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Yea, how much times will they have to mess up their TV stations before the FCC catches the idea? I mean, ending news departments, making KTUL and KOKH's newscast basically almost the same thing. Yet 'PIX is the problem? The Federal Communications Commission, they JUST DELETED LOCAL NEWS at WNWO in Toledo and STILL did nothing about KDNL, is you not understanding what's going on?

Everything looks great and thanks for keeping the faith and going the extra length to keep the forum going. There isn't anything like it elsewhere.

Hello everyone! Been a while since I posted about this but I am here to share our latest episode with you from our school newscast. Before Spring Break, it was our first year anniversary so we celebrated that with a new graphics package which you can see here (which debuted before break) and a new music package that debuted with this episode. All feedback is welcome as always!

Here's a link to a Facebook post she made today: https://fb.watch/rIaZ4QpAKm/

...all while you have an anchor from "Greensboro" on WXLV bragging on how their news comes from San Antonio! How many other half-news departments are there? WPMI essentially simulcasts WEAR on the weekends. Both stations are worse off now that WEAR has to water down there coverage to cover Mobile as well.

If TNT loses the NBA this is the biggest loss of the entire process Turner being with the NBA for 40 years Inside the NBA ends it will be the biggest mistake in the history of the league

Two big departures from Alabama's 33/40 Stephen Quinn has left the station after the past 8 years, spending the last 2 1/2 years as a lead anchor. https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2024/04/abc-3340-anchor-stephen-quinn-announces-final-newscast-at-birmingham-tv-station.html And now, longtime anchor Pam Huff has announced her retirement... https://www.abc3340.com/news/local/pam-huff-announces-retirement-abc-3340-news-birmingham-veteran-anchor-big-announcement-james-spann-breast-cancer-survivor Protect James Spann at all costs!

Scripps is looking to sell Bounce TV.

Even in the 1980s there was minimal difference between the two brands. Look at Bill Bonds at WXYZ with Action News, and it was basically all centered around Bill Bonds and his on-air presence. Ditto with Irv Weinstein at WKBW; they used the EWN name but it wasn't anywhere close to the Al Primo EWN. The brands were never uniformly applied and mean different things to different people. @HulkieD has brought up how CapCities slowly (even if unintentionally) morphed WABC into... if not a Xerox of WPVI, then obviously a station with WPVI's Action News in its' blood. It still used the EWN name, but it wasn't the EWN pre-1986. WOIO's usage of Action News is mostly associated with the "last-place, last-chance news" uber-populist format that Bill Applegate---the same person who presided over WABC's late-80s changes---put in, almost out of desperation by Raycom, having admitted to overpaying for WOIO/WUAB when they bought out Malrite. It is a tainted brand in the market. EWN means nothing in Cleveland and hasn't meant anything since WEWS gave it up in 1990, and even then, NewsChannel 5 meant nothing when they gave it up a few years ago, aside from people likely confusing WEWS with WPTV on social media. If WOIO used EWN, it would feel tacked on and meaningless. (Yes, channel 3, then KYW-TV, originated EWN from 1959 to 1965 but it predated Al Primo or even Westinghouse's full treatment of the brand. Because of the passage of time, few are alive to actually remember when it debuted in Cleveland.) It actually says a lot that none of the stations in Cleveland have a so-called "brand" for their newscasts: 3 News, News 5, Fox 8 News and 19 News. But does it matter? I'm from Cleveland and I can tell the four news operations apart fairly easily.

Missing the point. "Action News" and "Eyewitness News" are extremely dated brands, and are more or less cliché at this point. It's nearly 2023, it's time to find new ways of branding local news outside of two 60's era news formats. The formats themselves are barely even used anymore. I sure don't notice any difference between an "Action" or "Eyewitness" newscast and... every other newscast out there.

I am not trying to be snarky in asking this, but what makes a station logo “unchangeable”? And why should we hold a television station to unrealistic standards when practically every other business in existence either refreshes or redesigns their logos or branding every X years? Stations logos and network logos are meant to be changed and to adapt with the times. NBC and ABC did what they did for practical and functional reasons. CBS **finally** adopted a design standard among the network and O&Os for the same reason. WKYC debuted their current logo—which is above and beyond the garbled mess that their prior logo became—for the same reason. Change can hold promise and potential. When WOIO rebranded as “19 News” in 2019, then-GM Erik Schrader said, "we have to stand out. Action News was an effective brand for its time, but time moved on and we had to move on, too. And tastes will change. As much as I like this brand (19 News), it probably will eventually change."

I am bumping this thread, because I want to mention something I came across. WVLT-TV in Knoxville, back in 2001, used what may be a knock-off of the Hearst-Argyle station graphics package. You can view the WVLT open at 37:09.

Is WDTV pining to be an ABC affiliate? It's still better than the WEWS logo.

WPVI knockoff on SNL from 2019:

I just noticed this account is Blaine Stewart from WTKR! You worked at one of the most legendary stations with a roster of legendary talent. I'd say it was a popular graphics package back then. I know WDAY Fargo/WDAZ Grand Forks had something like this too.

I hope I'm posting this to the correct thread. I just realized WWL (New Orleans) and WFTV (Orlando) used similar elements for their opens in the late 1990s. Here are the two opens back to back. You'll notice the scrolling "news leader" ticker and the background of the end screen (blue with muted very small "Eyewitness News" text) are very similar/identcal. Wondering if anyone here has some insight into where these elements might come from. Part of a syndicated package maybe? Those are the only graphic similarities during that era. Lower 3rds and OTS graphics are different. I worked at WWL during this era and know that station did a ton of GFX work in-house back then, so maybe these were just elements they picked up elsewhere to add to the look? A ripoff? Eh, probably not. What do y'all think/know?

WEAR in 1991 — looks like someone watched WPLG at some point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id=G9JZ1ozbivo;t=1419 Finally realized this one...

As a resident of Ada, Oklahoma, KTEN's city of license, I watch the ABC sub channel for "Jeopardy!" they'll be some general station ID's with the ABC 10 logo, and others with the ABC Texoma logo that were from 2010 when the channel originally launched. There is a Facebook page for ABC 10, where only the ABC 10 logo displays with no mention of the ABC Texoma logo. Personally, I have been hoping that Lockwood will eventually sell KTEN & KAKE to a better owner. I'll take Sinclair or Nexstar at this point.