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[Joey1986 30]

For some weird reason, KNBC has the time on their 11:00 PM news on Saturday night, but not the rest of the week. I’ve never understood why.

[kdex86 66]

The time bug inconsistency saga on NBC 10 Boston continues...

It's absent from Mon-Fri 11 PM newscasts but on Saturday and Sunday nights, it is visible.  What gives?

 

 

[Dave Lampstein 287]

No one told the weekend PM director.

[Bars-n-tone 51]

The missing time at 11PM makes for an easy, modification-free repeat in the middle of the night. The nights you see a time/temp, that show probably doesn't air again.

[mre29 1967]

On 7/10/2025 at 6:29 PM, Bars-n-tone said:

The missing time at 11PM makes for an easy, modification-free repeat in the middle of the night. The nights you see a time/temp, that show probably doesn't air again.

 

That fits. A number of NBC O&Os and affiliates seem to repeat their late news after Late Night with Seth Meyers, followed by repeats of that day's Nightly News.

 

[kdex86 66]

On 7/10/2025 at 6:29 PM, Bars-n-tone said:

The missing time at 11PM makes for an easy, modification-free repeat in the middle of the night. The nights you see a time/temp, that show probably doesn't air again.

 

It still doesn't explain why the time bug is there on Sat. and Sun. nights.

[NBC 5 Chicago 215]

4 hours ago, kdex86 said:

 

It still doesn't explain why the time bug is there on Sat. and Sun. nights.

 

Because they're not rebroadcasting that newscast?

[kdex86 66]

On 7/21/2025 at 1:08 PM, NBC 5 Chicago said:

 

Because they're not rebroadcasting that newscast?

 

Any reason why rebroadcasts at say, 2 AM are on a Tues-Sat morning cycle, skipping Sun and Mon mornings?

[EricTheEnthusiast 42]

I guess that begs the bigger question, any reason why the Today show is 4 hours M-F and not Sa-Su? Why The Tonight Show skips Saturday and Sunday? Why local stations do more newscasts M-F and not Sa-Su?

 

I mean this isn't hard ... local NBC's repeat their 11pm news on the M-F schedule (which runs into early Saturday am) and they don't repeat it on the Sa-Sun schedule (which runs into early Monday am). Lots of reasons why - one that comes to mind is the late news is most likely to be delayed or adjusted because of sports overruns on Saturdays and Sundays so why force editing or adjusting on a weekend when you're running an even more bare-bones staff?

[alaskanews 159]

I'm impressed this insane conversation has sustained itself for weeks now. Really great job everyone.

[Weeters 2173]

Removing the time/temp just because the news gets rebroadcast would be extremely silly, this has never been an issue in the decades this practice has been happening.

 

The consultants told them to get rid of the time. They made the change to the weekday newscast template, and forgot to change the weekend. Nobody who asked for the change is probably paying attention to the weekend news that closely. Maybe they have noticed, and don't care. 

I know it's 2025, and everything has to be treated as some grand conspiracy, but sometimes we have to apply Occam's Razor.

[ABC 7 Denver 1889]

On 7/24/2025 at 12:30 PM, alaskanews said:

I'm impressed this insane conversation has sustained itself for weeks now. Really great job everyone.

 

I'll second. We're seeing massive attrition of qualified journalists and an industry bowing to fascistic autocrats, but we want to continue to debate time/temp bugs. People, we have a significant editorial independence crisis on our hands! What the actual f*ck?!

[Bars-n-tone 51]

On 7/26/2025 at 7:08 PM, Weeters said:

Removing the time/temp just because the news gets rebroadcast would be extremely silly, this has never been an issue in the decades this practice has been happening.

 

KYW used to cover the time/temp above the bug on the 11PM repeat. Not so silly.

[mre29 1967]

5 hours ago, Bars-n-tone said:

KYW used to cover the time/temp above the bug on the 11PM repeat. Not so silly.

 

I imagine it wouldn't be all that hard to set things up in such a way that the time/temp bug is the last thing added -- after the point in the video chain where the recording is made.

 

[Bars-n-tone 51]

Every newscast that I’ve done that used a temp/temp bug, it was inserted in the control room.

[Dave Lampstein 287]

Half of mine were control room, half were inserted by master control. 
 

Fun fact: Hearst has/had a heavily modded version of Vizrt. They developed the original diagrid package that when the first lower third in a block would trigger from the control room, it would auto-trigger the bug in master control. (If I remember that correctly). 
 

Some CBS stations back in the day ran their newscast bugs out of LIDIA which was usually kept in master.