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...and that was a couple of decades ago. Irrelevant. Well viewership is a losing battle that they'll never win. It's a streaming world whether you like it or not, the networks need adapt so they don't get left behind. Well those Fox affiliates would have to figure something else or actually start a news division or "news central" it with their ownership group.

Did you also criticize David Muir when he wasn’t there the last time ABC used the old “World News” name and theme?

Main anchors not showing up for the final newscast of a graphics package being part of the downfall of a long-running network evening news program is certainly a new one.

One would be naive to think that station owners aren’t already greedy. Why do you think stations have news at 3pm now? Also, you’re focused on ratings when the driving factor (for the local affiliates, at least) is ad revenue. As many have pointed out many times now, local ad revenue is just as important to stations as ratings. I’m not saying that news expansion is a good thing from a creative/journalistic point of view (I hate it as much as the next person), but it makes sense from a business standpoint. And why the heck would NBC care what Fox thinks? Is there a rule that prevents NBC from upsetting Fox? If NBC can take away viewers from Fox stations at 10pm, all the more reason to do it.

A lot of people barely watch anything but 10pm evergreen content such as the L&Overse and Blue Bloods. The timeslot has been dying since it became the 'DVR catch-up' slot, and it's nothing now with streaming. Most nights it's just filled with Dateline episodes and obviously the Big Ten Saturday night slot and SNF aren't included by contractual force Funny that they're doing this now when WHDH had the right idea thirteen years ago to try to dump it for news.

I thought they learned their lesson with "The Jay Leno Show"?

It’s a Friday in Late August; Norah like David Muir is on…… you guessed it Vacation.

Heavy emphasis on arrows throughout the newscast, as well as more infographic changes (including the font being switched to TT Norms)

It’s a bit ironic that NBC is the first traditional “Big Three” network that is rumored to want to do this. Ed Ansin must be smiling from the Great Beyond and thinking, “I told you so.” This move would make sense for both sides. The networks see streaming as their most important commodity, while the affiliates view local news in the same regard due to the ad revenue. The networks can focus on their OTT platforms, while the local affiliates can focus on pumping out more local content.

Does that really matter?

This worked so well last time. Worse, many 10 pm shows are top rated shows. Chicago Wednesdays and Law & Order Thursdays would become half days? Bad idea.

Well, I don't. NBC does this, it's going to lose viewership and ratings at the 10pm/9pm slot.

And they're about to blow their chance. Their ratings could indeed improve... for one day. The staffers have every reason to complain and more. Remember how Cuomo was fired by CNN in December 2021 for everything he did (favoritism, sexual misconduct allegations, etc.)? No one wanted to touch that man with a ten-foot pole after this. No one but NewsNation execs, of course. Apparently, they've forgotten what "sexual misconduct" means, which is why they've been allowing Bill O'Reilly, who was fired by Fox News in 2017 for allegations of his own, to enter talks to join NewsNation as well. Yes, they're trying to get more viewers and more money, but the staffers believe Cuomo is the wrong person for that kind of job. Imagine the volume of complaints when Bill O'Reilly gets picked up! Every line in the sand has to be drawn at some point, and hiring someone who was accused of sexual misconduct to work for a news channel crosses it.

I don’t think there’s an affiliate in America that wouldn’t approve of this. I’m sure they’d all love to have an hour-long 10.

The cost-cutting is inevitable. If NBC drops an hour, everyone else will too. I doubt the scenario of shifting the late-night line-up 30-60 minutes is realistic.

No, actually the first year of Judge Judy aired at 12:30 on WTAE-TV after the noon news.

Since tonight and late night are both taped they should have an 11pm and 11:35 feed and let the stations choose. On CBS y&r has the 11am (12et) and 12:30pm feeds.

An article from a tabloid site owned by the same geniuses that ran the National Enquirer? Can you find one from a slightly more reputable source?

CBSEN will fail forever opposite the other two, they really should move the newscast earlier to 5:30 or even 4:30. They should also consider adopting a more tabloid "Inside Edition" format in contrast to the other traditional newscast. If it bleeds, it leads. Worked wonders on the local level with Miami's WSVN. If all that fails just make it a 10-15 minute insert that can be placed into the local news blocks whenever and call it a day.

No way will SNL move up an hour but I don't see why the tonight show wouldn't, and get a 35 minute jump on cbs and abc.

Totally, but I'm guessing they're trying to attract more subscribers for Disney. ABC has been on the same track with the lack of creativity; they recently had a spin-off for The Goldbergs that only lasted 2 seasons, they are about the launch one for The Rookie this fall and they are branching out with The Good Doctor with a backdoor pilot this coming season.

This is what happens when there is no innovation or creativity, you become a distant memory. This is the network that built Must See TV, now they are crumbling and shifting their efforts to Peacock. Currently, NBC has 6 hours of Dick Wolf, they air The Voice twice a year, and they have no comedy hits. The kids have gone to streaming or You-Tubing, leaving only the oldies watching broadcasting/cable. It's obvious that the next generation of viewers no longer sees broadcasting television as relevant. They're not the only ones doing lazy programming, ABC will be airing 4 hours of Bachelor in Paradise this fall and CBS has always relied on cookie-cutter acronym procedurals for the last couple decades.

On one hand it would be nice to have a pretty universal alternative to the FOX station doing news at 10/9. On the other hand, it may be a blow to the FOX stations that have been doing this since the beginning of time, and cause quite a problem when the NBC station is the one that is doing the FOX newscast, places like Pittsburgh and Raleigh.

