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Ok I’ll bite... what about in Oklahoma? Does the demographic shift peter out as you move north in Texas to the point that it’s not much of a factor once you cross state lines?

Here’s WXYZ’s new 11pm teaser graphics... the cities scroll at the bottom. There’s a cityscape “next on 7 action news at 11” graphic that comes before this, I’ll try to grab a shot of it. Maybe this is the direction Scripps will go later this year?

The KABC ones have better animations and transitions... I think much of that is due to the small time nature of the company that made them. It's like using a small budget effects company instead of Industrial Light and Magic.. You're gonna get lesser results. I think the WABC package could be better if somebody like Renderon or one of the other major graphics companies had made it... Linear Drifts other big brag is the CBS O&O look but they just don't have much else major... WOIO maybe?

Actually the WABC ones look more complete... the KABC lower thirds are weird looking... they are just kind of floating there disconnected and it looks odd...

It’s Texas... why wouldn’t the Latino population be growing? I don’t quite get why DFW would be a surprise?

Who said anybody didn’t do good for the community? I’m simply saying the comparison is a little shady and ham-fisted and is bent to make their results look better. You think the folks in a PR department have Walter Kronkite level honesty or something? All It demonstrates is that the demos are shifting... that’s not an accomplishment by anybody... it’s a byproduct of a change in viewer composition... then it gets played off as if they 100% worked for it against all of the other stations and that nothing changed external to their efforts... As for being in a language I don’t understand and being discriminatory or whatever you are trying to accuse me of that has nothing to do with it. Don’t bring that kind of crap into the discussion. I’m not here for that kind of “you’re a racist” garbage. You don’t like my criticism that’s fine and we can talk about it. Don’t you dare try to win an argument by putting words in my mouth.

Or none of the explanations or comparisons bandied about here has any basis in reality. You guys are treating apples and avocados as a fair comparison thus letting some idiot in Spanish language marketing pull a fast one on you... this topic repeatedly gets serious attention around here as if it’s really an oh wow truth for god knows what reason... One audience (English only) doesn’t have a choice and another does (bi-lingual) and still another can only speak Spanish... regardless of language is a terrible statistic to bandy about and it makes the Spanish language stations look better than they are. The English language stations are at a significant disadvantage in this game. Many of the bi-lingual have English as a second language... if I started off with Spanish and learned broken English and had a choice I would go with what I knew the best and could completely comprehend... so many of these folks are joining the bandwagon out of necessity. What good does this stat do for someone who only speaks English? I could watch Telemundo I guess... a majority are evidently... but I’d be watching people appear to me to be uncontrollably babbling... what good is a measurement of success that has a limited reach? It’s similar to what WABC does with “most watched in America”... by households sure but in the market with the most households... not a hard feat for whoever is number one. However by share it could be a station in Fargo that could claim it or in Fairbanks... one could make a compelling argument that share is a more important number... Three kinds of lies...

Any relation to FOX real or imagined is coincidence... carry on...

My broader point wasn’t really about you (though originally I misunderstood you to be in that crowd and that’s why it was written that way, actually clearly you are not) rather it was wondering about all those neat people who come out from cracks in the walls when someone says the “F-word”... then they retreat until it is said again... their silly shock never ceases to amaze me...

You don’t seriously believe this sort of thing is only said by your local mechanic do you? Why people are shocked and outraged by this stuff is beyond me...

So... “Ah the next newscast is starting... better tune out because they are introducing people”? That’s some odd reasoning... People are far more likely to keep watching if they want more news or tune out if they don’t... 20 seconds of talent open won’t make or break you or everybody would do what you are describing...

So much happens there that you might as well call it that...

If said veteran talent is willing to take a pay cut (I know at least one guy was willing to work for $1 per year but to no avail) they should be allowed to continue until they are ready to go.

So you lose one or two and keep thousands... those are numbers anybody can live with...

So you are suggesting somebody might say “That rat bastard! Spending his Friday in Florida instead of on the morning news! I’m switching to GDNY!!!!!!!”? Said person would have a rather tenuous connection to the program if that swayed them away from it... they might envy the idea of being in Florida but c’mon... and as to your point about lineups changing... if it happens every week then they’ll get used to that arrangement and go “oh.. no Sam... it must be Friday already” and that will be about all it’ll rate....

Or to the majority of viewers too old to notice or care... well... they don’t notice or care as long as they know the weather... where he is on his days off is extremely inside baseball don’t you think?

Sarcasm is not your strong suit apparently...

Huh... I’m used to folks sticking around till about 2am if there’s a chance of something interesting then handing it off to the morning person and going home... same crowd that breaks in for Severe Thunderstorm warnings on the other hand so maybe overkill is the policy... also different market so YMMV...

Nobody bothers staying over when this kind of weather is forecast?

Dignity where? Endless repeats of forensic files?

Ah so not really an editorial director... Was this an on-air position?

What is a community director?

That is by far the best color scheme on an ABC O&O package in that style...

So what this appears to be is simply renaming The NOW, using the regular news graphics during local news, filling most of the show with the usual national cut-ins (no graphics used) and then some nifty green-screen graphics customized for the station. So The NOW is alive but in another form that folks can identify with. Some of the new custom transitions look pretty nice actually but overall this is a letdown.

Smells like a Scripps corporate decision...