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...and that was a couple of decades ago. Irrelevant. Well viewership is a losing battle that they'll never win. It's a streaming world whether you like it or not, the networks need adapt so they don't get left behind. Well those Fox affiliates would have to figure something else or actually start a news division or "news central" it with their ownership group.

Did you also criticize David Muir when he wasn’t there the last time ABC used the old “World News” name and theme?

Main anchors not showing up for the final newscast of a graphics package being part of the downfall of a long-running network evening news program is certainly a new one.

One would be naive to think that station owners aren’t already greedy. Why do you think stations have news at 3pm now? Also, you’re focused on ratings when the driving factor (for the local affiliates, at least) is ad revenue. As many have pointed out many times now, local ad revenue is just as important to stations as ratings. I’m not saying that news expansion is a good thing from a creative/journalistic point of view (I hate it as much as the next person), but it makes sense from a business standpoint. And why the heck would NBC care what Fox thinks? Is there a rule that prevents NBC from upsetting Fox? If NBC can take away viewers from Fox stations at 10pm, all the more reason to do it.

A lot of people barely watch anything but 10pm evergreen content such as the L&Overse and Blue Bloods. The timeslot has been dying since it became the 'DVR catch-up' slot, and it's nothing now with streaming. Most nights it's just filled with Dateline episodes and obviously the Big Ten Saturday night slot and SNF aren't included by contractual force Funny that they're doing this now when WHDH had the right idea thirteen years ago to try to dump it for news.

I thought they learned their lesson with "The Jay Leno Show"?

It’s a Friday in Late August; Norah like David Muir is on…… you guessed it Vacation.

Heavy emphasis on arrows throughout the newscast, as well as more infographic changes (including the font being switched to TT Norms)

It’s a bit ironic that NBC is the first traditional “Big Three” network that is rumored to want to do this. Ed Ansin must be smiling from the Great Beyond and thinking, “I told you so.” This move would make sense for both sides. The networks see streaming as their most important commodity, while the affiliates view local news in the same regard due to the ad revenue. The networks can focus on their OTT platforms, while the local affiliates can focus on pumping out more local content.

Does that really matter?

This worked so well last time. Worse, many 10 pm shows are top rated shows. Chicago Wednesdays and Law & Order Thursdays would become half days? Bad idea.

Well, I don't. NBC does this, it's going to lose viewership and ratings at the 10pm/9pm slot.

And they're about to blow their chance. Their ratings could indeed improve... for one day. The staffers have every reason to complain and more. Remember how Cuomo was fired by CNN in December 2021 for everything he did (favoritism, sexual misconduct allegations, etc.)? No one wanted to touch that man with a ten-foot pole after this. No one but NewsNation execs, of course. Apparently, they've forgotten what "sexual misconduct" means, which is why they've been allowing Bill O'Reilly, who was fired by Fox News in 2017 for allegations of his own, to enter talks to join NewsNation as well. Yes, they're trying to get more viewers and more money, but the staffers believe Cuomo is the wrong person for that kind of job. Imagine the volume of complaints when Bill O'Reilly gets picked up! Every line in the sand has to be drawn at some point, and hiring someone who was accused of sexual misconduct to work for a news channel crosses it.

I don’t think there’s an affiliate in America that wouldn’t approve of this. I’m sure they’d all love to have an hour-long 10.

The cost-cutting is inevitable. If NBC drops an hour, everyone else will too. I doubt the scenario of shifting the late-night line-up 30-60 minutes is realistic.

No, actually the first year of Judge Judy aired at 12:30 on WTAE-TV after the noon news.

Since tonight and late night are both taped they should have an 11pm and 11:35 feed and let the stations choose. On CBS y&r has the 11am (12et) and 12:30pm feeds.

An article from a tabloid site owned by the same geniuses that ran the National Enquirer? Can you find one from a slightly more reputable source?

CBSEN will fail forever opposite the other two, they really should move the newscast earlier to 5:30 or even 4:30. They should also consider adopting a more tabloid "Inside Edition" format in contrast to the other traditional newscast. If it bleeds, it leads. Worked wonders on the local level with Miami's WSVN. If all that fails just make it a 10-15 minute insert that can be placed into the local news blocks whenever and call it a day.

