Ntropolis 600 Posted August 29, 2009 Posted August 29, 2009 Moving this from the Shoutbox to the forum... and so I can keep the link handy to update the HD news list: http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/2009-2010-dma-ranks.pdf Biggest movers: Waco/Bryan, TX +5 to 89 Bend, OR +3 to 189 Biggest loser: Wichita Falls, TX -4 to 149 Everybody else either didn't move at all, or changed 1 or 2 spots.
NewsProducer 0 Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 I find Denver's move from 18 to 16 interesting.
detroiter313 181 Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 Looks like Detroit is still the #11th ranked media market.
susquvalleywgal 524 Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 I'm happy with the 2 spot increase in the Harrisburg-Lebanon-Lancaster-York PA market, from 41 to 39. However, NONE of the area TV stations, for news, are in HD yet. I find that quite disappointing. -- Matt
FirstNews8 13 Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 have the DMA county outlines been released?
newsguy22 59 Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 I always found it interesting that Nielsen does not count military members who live on a post or base in a given DMA as part of that DMA. I know that would give a huge boost to some markets, like Norfolk, VA and Columbus, GA just to name a couple.
FirstNews8 13 Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 I would like to see the DMA ratings from like 10 years ago... or more..anyone know where I could go to get that?
seriouslythough 0 Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 Wow, Miami moves down? Comes as a surprise to me.
NewsProducer 0 Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 I always found it interesting that Nielsen does not count military members who live on a post or base in a given DMA as part of that DMA. I know that would give a huge boost to some markets, like Norfolk, VA and Columbus, GA just to name a couple. I didn't realize that. Including military instillations would have a huge impact in Colorado Springs-Pueblo as well.
A3N 1002 Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 San Diego is a huge military town, if all the men and women would be counted in, then it would move up the market up a few notches since we have Miramar/Camp Pendleton/North Island. At the very least though, we're stuck in market 28.
sctvhound 27 Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 Charleston has gone up to the 97th market, pretty good, over some markets like El Paso and the Quad Cities. In the late 1990s, Charleston was all the way down at 120, but one year, they jumped like 16 spots suddenly, and then they dropped a couple. Syracuse in the mid 1990s was the 69th market, and back in the late 1980s, West Palm was only like the 52nd market (now 38).
WXmanTim 88 Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 You will continue to see sunbelt markets grow, especially popular retirement areas and areas where manufacturing jobs move, at the expense of north and northeastern markets. At some point in the early 80s, Cleveland was still a top-10 market as was Detroit. The only northern markets that will not see much in the way of fluctuations are the megalopolis markets (NY, Philly, Boston, DC) and Chicago as the population density is to firmly entrenched. I would say the top-10 is pretty much set for the forseeable future.
tw-804 194 Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Richmond/Petersburg's (Virginia) still #58.
PelicanGuy 117 Posted September 4, 2009 Posted September 4, 2009 I guess that New Orleans will be back in the top 50 come 2010-11(this list: No. 51).
SFTV 541 Posted September 4, 2009 Posted September 4, 2009 San Diego is a huge military town' date=' if all the men and women would be counted in, then it would move up the market up a few notches since we have Miramar/Camp Pendleton/North Island. At the very least though, we're stuck in market 28.[/quote'] i still remember when we were Market 26. radio still hasnt changed. i believe were market 17 in radio
jero23 105 Posted September 4, 2009 Posted September 4, 2009 I'm surprised and glad to see that Birmingham-Tuscaloosa-Anniston remaining at #40 and hopefully it can increase up #39.
jero23 105 Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Another interesting tidbit that makes NBC-Universal look very stupid when it came to the picking and choosing of the "lower market stations" to sale back 2006. Apparently, Raleigh-Durham-Fayetteville is now ranked higher than San Diego and Hartford, so WNCN should have been kept and they should have sold WVIT instead for sure. I always knew Raleigh-Durham-Fayetteville is a rapidly growing market that would eventually surpass even San Diego (which is just San Diego County) and Hartford DMAs. They didn't calculate that about the market rankings.
mre29 1589 Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Well, I guess that explains why ABC still owns WTVD.
Ntropolis 600 Posted September 17, 2009 Author Posted September 17, 2009 WRAL is a powerhouse, and WTVD is a strong second. WVIT and KNSD are probably more profitable than WNCN.
A3N 1002 Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 WRAL is a powerhouse, and WTVD is a strong second. WVIT and KNSD are probably more profitable than WNCN. True, KNSD is pretty cheaply run and they rake in the most profit every year despite all the cutbacks. Which is probably the reason why NBC hasn't sold the station.
jero23 105 Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 WRAL is a powerhouse, and WTVD is a strong second. WVIT and KNSD are probably more profitable than WNCN. True, but I doubt WVIT is more profitable than WNCN because like "NBC Connecticut" hasn't exactly been the #1 station in Hartford in years either.
Ntropolis 600 Posted September 19, 2009 Author Posted September 19, 2009 True, but I doubt WVIT is more profitable than WNCN because like "NBC Connecticut" hasn't exactly been the #1 station in Hartford in years either. Keep in mind that WVIT signed on in 1953 and has been an NBC affiliate since it's inception, while WNCN was an independent station until 1995. It's kinda like WNCN is RDU's WGCL.
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