ER was the number 1 show in the country three different years for NBC in that 10 PM slot with 30 million viewers a night

Hopefully they fix this before it goes to air

New CBS Evening News graphics will debut on Monday, August 29. The look will be in line with the new CBS deconstructed eye look that has been rolling out.

FOR THE RECORD... 'World News' returned to 'World News Tonight' BETWEEN permanent anchors. Sawyer retired from 'World News' on a Friday, the weekend shows maintained status quo, it had a generic 'World News Tonight' open on Labor Day Monday, and he debuted on Tuesday, with his name on the program. Anyway...

I think most affiliates would prefer to do an hour at 9/10 and keep the 35-minute show at 10/11. Several Fox stations already do this. (In fact, WAGA goes from 10 to midnight.) If someone is watching ABC or CBS prime and prefers the late news on the NBC station they’d have to make a tough choice. Same goes for if they watch local news on the CBS or ABC station and then like to switch over to Fallon. Another tough choice. Also, re: the list above … KABB and WOAI may be a duopoly but KABB produces its own 9p news with its own anchor team on its own set. The two already compete against each other in the mornings so this wouldn’t be anything new.

I read in a recent article that KVVU and KTNV are fighting it out for the top dog in the market. Whoever doesn't get it ends up a strong second. KLAS is third and KSNV is just in a dog pile stinking fourth.

David Muir has much better ratings then CBS so no.

If that isn't the biggest blunder in NewsNation's nearly two-year history, I don't know what is.

What do you mean? She has to be there the last day the graphics are in use?

Thing is, why would NBC and their stations care? If anything, they would want to take away from Fox’s prime time news audience. Besides, there’s no guarantee of it being a blow to every Fox station either (see: KTVU, WTVT, KDFW), and more local news competition can’t be too much of a bad thing, even if it is just a sign of less creativity in the TV business. This lack of creativity isn’t anything new either. I remember when NBC programmed Deal or No Deal 5 nights a week. They practically squeezed the life out of that show with how often it was on. Same could be said for Millionaire in the early-2000s. I wish TV hadn’t gone through such a creative slump over the past 2 decades, but a lot of that creativity has moved over to Amazon, Netflix, and Disney+. Peacock is way behind the game when it comes to streaming (if you want proof, look at some of the movies they have on there). NBC needs to do what it can to make it more lucrative. Besides, the local stations would prefer local news over yet another Dick Wolf series or Dateline rerun. What “decision” do they have to make? Just simulcast the damn thing. The stations would be more than grateful for the extra ad revenue.

WXII for CW WCWG (Greensboro) (Hearst)

They could’ve kept Dancing With the Stars on linear…

Leno was just an attempt to cheap out while keeping the timeslot. This sounds more like a scorched earth strategy, and one that's a million times more attractive to the affiliates.

(deadpan) Oh, wow. How surprising. I bet this has to be the talk of the town too... https://radaronline.com/p/newsnation-staff-angry-chris-cuomo-boycott/ Deadpan time over... I think this speaks for itself when even NewsNation's own staffers basically tell the higher-ups at the failing network they flubbed big time in hiring Cuomo.

David Oliver is returning to WIBW-TV to be the evening co-anchor, replacing the retiring Ralph Hipp. He's been out of the business for a while, but previously worked at WIBW-TV in the 1990s.

Notice sent to affiliates via newspath earlier today.

For the station, the beauty of having local news instead of syndicated programs is the ability to control the costs and avoid being at the mercy of a syndicator who will raise the price of the show if it's a hit. But I also wonder if this news thing is getting out of hand when I see a station like WSMV running nothing but news (local and NBC) and local lifestyle shows from 4 AM-7 PM nonstop.

Just a polite reminder, we don't need to have a whole slew of posts documenting when Hudson's, or anyone's show is airing, anywhere. That's what the show's site is for.

Going to WNWO to where Ellen is now at 4, just as I predicted.

I'm not in the business, just a viewer, but I'm beginning to think this is getting to be a kind of "Waiting for Godot" scene. The Samuel Beckett play when two poor bums spend days sitting there expecting somebody named Godot any time. No luck. This guy and that guy pass down the road. "Was that him? Maybe that might have been him." they ask each other. Nope. Nothing. But for all this I wouldn't expect anything until either the beginning of the TV season in September, or even in late October when the traditional "sweep" begins, if that is even a thing in major markets now.

And it's shocking that Y&R is still #1 because any current viewer of the show knows that nothing happens: the writing is stale, uneventful, and dry comapred to the other dramas on the air. But the soap has retained alot of veteran actors and hasn't fully sent their older cast to the backburner which may have helped them keep the #1 spot.

Pete has to be one of the oldest employees still working for NBC News, so I'm not surprised about his retirement. I wonder who might replace him? Best of luck to him.

We are getting to a point where the local news bubble will burst and stations will be going off the air or sold to other groups. Many people aren't watching local news and it shows in many markets. Just to add a newscast for ad revenue is ,and will always be, wrong. That is one of the reasons why groups like the GOP (which I can't stand in its own right) want nothing to do with media these days is because the Station Owner CEOs are only in it for the conflict and money. It hurts journalism integrity/viewership even more when you see statements like this from Sinclair CEO Chris Ripley. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/5/19/2098963/-Sinclair-Broadcast-Group-CEO-says-a-politically-divided-America-is-very-good-for-our-business

Dan Abrams 25-54 demo ratings fall below 1000 viewers. NewsNation ratings aren't growing, they are continuing to fall.

Just saw a promo that the old judge Judy show is moving from WPXI to WPGH 53 in the fall.