No way will SNL move up an hour but I don't see why the tonight show wouldn't, and get a 35 minute jump on cbs and abc.

Totally, but I'm guessing they're trying to attract more subscribers for Disney. ABC has been on the same track with the lack of creativity; they recently had a spin-off for The Goldbergs that only lasted 2 seasons, they are about the launch one for The Rookie this fall and they are branching out with The Good Doctor with a backdoor pilot this coming season.

This is what happens when there is no innovation or creativity, you become a distant memory. This is the network that built Must See TV, now they are crumbling and shifting their efforts to Peacock. Currently, NBC has 6 hours of Dick Wolf, they air The Voice twice a year, and they have no comedy hits. The kids have gone to streaming or You-Tubing, leaving only the oldies watching broadcasting/cable. It's obvious that the next generation of viewers no longer sees broadcasting television as relevant. They're not the only ones doing lazy programming, ABC will be airing 4 hours of Bachelor in Paradise this fall and CBS has always relied on cookie-cutter acronym procedurals for the last couple decades.

On one hand it would be nice to have a pretty universal alternative to the FOX station doing news at 10/9. On the other hand, it may be a blow to the FOX stations that have been doing this since the beginning of time, and cause quite a problem when the NBC station is the one that is doing the FOX newscast, places like Pittsburgh and Raleigh.

ER was the number 1 show in the country three different years for NBC in that 10 PM slot with 30 million viewers a night

More than just the scorebug... the entire show is basically NBC Sunday Night Football on Thursday on Prime. Which is a really good thing for both football fans and the NFL—it uplevels the entire Thursday night game package into something that you'd want to watch week after week, instead of being an afterthought like it was in the Fox/NFL Network eras. The matchups were always crap in those days, and the production matched in quality. I'm sure the Fred Gaudelli/Al Michaels combo has a lot to do with the increase in overall quality, but also I thought Kirk Herbstreit was really great in his first true NFL role. Al makes it look easy, but he and Kirk already had great booth chemistry from the opening minutes of their first game. New music is awesome, too. The matchups still might stink, but at least the TV will be great.

Impressed by this 'beta test' of Prime's coverage; one of the things they wanted to impress involved streaming syncing and lag in live streaming, and running the game on my Apple TV, another smart TV in another room, and iPad did bear that out; there was no stuttering or sync issue and the video/audio did not vary/fall behind on any of them. I don't know how this will bear out with the local syndicated/DirecTV feed, but there, a success. And happy with the graphics too; they're not intending to reinvent the wheel with metaverses and AR (yet)...just broadcast a standard NFL game. A good B+ all around, though I do hope they merge in the English/Spanish feeds into one channel by their first game; they did it before with the Fox share and now...they don't?

They hired SNF's producer, and he clearly took the old NBC scorebug's aesthetic with him.

Hopefully they fix this before it goes to air

New CBS Evening News graphics will debut on Monday, August 29. The look will be in line with the new CBS deconstructed eye look that has been rolling out.

FOR THE RECORD... 'World News' returned to 'World News Tonight' BETWEEN permanent anchors. Sawyer retired from 'World News' on a Friday, the weekend shows maintained status quo, it had a generic 'World News Tonight' open on Labor Day Monday, and he debuted on Tuesday, with his name on the program. Anyway...

Ive never seen a story like this. Tonight it just took a weird-er turn https://twitter.com/CBCNews/status/1563345202567593989

I think most affiliates would prefer to do an hour at 9/10 and keep the 35-minute show at 10/11. Several Fox stations already do this. (In fact, WAGA goes from 10 to midnight.) If someone is watching ABC or CBS prime and prefers the late news on the NBC station they’d have to make a tough choice. Same goes for if they watch local news on the CBS or ABC station and then like to switch over to Fallon. Another tough choice. Also, re: the list above … KABB and WOAI may be a duopoly but KABB produces its own 9p news with its own anchor team on its own set. The two already compete against each other in the mornings so this wouldn’t be anything new.

I read in a recent article that KVVU and KTNV are fighting it out for the top dog in the market. Whoever doesn't get it ends up a strong second. KLAS is third and KSNV is just in a dog pile stinking fourth.

