see Wheel or Jeopardy here. 

Actually it would only be 1 chance due to WSOC being off. When the dispute Ends, it would only be WSOC you would see.