mardek1995 200 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 ESPN does not tape delay that often, they can use their platforms to deadicate to each different sport. NBC does the worse job, they are not really a sports network their biggest strength is news. That is why they focus so much on the storylines of the sport more then the sport itself. The best thing NBC has doing for them is the Olympics theme.Which btw, was created in 1984 when ABC aired that olympiad (and they used it until 1988). And like I said earlier, I'd still like to see the olympics on ABC, even if it takes until 2034 for it to happen. And btw, if NBC's biggest strength is news (NBC News being the most widely viewed national newscasts), why do they air NFL games (like the 2015 super bowl for example) and golf, among a few other sports? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-156818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danderson500 29 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 I've always like NBC's NFL coverage, with Michaels and Collinsworth. Those guys are awesome. Their NASCAR coverage is pretty good with Rick Allen, but the Olympic coverage i never really liked. ABC always seemed to do a better job with Jim McKay and Frank Gifford in the studio. Their venue announcers were always better than NBC's even in 88. But i thought until maybe 03 or 04, ABC's overall sports coverage was really good. College Football and MNF were the only good parts of that era though. Their golf coverage was a joke till they got Tirico, and Wide World went through a transition in the host chair with Gifford, then Julie Moran. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-156819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danderson500 29 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Might i make another point: ABC was always good at presenting the Olympics better than NBC. Maybe they didn't edit as much as NBC, but they presented the event a little different than NBC. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-156820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePulse 318 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Fox, on the other hand, I'm now considering one of the stronger contenders. Let's observe. Fox. FX, FXX. Fox News and Business. The National Geographic cluster. The Fox Sports cluster (FS1, FS2, and the regional networks). There are some drawbacks. I would highly doubt that a movie channel would air Olympic sport. Also, they don't have a Spanish outlet. Unless you count Nat Geo Mundo. But the biggest issue they have is that albatross they have around their neck that is Fox News Channel. If, God forbid, they really want to try to be everything NBC isn't, they gotta clean up that crapshow. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-156823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3307 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Fox, on the other hand, I'm now considering one of the stronger contenders. Let's observe. Fox. FX, FXX. Fox News and Business. The National Geographic cluster. The Fox Sports cluster (FS1, FS2, and the regional networks). There are some drawbacks. I would highly doubt that a movie channel would air Olympic sport. Also, they don't have a Spanish outlet. Unless you count Nat Geo Mundo. But the biggest issue they have is that albatross they have around their neck that is Fox News Channel. If, God forbid, they really want to try to be everything NBC isn't, they gotta clean up that crapshow. Fox has MundoMax, which they run as a joint venture with RCN Television. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-156829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper550 291 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 No, Fox doesn't run MundoMax anymore. That's why it was renamed (it used to be MundoFox) Fox does have a Spanish sports network, Fox Deportes, but they could probably use either SAP or sub-license it to, say, Univision. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-156830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNewsie 50 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Fox, on the other hand, I'm now considering one of the stronger contenders. Let's observe. Fox. FX, FXX. Fox News and Business. The National Geographic cluster. The Fox Sports cluster (FS1, FS2, and the regional networks). There are some drawbacks. I would highly doubt that a movie channel would air Olympic sport. Also, they don't have a Spanish outlet. Unless you count Nat Geo Mundo. But the biggest issue they have is that albatross they have around their neck that is Fox News Channel. If, God forbid, they really want to try to be everything NBC isn't, they gotta clean up that crapshow. Might I add Turner with TNT, TBS, TruTV, CNN, HLN, and possibly the CW and more... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-156832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardek1995 200 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Might i make another point: ABC was always good at presenting the Olympics better than NBC. Maybe they didn't edit as much as NBC, but they presented the event a little different than NBC.And that's why I'd like to see the olympics on ABC/ESPN, even if it means waiting until at least 2034 for it to happen (because NBC took a gamble by renewing their rights to be the network for the olympics, summer and winter, till 2032) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-156840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius22 122 Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Might I add Turner with TNT, TBS, TruTV, CNN, HLN, and possibly the CW and more... I like the Turner-CBS thing they do when they covered march madness. it should be CBS, All turner stations except TCM, CNN, HLN and CN. that way including CBS stations (doesn't have to be CBS O&Os) can use coverage in their news broadcasts similar to NBC's Olympic zone. CBS sports can have Julie Chen as one of the reporters. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-156871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestTV 1232 Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 I'll join the NBC hate fest. This happened just now. Tape-delayed (obviously) game of handball between Germany and Sweden. They go to break with Germany up 4. They come back and a few seconds later the game is tied. What the hell happened to those 4 goals Sweden had and why were they edited out?! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-156890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePulse 318 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 There is one thing you gotta give NBCUniversal credit for - cross promotion. The NBC Sports Grill and Brew here at Universal Orlando set up a grandstand area across them giant Jumbotrons. There's no way they can't be making a killing off of them. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-156931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Might i make another point: ABC was always good at presenting the Olympics better than NBC. Maybe they didn't edit as much as NBC, but they presented the event a little different than NBC. And that's why I'd like to see the olympics on ABC/ESPN, even if it means waiting until at least 2034 for it to happen (because NBC took a gamble by renewing their rights to be the network for the olympics, summer and winter, till 2032) Keep in mind that when ABC broadcast Olympics they only maxed out at 180 hours of coverage for Los Angeles in 1984 and the IOC likely didn't provide that much content back then. Granite I am biased based on my avatar. There is one thing you gotta give NBCUniversal credit for - cross promotion. The NBC Sports Grill and Brew here at Universal Orlando set up a grandstand area across them giant Jumbotrons. There's no way they can't be making a killing off of them. I wonder if the bar takes the network feed for the NBC portion of the video wall or a WESH simulcast or if they show the direct network feed. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-156959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Red 104 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Which btw, was created in 1984 when ABC aired that olympiad (and they used it until 1988). And like I said earlier, I'd still like to see the olympics on ABC, even if it takes until 2034 for it to happen. And btw, if NBC's biggest strength is news (NBC News being the most widely viewed national newscasts), why do they air NFL games (like the 2015 super bowl for example) and golf, among a few other sports? Each big network has to air sports it part of the contract and abiding by rules of being a broadcast network. Even though most people have cable or other ways of getting multiple channels. Broadcast networks still have the responsibility of airing the big events assuming that most people don't have access to cable. Another factor as well is that broadcasts air waves belong to the public. Networks generally share Superbowls . Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-156996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Each big network has to air sports it part of the contract and abiding by rules of being a broadcast network. I'm curious what is this contract and what are the rules? I don't think there is a requirement by the FCC mandating sports carriage on broadcast network rather it is an expectation. And what are these rules other than abiding by the general rules that the actual stations need to follow? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-156997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Red 104 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 I'm curious what is this contract and what are the rules? I don't think there is a requirement by the FCC mandating sports carriage on broadcast network rather it is an expectation. And what are these rules other than abiding by the general rules that the actual stations need to follow? That is above my realm cause I don't deal with contracts but sports is always a big attraction to most big networks sports always gurantees ratings and more advertisers. If you are thinking from a programmer standpoint then sports is always the best way to get an easy audience. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-157002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper550 291 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Elliotte Friedman (CBC) made a huge blunder during the 200m IM just now: he was calling the race under the impression that Michael Phelps was Ryan Lochte. It has to be heard to be believed. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-157257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.L. Hughes 890 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 In case anyone is not familiar with the rules, NBCUniversal's contract for the Olympics includes an unusually strict clause limiting the amount of event footage that local stations can carry (they are only allowed to air two minutes of Olympic event footage per program and must space out any additional airings of footage within their news programs to a three-hour gap between programs). WGN sports anchor Pat Tomasulo expressed the feelings of undoubtedly many in the television industry with a rant about these rules on the WGN Morning News Friday (August 12), presented in the way that program does best... with comedy. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-157308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestTV 1232 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 The bad press for NBC continues, and it's appalling how much NBC doesn't think it's justified. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2016/08/10/nbc-criticised-for-worst-ever-olympic-coverage-in-america/ Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-157317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardek1995 200 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 The bad press for NBC continues, and it's appalling how much NBC doesn't think it's justified. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2016/08/10/nbc-criticised-for-worst-ever-olympic-coverage-in-america/ Time magazine also focuses exclusively on US people rather than the rest of the world, which also sucks Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-157318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 In case anyone is not familiar with the rules, NBCUniversal's contract for the Olympics includes an unusually strict clause limiting the amount of event footage that local stations can carry (they are only allowed to air two minutes of Olympic event footage per program and must space out any additional airings of footage within their news programs to a three-hour gap between programs). WGN sports anchor Pat Tomasulo expressed the feelings of undoubtedly many in the television industry with a rant about these rules on the WGN Morning News Friday (August 12), presented in the way that program does best... with comedy. The contract is the same for other countries as well. It's a standard deal through the IOC that's worldwide. The bad press for NBC continues, and it's appalling how much NBC doesn't think it's justified. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2016/08/10/nbc-criticised-for-worst-ever-olympic-coverage-in-america/ I think one of the reasons why NBC focuses so much on the American athletes is because that's what the general public (non diehards) wants to see. They likely want to know how our athletes are doing and not much else. I'm going to generalize here but Americans think the world revolves around us (which it does to an extent) and most don't care about foreign affairs (that don't deal with the military). If Americans are somewhat ignorant to foreign affairs why would they care about another countries athletes? We also are a very patriotic nation which genuinely want to hear and focus on our own. As to the time shifting NBC only has to answer to the advertisers. The advertisers want a big audience for their spots and NBC gives it to them with the curated Primetime programming. I imagine most of the diehard fans who want to watch events live will catch them on cable or through Live Extra. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-157319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePulse 318 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Remember that cross promotion and those Jumbotrons? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-157372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardek1995 200 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 The contract is the same for other countries as well. It's a standard deal through the IOC that's worldwide. I think one of the reasons why NBC focuses so much on the American athletes is because that's what the general public (non diehards) wants to see. They likely want to know how our athletes are doing and not much else. I'm going to generalize here but Americans think the world revolves around us (which it does to an extent) and most don't care about foreign affairs (that don't deal with the military). If Americans are somewhat ignorant to foreign affairs why would they care about another countries athletes? We also are a very patriotic nation which genuinely want to hear and focus on our own. As to the time shifting NBC only has to answer to the advertisers. The advertisers want a big audience for their spots and NBC gives it to them with the curated Primetime programming. I imagine most of the diehard fans who want to watch events live will catch them on cable or through Live Extra. Time magazine has a similar problem as NBC does with focusing exclusively on american athletes rather than telling the stories of athetes of other nations as well (or any figure that matter). And NBC's chief marketing director made a sexist as to why the olympics are tape deleyed: www.sportingnews.com/athletics/news/rio-olympics-2016-nbc-schedule-ratings-demographics/t47ah6v41t0a12srewzuyl81k Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-157373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Time magazine also focuses exclusively on US people rather than the rest of the world, which also sucks Trust me, The rest of the world really does suck. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-157376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardek1995 200 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Trust me, The rest of the world really does suck. I didnt say the rest of the world sucks, I just said that it sucks that both NBC and Time magazine focus almost exclusively on us athletes, which as great as they are, the rest of the world's star athletes are left out of the spotlight. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-157383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I didnt say the rest of the world sucks, I just said that it sucks that both NBC and Time magazine focus almost exclusively on us athletes, whoch as great as they are, the rest of the world's star athletes are left out of the spotlight. Stars are much brighter then spotlights... (wall poster in Scripps HR office) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/12022-olympics-broadcasting-thread/page/7/#findComment-157385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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