If that isn't the biggest blunder in NewsNation's nearly two-year history, I don't know what is.

Carolina Panthers, again: The third time any parts of the graphics have changed throughout the same preseason. This time, the text in the down and distance marker is larger.

What do you mean? She has to be there the last day the graphics are in use?

A cleaner, more sleek look

Thing is, why would NBC and their stations care? If anything, they would want to take away from Fox’s prime time news audience. Besides, there’s no guarantee of it being a blow to every Fox station either (see: KTVU, WTVT, KDFW), and more local news competition can’t be too much of a bad thing, even if it is just a sign of less creativity in the TV business. This lack of creativity isn’t anything new either. I remember when NBC programmed Deal or No Deal 5 nights a week. They practically squeezed the life out of that show with how often it was on. Same could be said for Millionaire in the early-2000s. I wish TV hadn’t gone through such a creative slump over the past 2 decades, but a lot of that creativity has moved over to Amazon, Netflix, and Disney+. Peacock is way behind the game when it comes to streaming (if you want proof, look at some of the movies they have on there). NBC needs to do what it can to make it more lucrative. Besides, the local stations would prefer local news over yet another Dick Wolf series or Dateline rerun. What “decision” do they have to make? Just simulcast the damn thing. The stations would be more than grateful for the extra ad revenue.

100%. I'm sure Bristol isn't too worried about things since MNF will still be a ratings juggernaut, but gotta wonder how they're going to compete in the overall production department with this. I'll stream TNF for Al Michaels... Joe Buck, not so much.

To be fair, the matchups don’t stink as much as they used to. Ravens v. Bucs, Titans v. Packers, and Bills v. Patriots are pretty good gets for Thursday Night Football. Even in weeks where the teams aren’t as strong, hopefully they’ll at least be more competitive than last night’s preseason game. But yes, you can thank Fred Gaudelli for the excellent production quality. IMO, last night’s game was produced better than any football game I’ve seen on Fox or ESPN in recent years. And that game was just a preseason blowout. Also, the entire game is available to replay on Prime Video. I’m not sure how long games will be available for, but that feature gives Prime an edge right off the bat. Come to think of it, I wonder if we should start an “NFL on Prime” thread?

David Oliver is returning to WIBW-TV to be the evening co-anchor, replacing the retiring Ralph Hipp. He's been out of the business for a while, but previously worked at WIBW-TV in the 1990s.

As many quotes in the article make clear, they aren’t dancing on TikTok to bring in ratings, they’re doing it so they can have a life and so people can see they have a personality outside of being a stone-faced reporter. Any ratings increases are side effects more than anything. One’s personal hobbies shouldn’t center around increasing your company’s revenue, they should be something that you’re passionate about and makes you happy. If that’s dancing on the internet, great. Sure, there are some types of posts that are unethical, like taking selfies at an active crime scene or shilling a product. But just because something doesn’t explicitly advance your company’s bottom line, doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t do it. Do traditional community outreach events, like toy drives or hosting picnics or volunteering, really bring in huge ratings? If ratings are the only barometer we’re supposed to look at, then all of those would be failures and they should stop them, right? But they don’t because those events have a different purpose, just like there’s a different purpose for them dancing on TikTok.

Going to WNWO to where Ellen is now at 4, just as I predicted.

I think the real problem facing KDKA the talent exodus it’s suffered over the last few years. The few times I had KD on, it’s looked like an intern’s demo tape.

https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/ is up

I'm not in the business, just a viewer, but I'm beginning to think this is getting to be a kind of "Waiting for Godot" scene. The Samuel Beckett play when two poor bums spend days sitting there expecting somebody named Godot any time. No luck. This guy and that guy pass down the road. "Was that him? Maybe that might have been him." they ask each other. Nope. Nothing. But for all this I wouldn't expect anything until either the beginning of the TV season in September, or even in late October when the traditional "sweep" begins, if that is even a thing in major markets now.

Even more people think this is actually a cover story so she can spend more time watching the CW.... (sorry. )

Pete has to be one of the oldest employees still working for NBC News, so I'm not surprised about his retirement. I wonder who might replace him? Best of luck to him.